It's really rather incredible. McCain only got the nomination through a combination of indies who remembered him from 2000, and what conservatives he was able to pull in with his pandering. But now he's just set himself up for a general election where he's pissed both his base and the middle off.

Non-news at its best. A few dozen denizens of the non-relevant corners of the internet don't like John McCain. Oh noes.

Oh, and just for fun, here's their "favorites" list:

20) John Thune (6)
16) Mark Sanford (7)
16) Mitch McConnell (7)
16) John Cornyn (7)
16) John McCain (7)
12) John Shadegg (8)
12) Jon Kyl (8)
12) Haley Barbour (8)
12) Tom Tancredo (8)
11) Dick Cheney (9)
9) Jeff Sessions (11)
9) Jeff Flake (11)
8) Mike Pence (12)
7) George W. Bush (13)
6) James Inhofe (14)
5) Sarah Palin (15)
4) Duncan Hunter (16)
3) Jim DeMint (18)
2) Tom Coburn (24)
1) Bobby Jindal (25)

I think it's a testament to the MSM and conservative media that McCain could even be in the running seeing as how 80% of us want change. 75% of us want out of Iraq. almost everyone thinks we're headed in the wrong direction. and here an old doddering flip flopper who makes more gaffes in a week than Obama has his entire career is treated as though he's the best thing since sliced bread by the MSM and Obama is harrassed daily over supposed and manufactured slights.

He's not liked by the extreme right. Just like the daily kos hates moderates.

Too bad that it doesn't matter if conservatives like him or not.

Almost none of them are going to vote for Obama, and the rest aren't going to sit back and not vote against Obama.

Come November, they'll hold their noses and vote McCain.

It's fun to pretend that the GOP is in absolutely terrible shape and all, but let's get real. The election is once again going to be extremely close.

Desterion:He's not liked by the extreme right. Just like the daily kos hates moderates.

In Europe, the daily kos would be considered moderate.

Get ready for the Romney surprise!

Meh, it's not as big of deal as it could be. Political blogs for the Republicans are less crucial to a candidate's success than they are for the left (in general).

Institutions like the Heritage Foundation, the National Review, the Wall Street Journal editorial page, and the American Enterprise Institute (among others) are far more important for a Republican Presidential candidate, and while many individuals at these places may have problems with McCain, the organizations they work for are mostly far too disciplined (compared to bloggers, at least) to go "off message" and attack McCain on their front pages or in their media appearances during the most crucial months of an election year.

And that's what it comes down to for the right-wing propaganda machine: discipline, discipline, discipline.

This should piss off any concerned libertarian to no end...

Churchill2004:McCain only got the nomination through a combination of indies who remembered him from 2000, and what conservatives he was able to pull in with his pandering. But now he's just set himself up for a general election where he's pissed both his base and the middle off.

Indeed.

And they picked Ron Paul as 14th, and we know how well he did. Yeah, these bloggers really have the pulse of their base.

residentgeek:Get ready for the Romney surprise!

This wouldn't surprise me in the least. I mean, Romney is disliked by the fundies because of his cult, but McCain isn't exactly their darling either. It wouldn't be too much of a stretch for McCain to be stricken with some convenient debilitating illness right before the convention now would it.

But McCain will (somehow with a Dem Senate) appoint Scalia clones, so they'll vote for him anyway. Dems fall in love, Republicans fall in line.

I'd say its fairly obvious why no one on the internet likes him. Its demographic is chocked full of young people just waking up to the career of a man who's been in politics for decades.
To other voters this is all old hat. His primary opponents failed to point out anything we didn't already know and accept as part of his baggage. He ran on his parties middle ground and won its consensus vote... strange how that happens.

Compare that record with one from a fresh faced senator who has lots of interesting ideas but little history for making them happen, and you've got a train wreck in November to look forward to.

/Bush's 25% plus 25% of people who don't want Obama = 50%

And a member of the infamous Keating 5!

