People register 4-wheelers here and drive them around town.

yeah sure, but can you drink and do this to a bunch of golf carts?

It's for the better: cyclists are the most dangerous thing on the road.

When you slam into one of these, you have to yell "Fore!" beforehand.

I don't understand how a vehicle with a top speed of 17mph is street legal.

I've seen a couple of three-wheel sport bikes around town lately, with two wheels in the front. Both of them were ridden by nerdy-looking fat dudes who mistakenly purchased them thinking they'd get poon with them. One is often parked in front of a Starbucks where the guy tries to mack on any woman walking through with a latte.

/cyclist
//proven faster than you in rush hour traffic.

So you can afford the expensive habit of golf but you don't want to pay for gas? farking yuppies.

bicycles are great.

Asshat "entitlement" riders obeying no law but their own are not.

// I walk, my carbon footprints even smaller than yours. And I don't cut off cars every block to get where I'm going, then act like I'm the moral one.

Tax bicycles, require tags. Traffic is traffic.

Generation_D:bicycles are great.

Asshat "entitlement" riders obeying no law but their own are not.

Tax bicycles, require tags. Traffic is traffic.

What would be more effective is just education for everyone about the role of bicycles. I got yelled at by a driving instructor to "get on the sidewalk" last week on my commute home, then watched him fail to pull over for a lit-up ambulance half a block later.

A bunch of ad time spent on talking about how bicycles should act and how they should be treated would do much better than tagging them.

My current commuting ire is wrong-way cyclists, followed closely by sidewalk cyclists. I've decided to just start playing chicken with them until they get out of my way as reason has a decades-long history of not working with them.

soze:I've seen a couple of three-wheel sport bikes around town lately, with two wheels in the front. Both of them were ridden by nerdy-looking fat dudes who mistakenly purchased them thinking they'd get poon with them. One is often parked in front of a Starbucks where the guy tries to mack on any woman walking through with a latte.

/cyclist
//proven faster than you in rush hour traffic.

You mean one of these?


I actually kinda like them.

/hotlinked for her pleasure.

EPIC FAIL, subby.


/I never began to tolerate bicyclists on the road.
//needs to be reposted:

Sounds like Peachtree City Georgia to me.

What soze said. QFT.

The USDOT actually puts out some informational videos about cycling on the street. It took me a while to find them, though. I'd love to see more bicycle education.

/bike commuter
//slow 'cause I'm lazy

I have a 2005 Kawasaki Mule and next week I will have the title so I can register it as street legal. All that is required is the title, a slow moving triangle and a verification that it goes under 25 miles per hour. I use it to run around town and to ride to work. There has been complaints about kids on 4-wheelers tearing up stuff and speeding so until I get the tags on it I have to park it. I think it is a good idea to let people ride utility vehicles, and I do not understand why a person would complain because these are on the street. they need to stfu and realize a 25 MPH Mule is NOT a dang 4-wheeler.

SpeshilEdjukashin:I don't understand how a vehicle with a top speed of 17mph is street legal.

How does one respond to a statement such as this. The article clearly explains what it takes to be street legal. I guess the short answer is "it's street legal when it meets the rules of being street legal". Apparently going over 17 mph isn't one of the constraints.

/Doubt that makes it easier for you to understand.
//feeling snarky on the farky
///I'm probably just an ass with too many beers.

morbo:

You mean one of these?

I actually kinda like them.

/hotlinked for her pleasure.

Aye, though one of the ones I saw was in EXTREEEEEEEEME yellow. They look really goofy IMO, and to an extent negate the usefulness of a motorcycle. They're like snowmobiles crossed with Wisconsin Ducks.

/wishes she could post pictures of motorists being run over by trains without getting banned

morbo:soze:I've seen a couple of three-wheel sport bikes around town lately, with two wheels in the front. Both of them were ridden by nerdy-looking fat dudes who mistakenly purchased them thinking they'd get poon with them. One is often parked in front of a Starbucks where the guy tries to mack on any woman walking through with a latte.

/cyclist
//proven faster than you in rush hour traffic.

You mean one of these?


I actually kinda like them.

/hotlinked for her pleasure.

I saw one of those parked outside of the surfshop yesterday and was wondering what the hell it was. Looks like a jetskicycle

Generation_D:bicycles are great.

Asshat "entitlement" riders obeying no law but their own are not.

// I walk, my carbon footprints even smaller than yours. And I don't cut off cars every block to get where I'm going, then act like I'm the moral one.

Tax bicycles, require tags. Traffic is traffic.

You know - I'm not totally opposed to this as long as the tags are fairly cheap. I see a lot of riders who quite honestly don't understand what they are doing. Plus it makes a statement that bikes are, indeed, vehicles that have a right to the road. That said, I'd like to not have to tag each bike (have 4) individually since I only ride one at a time (not opposed to this for cars either).

