Mrs Thorpe said Rev Cameron had already offended them during the wedding rehearsal, when he objected to her father, Denis Robinson - who suffers from arthritis - using a walking stick to escort her down the isle.

The vicar asked him: 'Do you really need that to walk with that?' Mrs Thorpe insisted that he used the walking stick.

Mr O'Driscoll, a funeral director, said: 'I have organised funerals at Christ Church where this vicar will not let families play any sort of music, other than hymns, in church.
'It causes offence at a difficult time when families are grieving.

Yeah, sounds like this vicar is a big ol' scrotum.

I don't know this vicar, but I've known some like him.
/dirty vicars

well, they can make it up by having tea and cake with the vicar or they will DIE!


/cake please.

/Obligatory

That would describe every Jehovah Witness Elder as well. Guess all that window washing pisses 'em off.

Wow, I hope this doesn't happen at my wedding next month, given the venue.

Although my kid does like swimming...

/dersk, yes, I'm getting married on a boat called Captain Kok. And it's pronounced like you'd think.

That's what you get for having the kid before the wedding instead of after.

while I'm not a huge fan of people who bring their children to weddings and allow them to run around, scream, etc and make no effort to keep them quiet - this vicar sounds like he just has the sandiest vagina EVER. I was on the fence until I got to the walking stick part - wtf? Who would try to stop an arthritic man from using a cane to walk his daughter down the aisle? Sad.

SilentStrider:well, they can make it up by having tea and cake with the vicar or they will DIE!


/cake please.

So my choices are "or death"? Well, I'll have the chicken then.

Hey kid, this is a wedding ceremony, not Sesame Street.

Can I have tea with my cake?

Good. Nobody should have to put up with the insolence of children.

And hey, and sign of the clergy being firm with kids in an appropriate way is ALWAYS welcome.

Perhaps if the they the wedding first, then the baby, this might have been prevented. Although, the vicar sounds like he would be opposed to sex as well.

Kid is probably well on his way to being another precious little snowflake that does no wrong.

This is easy to fix. Don't go to churches, don't pay any attention to these witch doctors.

I have to side with the Vicar in this one: The new wife is a slut and the new husband is a whoremonger and they both shuld be publicly punished for living in sin prior to their marriage. The two year old issue of their previous relationship should be removed from them and placed in a home to be raised to be respectful of our Holy God and his Church.

HomerButt:
Yeah, sounds like this vicar is a big ol' scrotum.

THAT, and I think he is the sort of guy who either:

1) never had children of his own [pre-emptive "insert saucy joke here" comment]

or

2) only has calls to adult-oriented posts (nursing homes, seminary, etc) where there are very few kids.


/Wife of a Lutheran pastor who has served for 40 years
//getting a kick, etc.

From TFA:
'But the fact was Cameron was only acting as any two-year-old child would.

'It is completely unrealistic to expect a child to remain silent in church.'


Sounds to me like momma already knew that her kid was going to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. I blame her and the groom who didn't have the gonads necessary to point that out to her during the planning stages.

/hates kids
//yes, your kids too

bluebell73:while I'm not a huge fan of people who bring their children to weddings and allow them to run around, scream, etc and make no effort to keep them quiet - this vicar sounds like he just has the sandiest vagina EVER. I was on the fence until I got to the walking stick part - wtf? Who would try to stop an arthritic man from using a cane to walk his daughter down the aisle? Sad.

Mitigating factor - the child making noise WAS THE SON OF THE BRIDE. Not Great Aunt Petunia's or something.

I was at a Catholic wedding where a three year old (nephew of the groom) was making a ton of noise, especially during some of the most solemn parts. The mom finally took him outside. I had wondered what happened, until the mom let me know that the babysitter they had hired backed out, and any backup they had to watch the kid was already invited to the wedding, so they were stuck.

But in this case, the vicar totally overreacted.

Grandmother, subby. The mother was the bride.

Vicar ruins wedding after ordering 2-year-old child, mother-to-be removed for "making a scene"

Keep working on those reading skills, subby.

blueviking:SilentStrider:well, they can make it up by having tea and cake with the vicar or they will DIE!