/farking thief

Whatsleft:Desterion:He's not liked by the extreme right. Just like the daily kos hates moderates.

In Europe most of the world, the daily kos would be considered moderate.

ftfy

/when hrc is considered left of centre, your 'centre' is waaay to the right.

Cagey B:Non-news at its best. A few dozen denizens of the non-relevant corners of the internet don't like John McCain. Oh noes.

Oh, and just for fun, here's their "favorites" list:

20) John Thune (6)
16) Mark Sanford (7)
16) Mitch McConnell (7)
16) John Cornyn (7)
16) John McCain (7)
12) John Shadegg (8)
12) Jon Kyl (8)
12) Haley Barbour (8)
12) Tom Tancredo (8)
11) Dick Cheney (9)
9) Jeff Sessions (11)
9) Jeff Flake (11)
8) Mike Pence (12)
7) George W. Bush (13)
6) James Inhofe (14)
5) Sarah Palin (15)
4) Duncan Hunter (16)
3) Jim DeMint (18)
2) Tom Coburn (24)
1) Bobby Jindal (25)

If I was going to do a modernization of Dante's Inferno, most of that list would be making cameos.

Cagey B:Non-news at its best. A few dozen denizens of the non-relevant corners of the internet don't like John McCain. Oh noes.

Oh, and just for fun, here's their "favorites" list:

20) John Thune (6)
16) Mark Sanford (7)
16) Mitch McConnell (7)
16) John Cornyn (7)
16) John McCain (7)
12) John Shadegg (8)
12) Jon Kyl (8)
12) Haley Barbour (8)
12) Tom Tancredo (8)
11) Dick Cheney (9)
9) Jeff Sessions (11)
9) Jeff Flake (11)
8) Mike Pence (12)
7) George W. Bush (13)
6) James Inhofe (14)
5) Sarah Palin (15)
4) Duncan Hunter (16)
3) Jim DeMint (18)
2) Tom Coburn (24)
1) Bobby Jindal (25)

The fact that Bush is anywhere in the top 50 of "Most liked Republicans" proves that these people are farking morons. It has to. What other proof do you need?

Wow, George W. Bush is ranked #7!?

Compare that to how the average conservative feels about W, and you begin to see exactly what kinds of problems the American right faces.

And unfortunately, he's more qualified and would make a make a far, far better president for the United States than the empty vessel into which the dems have poured all their hopes, dreams, unicorns and pixie dust.

And now you're finding out that his slogan isn't "hope," it's "nope, I didn't mean any of that shiat I told you to get you into bed last night."

They are part of the nation of whiners.

Now, I'm not saying right wing bloggers are retarded or anything, but Jeff Gannon was asked to participate in their "pole" numbers.

DrillSergeantPoopyPants:And unfortunately, he's more qualified and would make a make a far, far better president for the United States than the empty vessel into which the dems have poured all their hopes, dreams, unicorns and pixie dust.

And now you're finding out that his slogan isn't "hope," it's "nope, I didn't mean any of that shiat I told you to get you into bed last night."

I'm going to be laughing when 8 years down the road everyone's saying "Remember how shiatTY it was 8 years ago, before Obama became president? You want to throw away a thing this good by letting a Republican take control of the White House?!"

/Better off, 4 years ago, you know. That old chestnut.

way south:I'd say its fairly obvious why no one on the internet likes him. Its demographic is chocked full of young people just waking up to the career of a man who's been in politics for decades.
To other voters this is all old hat. His primary opponents failed to point out anything we didn't already know and accept as part of his baggage. He ran on his parties middle ground and won its consensus vote... strange how that happens.

Compare that record with one from a fresh faced senator who has lots of interesting ideas but little history for making them happen, and you've got a train wreck in November to look forward to.