NO NO NO! There are already too many precious golf carts around here. Instead, if you drive a golf cart anywhere other than at a golf course it should be an automatic cock punch

///I'm probably just an ass with too many beers.

Send them to me. I'll take them off your hands.

I'm all for these, it'll slow down the cars for the bicyclists, and transfer the hate at the same time.

soze:Generation_D:bicycles are great.

Asshat "entitlement" riders obeying no law but their own are not.

..........

My current commuting ire is wrong-way cyclists, followed closely by sidewalk cyclists. I've decided to just start playing chicken with them until they get out of my way as reason has a decades-long history of not working with them.


Wow, talk about a self righteous asshat. Who the fark assigned you to be in charge of teaching everyone else how to ride a farking bicycle?

Bicycles weigh less than 20 lbs. Cars weigh 2500-3000 lbs and pickup trucks weigh 3000-5000 lbs. The laws of physics dictate that the guy on the bicycle cannot command right of way without significant risk. Since most drivers out there haven't touched a bicycle since 5th grade, don't expect them to be all current on bicycle rules of the road. Just accept the fact that you're a secondary user of the roads and concede right of way to the primary users of the roads (anyone in a vehicle bigger than your bicycle).

When I'm walking or riding my bicycle, I fully expect every single vehicle to not see me, and I act accordingly. Therefore I have no problems dealing with vehicular traffic, I just concede right of way to all of them. When I'm driving my pickup truck, I tend to ignore the hapless critters on foot and on bicycles. They aren't a concern of mine.

Bakudai:

I saw one of those parked outside of the surfshop yesterday and was wondering what the hell it was. Looks like a jetskicycle

It's a Can-Am Spyder, they're made by Bombardier. The way I heard them first described was a snowmobile with wheels.

/isle seat please

Goofball_Jones:/isle seat please

Niice.
I see a flying cat in there for good measure.

/That many bicylists and only 1 was paying attention.
//the rest got hit by the car.
///Bowling anyone.?

There is a local college professor I see on the road.
He weighs at least 350lbs and drives a small scooter.
You can't see the scooter because he folds over it,
it's like watching Rosie Odonnell ride a mouse

/always felt sorry for the scooter
//wherever it is under there

skwerl:

When I'm driving my pickup truck, I tend to ignore the hapless critters on foot and on bicycles. They aren't a concern of mine.

Thank you for proving my point about education. How did you get your license with that noise?

Great. More speed bumps

We kick this around at work, or used to, before our resident cyclenistas all quit.

Basically it went like this:

Cyclenista: Damn I got cut off in traffic again, asshat commuter drivers and their carbon footprints

Me: Were you the guy I saw flying through 6 red lights on the way down Pike the wrong way on a one way then cutting a row of pedestrians off as you cut the curve at 25 mph?

Cyclenista: You'd ride like that too if you'd been doored as much or cut off as much as I have. F'in SUV suburban F's. In fact why dont you ride, you could use to lose a few lbs.

Me: I rode for 20 yrs til my knees quit letting me. Now I walk. When I did ride, I damn sure didn't cut people off then whine it was their fault either.

On and on it went. Great guys individually, but as a group, cyclenistas are just whining babies with adrenaline highs and a very over developed sense of entitlement.

lonewolf:Great. More speed bumps

Cyclist make good speed bumps...

/zing

the same amount of people who know how to properly operate a bicycle is around the same as the amount of people who know how to properly operate a car. probably 2% of the population, and licenses don't make a difference because they are too easy to get.

I wish I had a golf cart.

Let's hope this works...

rhiannon:///I'm probably just an ass with too many beers.

Send them to me. I'll take them off your hands.

hehe - I don't think you want them now. They're slightly used.

skwerl:Since most drivers out there haven't touched a bicycle since 5th grade, don't expect them to be all current on bicycle rules of the road. Just accept the fact that you're a secondary user of the roads and concede right of way to the primary users of the roads (anyone in a vehicle bigger than your bicycle).

Many states spell it out in the drivers manual- the book you have to read in order to pass the written test for the license (and also happens to be where the rules of the road are printed). Usually bicycles are treated the same as cars under the law. That means you use the street and obey the same traffic signs, signals, and laws. That also means that cars must yield to them just as with any other vehicle, the only difference being that you are allowed to pass bikes in no passing zones due to the speed differential (but it must be SAFE to do so). If you've passed a driving test, you've read the laws and how they apply to bikes.

