I'm in Kansas City watching my daughter compete in the Jr. Olympic National Trampoline and Tumbling Championships right now, so I'm really getting a kick out of these...replies?

/AW FTW
//didn't come here in an RV though
///one Bronze so far and hoping for two golds later today
////attention slashies!

Well, if you want a Dodge Durango, I could definitely get you a good deal..............Of course why the hell would you want one?

My parents are going to try to sell theirs. I fear they may have waited to long.

/America, the cheap energy party is OVER!!!

Assuming:

1. Gas prices are at their peak or almost at their peak
and
2. Dealers are offering huge discounts on gas guzzlers right now

then, yes, it is.

Pimple:Assuming:

1. Gas prices are at their peak or almost at their peak
and
2. Dealers are offering huge discounts on gas guzzlers right now

then, yes, it is.

If not, you're farked.


/always drove gas sippers

The entire RV "lifestyle" is retarded. You can't "see the country" in an RV if the only places you ever go are campgrounds and Wal-Marts.

Screw RVs and the retirees that own them.

realmolo:The entire RV "lifestyle" is retarded. You can't "see the country" in an RV if the only places you ever go are campgrounds and Wal-Marts.

That is the country.

/only half-joking
//sigh

I met and became friends with a guy who has RV while camping at Topeka for the drag races. He told me that an RV salesmen told him once that if a customer ever inquired about the MPG of an RV, they're not a potential customer.
Met them again at the races again this year & they stayed at a hotel because gas prices were too damn high...

realmolo:The entire RV "lifestyle" is retarded. You can't "see the country" in an RV if the only places you ever go are campgrounds and Wal-Marts.

Screw RVs and the retirees that own them.

I suspect they could give a cr&p what you think. And I suspect they wouldn't care for whatever it is that you happen to like. See? That's kind-of the neat thing about individualism ... not everybody likes the same things. (lessens the demand for those things I happen to like.

realmolo:The entire RV "lifestyle" is retarded. You can't "see the country" in an RV if the only places you ever go are campgrounds and Wal-Marts.

You see more of it than you can jetting between major cities. (Unless you're one of those losers who never pokes their heads outside the RV.)

Besides, gas isn't going to be any cheaper - if you can afford it now, might as well enjoy it a little longer.

You buy when the price is low, so long as the price goes up, you make money. But, if the price goes down...

In 1974, you could get all of the 60s/70s muscle cars for a steal ($500-1000), and they are work big big bucks now(50k+ in good condition).

My dad is thinking of buying a new SUV that is around a year or two old. He has a 1995 Yukon that he bought new that has less than 100k miles. His work commute is a total of 6 miles round trip to work. But it is handy to have a vehicle where you can haul stuff around when you need to work on things.

'Round up all of the Liberals, Democrats and other various America haters, including all of the media; throw them off the edge of the Grand Canyon, we would no longer have a huge economic problem. Nobody is in soup lines or even close, but the liberal media has brainwashed everyone the country is in a depression.'

Keep fiddlin' while Rome burns....

Mad Mark:I met and became friends with a guy who has RV while camping at Topeka for the drag races. He told me that an RV salesmen told him once that if a customer ever inquired about the MPG of an RV, they're not a potential customer.
Met them again at the races again this year & they stayed at a hotel because gas prices were too damn high...

I was going to buy one. I then did the math and figured out how much I was likely to use it, and then doubled that amount figuring I'd use it more once I had it. I came out WAAAYYYY ahead by staying at 5-star hotels and driving a car.

Back when gas was $3.

My RV gets 30 mpg

these people should think about riding a motorcycle. I just finished a 4000 mile round trip. Yeah four thousand. You will see and experience more on a motorcycle than you ever could IN an RV

chewd:My RV gets 30 mpg

Very Cool!

FTFA: "...and we like being able to pull off at a convenient spot when we're hungry and not even having to open the door. It really is a convenience thing."

What's the point of driving around the country if you're not even willing to step your fat asses outside. Just stay at home and watch TV.

dahmers love zombie:I'm in Kansas City watching my daughter compete in the Jr. Olympic National Trampoline and Tumbling Championships right now, so I'm really getting a kick out of these...replies?

/AW FTW
//didn't come here in an RV though
///one Bronze so far and hoping for two golds later today
////attention slashies!



Well woopty frickin' doo for you.

flypusher713:/America, the cheap energy party is OVER!!!