/Bush's 25% plus 25% of people who don't want Obama = 50%

They're the same 25%. 25% +0% = 25%

way south:
/Bush's 25% plus 25% of people who don't want Obama = 50%

If you happen to have 50 Pontiac Firebirds, and 25 of those are Trans Am's, you don't have 75 Pontiacs. You have 50 still.

Really?
Maybe he won't be so bad after all.

Third Day Mark:DrillSergeantPoopyPants:And unfortunately, he's more qualified and would make a make a far, far better president for the United States than the empty vessel into which the dems have poured all their hopes, dreams, unicorns and pixie dust.

And now you're finding out that his slogan isn't "hope," it's "nope, I didn't mean any of that shiat I told you to get you into bed last night."

I'm going to be laughing when 8 years down the road everyone's saying "Remember how shiatTY it was 8 years ago, before Obama became president? You want to throw away a thing this good by letting a Republican take control of the White House?!"

/Better off, 4 years ago, you know. That old chestnut.

Because god knows that swayed people in 2000. The electorate are morons, they'll even buy that "empty suit" Rovian garbage (Obama has put out FAR more details than McCain has).

RemyDuron:Third Day Mark:DrillSergeantPoopyPants:And unfortunately, he's more qualified and would make a make a far, far better president for the United States than the empty vessel into which the dems have poured all their hopes, dreams, unicorns and pixie dust.

And now you're finding out that his slogan isn't "hope," it's "nope, I didn't mean any of that shiat I told you to get you into bed last night."

I'm going to be laughing when 8 years down the road everyone's saying "Remember how shiatTY it was 8 years ago, before Obama became president? You want to throw away a thing this good by letting a Republican take control of the White House?!"

/Better off, 4 years ago, you know. That old chestnut.

Because god knows that swayed people in 2000. The electorate are morons, they'll even buy that "empty suit" Rovian garbage (Obama has put out FAR more details than McCain has).

We had a good thing with Clinton. Party president, first black president, etc. We wanted another guy like that who we could relate to. Al Gore is the guy who wanders around the party going "You're really drinking that? Have you read the ingredients to it?" Dubya was doing Keg Stands.

You're right, they're idiots. But I think we've seen "Whoa. Hold on. We can't have a guy who's just great at parties."

What is this obsession the right has with Bobby Jindal lately?

sigdiamond2000:What is this obsession the right has with Bobby Jindal lately?

They think he's their Obama. Seriously.

It's kinda funny.

sigdiamond2000:What is this obsession the right has with Bobby Jindal lately?

He's not white. They plan on using that as a sword and a shield.

Tor_Eckman:residentgeek:Get ready for the Romney surprise!

This wouldn't surprise me in the least. I mean, Romney is disliked by the fundies because of his cult, but McCain isn't exactly their darling either. It wouldn't be too much of a stretch for McCain to be stricken with some convenient debilitating illness right before the convention now would it.

I'll be honest, I don't think Romney's religion would be a huge detriment at all. Durring the Primaries it was the Tv Media and Major Newspapers making a big deal out of it; the Blogs mainly made fun of them for it iirc.
I'm sure at this point even the Fundies would be happy to see a little bit more 'Conservative' in the Republican Ticket.

OK: Quick informal poll--

How many McCain bumper stickers would you say you have seen? (rough estimate).

How many Obama?

For me, it is 1:1,000, at least.

I have, to this day, seen only a single McCain bumper sticker. And not a single lawn sign or other indicator that a particular individual supports the man.

Why is this even a story? The base does not trust or like McCain. However, they will vote for him. They have no choice.

CanisNoir:I'm sure at this point even the Fundies would be happy to see a little bit more 'Conservative' in the Republican Ticket.

And since Romney has been conservative since at least the beginning of this year's primaries, he does give them something to hang their hat on.

DrillSeargant: And unfortunately, he's more qualified and would make a make a far, far better president for the United States than the empty vessel into which the dems have poured all their hopes, dreams, unicorns and pixie dust.