Yes, I get annoyed when somebody is riding a bike on a street where bikes are clearly not intended nor is it safe. There's a few of those near here- I came up on a cyclist who was climbing a hill on a curvy road, and he was maybe doing 3mph. I still gave him plenty of room and trolled along behind him until it was safe to pass. He might not have been real bright to ride there, but that's no reason to damn near kill him (or let somebody else try to do it).

Coming soon:

How about...NO!

Generation_D:We kick this around at work, or used to, before our resident cyclenistas all quit.

Basically it went like this:

Cyclenista: Damn I got cut off in traffic again, asshat commuter drivers and their carbon footprints

Me: Were you the guy I saw flying through 6 red lights on the way down Pike the wrong way on a one way then cutting a row of pedestrians off as you cut the curve at 25 mph?

Cyclenista: You'd ride like that too if you'd been doored as much or cut off as much as I have. F'in SUV suburban F's. In fact why dont you ride, you could use to lose a few lbs.

Me: I rode for 20 yrs til my knees quit letting me. Now I walk. When I did ride, I damn sure didn't cut people off then whine it was their fault either.

On and on it went. Great guys individually, but as a group, cyclenistas are just whining babies with adrenaline highs and a very over developed sense of entitlement.

This quoted for accuracy.

Please treat us drivers respectfully while we are attempting to not turn you into roadkill.

Lets all get along and all that.

/I am going to win this confrontation in my SUV one way or another.
// Why am I the only one being courteous?

They should make an iPhone-shaped bicycle seat. That way, the rider can listen to his favorite Kate Voegele track while having the phone crammed up his ass at the same time. It's not fair they should have to trade off just because they're riding a bike. You should be able to have that phone up your ass at all times.

Get some of those noise-canceling earbuds and turn the volume up way high, too. That way, I can claim you never heard my car horn after you become my new hood ornament.

coming from a truck driver.. if you try to cross traffic in front of me im not going to stop.. not because i hate you in your little neon yellow spandex onesy.. but because i cant and doing so would destroy thousands of dollars in fragile merchandise that im not gonna be held responsible for because you dont want to use the crosswalk

same road same rules my farking arse, get in the path of a truck and darwin will be greeting you in hell

I love alternate modes of transport

Wish cities would have designated human/electric powered vehicle lanes

Herd them into bike lanes and make it a 300.00 fine to go out of it.

Then they'll be stuck behind a bunch of other people on bikes and screaming "^#$^!$%!$!!" instead of motorists.

bunner:Herd them into bike lanes and make it a 300.00 fine to go out of it.

Then they'll be stuck behind a bunch of other people on bikes and screaming "^#$^!$%!$!!" instead of motorists.

So every street will have a bike lane then, right? Cool.

theolinc:coming from a truck driver.. if you try to cross traffic in front of me im not going to stop.. not because i hate you in your little neon yellow spandex onesy.. but because i cant and doing so would destroy thousands of dollars in fragile merchandise that im not gonna be held responsible for because you dont want to use the crosswalk

same road same rules my farking arse, get in the path of a truck and darwin will be greeting you in hell

Yeh I'm sure you won't care after you've taken a life and you have to live with that memory for the rest of your life. Unless you look at people like skunks or raccoons, I'm sure you are all talk when you say you don't really mind if you kill some biker because you are too concerned with money.

This ain't trading spaces son, this is real life!

cornell_cng:bunner:Herd them into bike lanes and make it a 300.00 fine to go out of it.

Then they'll be stuck behind a bunch of other people on bikes and screaming "^#$^!$%!$!!" instead of motorists.

So every street will have a bike lane then, right? Cool.

Actually, they should.

I got nothing against riding bicycles any more than I do people playing tennis.

Just don't do in in front of oncoming, 70 MPH semis.

cornell_cng:bunner:Herd them into bike lanes and make it a 300.00 fine to go out of it.

Then they'll be stuck behind a bunch of other people on bikes and screaming "^#$^!$%!$!!" instead of motorists.

So every street will have a bike lane then, right? Cool.

pretty sure everyone would be cool with that.

falcon176:cornell_cng:bunner:Herd them into bike lanes and make it a 300.00 fine to go out of it.

Then they'll be stuck behind a bunch of other people on bikes and screaming "^#$^!$%!$!!" instead of motorists.

So every street will have a bike lane then, right? Cool.

pretty sure everyone would be cool with that.

Actually, I have some stipulations for that. I get to duck out of the bike lane if it has death grates, double parked vehicles, open doors, animals, joggers, poorly maintained asphalt, or miscellaneous debris in it.

You know, like a car would out of their lane.

/you should see the bolt I pulled out of my rear tire last week :(
//I have a picture of it on my LJ

I completely approve of this. I would much prefer old people in golf carts than massive cars they can't see over.