That's what they said in '73. And '79. But you're probably right this time.

low.dose:You will see and experience more on a motorcycle

I have read many grand epic pictoblogs of motorcycle trips. All of them involved the motorcycle breaking down as well as someone on the trip getting injured in the middle of nowhere.

Gordo:FTFA: "...and we like being able to pull off at a convenient spot when we're hungry and not even having to open the door. It really is a convenience thing."

What's the point of driving around the country if you're not even willing to step your fat asses outside. Just stay at home and watch TV.

You could buy videos of the places you'd like to see!

I went to a dealership yesterday to look around and two salesmen, the floor manager and the sales manager all but threatened to drag me out back and kill me if I didn't buy an SUV (that's not really an SUV it's a "crossover").

Eh, who cares. Gas gets expensive, they buy it. Gas runs out, they don't. Doesn't really bother me either way.

But in either case, I win with ye olde bicycle.

/I want to ride my bicycle
//ok, so I cost a lot in fuel anyway

realmolo:The entire RV "lifestyle" is retarded. You can't "see the country" in an RV if the only places you ever go are campgrounds and Wal-Marts.

Screw RVs and the retirees that own them.

That is so logical.. You guess you can't see the country at all because the only other option is to stay in a hotel. The views are probably worse from there too..

The economy, while not great, hasn't been in a recession and certainly not a depression. Most major media outlets have been keeping up the "you'll be stone dead in a moment" argument but it just won't go down. I heard someone call it the "Rasputin economy".

With oil inventories as high as they are, the era of cheap gas will come again, just like it did 25 years ago. Maybe not quite that cheap, but people who buy gas guzzlers now are taking a bit of a risk if the price downturn doesn't happen soon.

/Yaaay! I'm arguing on teh intartubes!

syrynxx:I have read many grand epic pictoblogs of motorcycle trips. All of them involved the motorcycle breaking down as well as someone on the trip getting injured in the middle of nowhere.

I took my old honda (1982), it ran well, I never had a worry about the bike. Now, riding through the rocky mountains was cold, if i ever do that again I will wear warmer cloths. I met a lot of cool people on motorcycle journeys as well. They were doing well. My biggest problem was fatigue, while riding through the desert especially. It can be lots of fun, but it can be very dangerous. You have to know your limits, and drive like everyone on the road does not see you, because they probably don't.

dahmers love zombie:

I'm in Kansas City watching my daughter compete in the Jr. Olympic National Trampoline and Tumbling Championships right now

My niece competed yesterday. My brother spoke of weapons grade boredom. Relevance? He drives a gas guzzler.

low.dose:Very Cool!

Thanks, i love that pic, its my happy place :)

Here she is at burning man.

oukewldave:My dad is thinking of buying a new SUV that is around a year or two old. He has a 1995 Yukon that he bought new that has less than 100k miles. His work commute is a total of 6 miles round trip to work. But it is handy to have a vehicle where you can haul stuff around when you need to work on things.

That's the thing that most people just don't seem to get. They just like to throw feces at SUV drivers even though a lot of them have really short commutes. Mpgs matter just as much as commuting distance. I have an f-150 but my commute is only 10 miles all highway. I work with people who have 40-50 mile commutes. They have Civics and corrolas. They use 13-14 gallons a week. I use 5. But since I'm driving a truck I must somehow be raping the environment more than they are.

chewd:Here she is at burning man.

I have always wanted one, maybe some day...

TheGreatGazoo:In 1974, you could get all of the 60s/70s muscle cars for a steal ($500-1000), and they are work big big bucks now(50k+ in good condition).

I came in here to mention this.

In1974 my dad bought a new Celica. the same dealer could have sold him several big block muscle cars (including a couple of vettes) for the same payments.

So depending on what car you buy right now you may be purchasing a future collectible. But car speculation today is riskier than smoking crack with DC mayors.

chewd:My RV gets 30 mpg

I like your RV!

"Some dealers are having a tough time, and a coach that cost $300,000 last year may cost $200,000 this year. You can buy a lot of gas for $100,000."

Yeah, just think of what you could buy with $300,000 if you skipped the purchase altogether.

logruszed:TheGreatGazoo:In 1974, you could get all of the 60s/70s muscle cars for a steal ($500-1000), and they are work big big bucks now(50k+ in good condition).