/cake please.

So my choices are "or death"? Well, I'll have the chicken then.

Tastes of human

curmudge
I have to side with the Vicar in this one: The new wife is a slut and the new husband is a whoremonger and they both shuld be publicly punished for living in sin prior to their marriage. The two year old issue of their previous relationship should be removed from them and placed in a home to be raised to be respectful of our Holy God and his Church.
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HAHAHAAHA *sputter* *gasp* HAHAAHAHAHA!!!
and that from a Christian

1/10 not subtle enough ;)

curmudge:I have to side with the Vicar in this one: The new wife is a slut and the new husband is a whoremonger and they both shuld be publicly punished for living in sin prior to their marriage. The two year old issue of their previous relationship should be removed from them and placed in a home to be raised to be respectful of our Holy God and his Church.

This.

Friskya:From TFA:
'But the fact was Cameron was only acting as any two-year-old child would.

'It is completely unrealistic to expect a child to remain silent in church.'

So...

Maybe...

If you left the kid with a sitter...

Inflatable Rhetoric:This is easy to fix. Don't go to churches, don't pay any attention to these witch doctors.

I guess I'm a little confused, because the impression I had was that in Britain, having a civil service is much more usual than in America, and you have to actually have a whole extra ceremony if you're doing it in a church -- so it would indicate that you're active in that community and your kid would be used to going, and you and the vicar would have been closer.

Perhaps they have church-weddings-for-show in Britain too.
Hrm.

JimmyCarter'sSecondTerm:That's what you get for having the kid before the wedding instead of after.

No. Admins mistakenly added the extra dashes (there was no mother-to-be) and it was actually the grandmother that was removed, not the mother. Guess that's what the dumbass submittard gets for not reading the farking article carefully enough.

/submittard

MadTheologian:HomerButt:
Yeah, sounds like this vicar is a big ol' scrotum.

THAT, and I think he is the sort of guy who either:

1) never had children of his own [pre-emptive "insert saucy joke here" comment]

or

2) only has calls to adult-oriented posts (nursing homes, seminary, etc) where there are very few kids.


/Wife of a Lutheran pastor who has served for 40 years
//getting a kick, etc.

The article said the vicar has two grown children. He must have been an absolute delight to have as a father.

And BTW...I noticed that neither party mentioned any ground rules set before the wedding (hymns from the official hymnbook only, cry room is located in back of sanctuary, any provisions for disabled members of the party and guests, etc).

Better to ask questions very early in the game than to encounter the pitfalls on wedding day.

Bathia_Mapes:
The article said the vicar has two grown children. He must have been an absolute delight to have as a father.

Yikes! Must be via cloning or mitosis.

/need moar coffee

The English still attend church?

Marriage isn't that big of a deal anyway. My sis in law and her fiance are going to get married in a couple years, but they already have a kid, and my brother in law and his partner already have kids, but they've never been married, though they have been together for years. Piece of paper with yours and his (or vice versa) names on it doesn't mean crap unless you want it to. I have seen people get married and then have it last for mere months. Yes I am married, but well, the military kinda requires it for health insurance, and dependent purposes and stuff like that, but really, there is no guarantee that they're gonna stay with you these days if you are married. It's not locked, like it was 200 years ago. Just not much point anymore, except as a psychological thing, I suppose.

This, once again, from a Christian

Flowers in the Attic is the appropriate method of dealing with children.

st.theresa:Inflatable Rhetoric:This is easy to fix. Don't go to churches, don't pay any attention to these witch doctors.

I guess I'm a little confused, because the impression I had was that in Britain, having a civil service is much more usual than in America, and you have to actually have a whole extra ceremony if you're doing it in a church -- so it would indicate that you're active in that community and your kid would be used to going, and you and the vicar would have been closer.

Perhaps they have church-weddings-for-show in Britain too.
Hrm.

Just don't go to church, don't give them any money, let them go out of business, UNLESS god intervenes and does something about it. Churches and their staff are parasites.

dugrik
The English still attend church?
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Yes but to listen to how lipsticks in this season remind the vicar of our Lord Jesus, because when he went riding on the donkey on Passover, he must have gotten tarted up a bit...