And now you're finding out that his slogan isn't "hope," it's "nope, I didn't mean any of that shiat I told you to get you into bed last night."

Yeeeah....I'm gonna go with the "empty suit" over the one that's full of shiat.

Skleenar:OK: Quick informal poll--

How many McCain bumper stickers would you say you have seen? (rough estimate).

How many Obama?

For me, it is 1:1,000, at least.

I have, to this day, seen only a single McCain bumper sticker. And not a single lawn sign or other indicator that a particular individual supports the man.

Well if that isn't scientific I don't know what is. Am I still going to have to keep chasing you around fark?

Hang On Voltaire:Why is this even a story? The base does not trust or like McCain. However, they will vote for him. They have no choice.

/Laugh and wipes tear from his eye.

Hang On Voltaire:Well if that isn't scientific I don't know what is. Am I still going to have to keep chasing you around fark?

Geez. I thought the "informal" part of it was a pretty good indicator of the "scientificiness" of my proposed poll.

What has got your panties in a bundle?

Hang On Voltaire:Why is this even a story? The base does not trust or like McCain. However, they will vote for him. They have no choice.

Because they're nice little robots that do as they're told. You sure nailed it HOV

sigdiamond2000:What is this obsession the right has with Bobby Jindal lately?

He is the GOP rock star

Wigwam For a Goose's Bridle:Whatsleft:Desterion:He's not liked by the extreme right. Just like the daily kos hates moderates.

In Europe most of the world, the daily kos would be considered moderate.

ftfy

/when hrc is considered left of centre, your 'centre' is waaay to the right.

Nations by GDP
US: 13,843,825
Japan: 4,383,762
Germany: 3,322,147
China: 3,250,827

Link (new window)

I guess there's a reason where the richest country in the world. Oh and numbers 2 and 3 are the results of US nation building. Guess we have a better record in that department than most think as well.

/just sayin

Skleenar:
Geez. I thought the "informal" part of it was a pretty good indicator of the "scientificiness" of my proposed poll.

What has got your panties in a bundle?

When I saw your "bumper sticker" post I checked your profile to see where you live blue state/red state thing you know and I noticed what is at the bottom of your profile and then I remembered. You are the one who keeps posting that thread saying it is proof that I lied and every time I respond "where did I lie" you never answer. So am I going to have to keep asking you?

I think the Republicans are willing to admit McCain has flaws. Mention Obama does around his sheep and you better run.

PlasticMoby:
Because they're nice little robots that do as they're told. You sure nailed it HOV

As opposed to the democrat base which is seriously weighing between voting for McCain and voting for Obama.....right?

Nemo's Brother:I think the Republicans are willing to admit McCain has flaws. Mention Obama does around his sheep and you better run.

QFT

Nemo's Brother:I think the Republicans are willing to admit McCain has flaws.

Was it them desperately trying to sink his campaign prior to the nomination that tipped you off?

CanisNoir:Nations by GDP
US: 13,843,825
Japan: 4,383,762
Germany: 3,322,147
China: 3,250,827

Link (new window)

I guess there's a reason where the richest country in the world.

Have you corrected those stats for population?

US: 304,000,000
Japan: 127,000,000
Germany: 87,000,000

While China drops out quite a ways from the US, Japan and Germany sure close pretty quickly.

Skleenar:OK: Quick informal poll--

How many McCain bumper stickers would you say you have seen? (rough estimate).

How many Obama?

For me, it is 1:1,000, at least.

I have, to this day, seen only a single McCain bumper sticker. And not a single lawn sign or other indicator that a particular individual supports the man.

This Past weekend I drove from the Jersey Shore to Virginia Beach and back. I saw a lot of Obama stickers (too many to count), zero John McCain, and two cars with with Ron Paul stickers, and one pick-up truck that had the whole back window turned into a Ron Paul ad.

I thought McCain = Bush ??

shiat, wrong script!