MadTheologian:Better to ask questions very early in the game than to encounter the pitfalls on wedding day.

If you want a pretty location for a wedding, there are plenty public buildings -- here we have some cool old libraries, elegant hotels, etc. If you get married in a religious building, you should be familiar with it - long-term membership is a start. Perhaps they should charge a higher usage fee for a location that obviously doesn't hold any nostalgia or spiritual cache to the "happy couple."

Now if the two-year-old had told the vicar to stop making a scene, that would be ironic.

There's usally a whole montage of kids being silly at weddings on America's Funniest Home Videos. Normal officiants laugh and lightly chastise. This guy's a jerk.

I agree that a wedding shouldn't sound like a daycare. I'm looking at you good friend of mine who let everyone bring their kids to her wedding and made my ears bleed!

HOWEVER, in this case, it was the son of the bride and groom, and he was babbling. Babbling is one thing, screaming quite another.

The vicar over reacted like nobody's business.

/sandy vic-gina?
//no small children was right on the "save the date" for my wedding later this month: No one under 8 allowed at all, 8-18 immediate family and wedding party members only.

Where does this vicar get off telling these people how their ceremony should be? If they want their kid to run around screaming during the ceremony, that's THEIR choice, and as it was, all he was doing was talking. If I were the bride and this had happened to me, I would've called the whole thing off and walked out. Go to the justice of the peace and finish it.

Weddings are not for small children. Keep your cooter turd at home.

Good for him! I'm so tired of seeing people allow their children to do whatever they want, whenever they want. The mother herself says the child had been talking since before the service even began. They probably didn't want to take him out or quiet him since it might stunt his emotional growth or some crap.
I don't understand why people take such young kids to weddings anyways, it's not like they are going to remember it and chances are high they will disrupt it. Or is it just the opportunity to dress said child like a baby doll and have adoring relatives exclaim how cute he/she is?

I went to a church service once where the kids were happy and having a good time during the children's portion of the service where the preist or clergy call the kids up front and have a little lesson for them in front of everyone. Well, they said a prayer and the kids all clapped and cheered afterwards. The head clergy immediately admonished the children and curtly said, "You don't clap and cheer after a prayer!"

I thought that was a pretty shiatty thing to do, let the kids clap and cheer after a prayer if they want to you insufferable prick!

Vicar, I've done many bad things!

\Well, so have I...

dugong: Weddings are not for small children. Keep your cooter turd at home.

Every wedding I have ever been to had children there. There was never a problem, because the parents made sure of it. Bad parents is the issue...though not in this case I think. Kids babble, the individual the parents put in charge of the should have quieted him.

Was this his first wedding or something? I don't think I've been to a wedding where a 2 year old didn't make a "scene". That's like asking people not to breathe.

Haplo127x,dugong

Did it ever occur to you blockheads that some people might not have a choice in the matter? I have to take my children EVERYWHERE, because I'm in California, and my husband is on deployment, and everyone I know is 2500 miles away from me, so you know, finding people on the spot to shove my kids onto gets a little difficult from there....

Keep your damned mouths shut if you can't open your minds a little, you prigs.

Haplo127x:Good for him! I'm so tired of seeing people allow their children to do whatever they want, whenever they want. The mother herself says the child had been talking since before the service even began. They probably didn't want to take him out or quiet him since it might stunt his emotional growth or some crap.
I don't understand why people take such young kids to weddings anyways, it's not like they are going to remember it and chances are high they will disrupt it. Or is it just the opportunity to dress said child like a baby doll and have adoring relatives exclaim how cute he/she is?

It was the BRIDE'S child and the BRIDE'S wedding, she can do whatever the hell she damn well wants! If she wants her child at her wedding, and doesn't care about the noise he makes, then that's her choice.

Won't somebody please think of the chil. . . oh, wait.

Nevermind.

dugong:Weddings are not for small children. Keep your cooter turd at home.

Wow, how remarkably clever and witty. Lemme guess, you've been waiting weeks for an thread in which you could use that term, haven't you?