I came in here to mention this.

In1974 my dad bought a new Celica. the same dealer could have sold him several big block muscle cars (including a couple of vettes) for the same payments.

So depending on what car you buy right now you may be purchasing a future collectible. But car speculation today is riskier than smoking crack with DC mayors.

From what I've seen with my 07 Toyota, cars aren't built to last more than the duration of a lease anymore. YMMV but I doubt that any car made since 2000 will be collectible.

"Everyone thinks we are crazy, but now is the time to buy gas guzzlers VHS movies and equipment,"

Fixed

/got nuthin

"That is so logical.. You guess you can't see the country at all because the only other option is to stay in a hotel. The views are probably worse from there too.."

How is 12 hours of staring at the trees/fields/whatever on the side of an interstate considered a good view?

And yes, I *do* think that if you want to see the country, you should fly from city to city, and stay in a nice hotel. Or stay with friends, if you can. Stay for a week, at least. Hang out. LIVE in the place.

Hanging out at a campground doesn't count. Driving through a state doesn't count as "seeing it".

flypusher713:My parents are going to try to sell theirs. I fear they may have waited to long.

/America, the cheap energy party is OVER!!!

The era of cheap energy was over in 1939. (OMG WAR)
Then it was over in the '60's (OMG TEXAS IS RUNNING OUT!)
Then it was over in 1973. (OMG THE ARABS)
Then it was over in 1979. (OMG THE ARABS AGAIN)
Then it was over in 1991. (OMG WAR)
Then it was over in 2000. (OMG ROLLING BLACKOUTS)
Now it's over in 2008.

Oil's expensive right now, people. Whether it's actual market forces, market manipulation, or rampant speculation, is actually kind of irrelevant. Energy isn't.

There's essentially a limitless supply of hydrocarbons in this world. Some are pumped from the ground (crude), some are mined (tar sands), some are cooked out in place (oil shale), some are made (Fisher-Tropsch anything), and some are grown (bio-whatever.)

There's too much money to be made in oil right now for the prices to stay this high. When home prices quadrupled, everybody and their brother built new houses. There's now a glut on the market, and it's screwing some people (like me) over.

Saying that market pricing is a function of instantaneous supply and demand is like saying friction is Fr = μN. It's a good start, but it falls apart in the real world.

I live near Overland Park, and it's pretty much the "new money" sector of Kansas City suburbs. No one there's exactly hurting for the money to pour into their overpriced vehicles.

FTA: "Some dealers are having a tough time, and a coach that cost $300,000 last year may cost $200,000 this year. You can buy a lot of gas for $100,000."

True dat
If you can afford a $300k RV, $5 gas is just a minor annoyance to you anyway.

I say to drive what you want for whatever reason you want. It is truly on one else's business if you want an RV or a SUV. You got the money for it, go for it baby!

I am very pro-vehicle choice. Everyone else needs to STFU.

jojostan: Is that yours? I love the splitties, but the bay-window westies have so much nicer camping gear inside. My ultimate dream is to cut up an old splitty & put the top & camping gear from a '78 in.

But then im not sure if thats even possible.

I'd also give up my firstborn for one of those early 80s 4WD westies.

From what I've heard, the mileage on those things is so poor that the "savings on food and lodging" won't make up for it.

OMG GAS IS $.50 a gallon! I need a smaller car!
OMG GAS IS $.75 a gallon! I need a smaller car!
OMG GAS IS $1.00 a gallon! I need a smaller car!
OMG GAS IS $2.00 a gallon! I need a smaller car!
OMG GAS IS $3.00 a gallon! I need a smaller car!
OMG GAS IS $4.00 a gallon! I need a smaller car!

Anyone else old enough to have heard this before?

Though this time seems more humorous. All the pimped out Escalades for sale by teenagers that couldn't afford them in the first place. Classic.

Kevin5280:"Some dealers are having a tough time, and a coach that cost $300,000 last year may cost $200,000 this year. You can buy a lot of gas for $100,000."

Yeah, just think of what you could buy with $300,000 if you skipped the purchase altogether.

One of these?



I'll take a Diablo over an RV anyday, but given my current financial position, I would probably do something else with the money.

I drive a '72 Plymounth Fury III so I'm really not getting a kick...

/I start it twice a month. It's pretty much a cool yard ornament now.

//300K will buy a RV in the USA -or- it could buy you a giant mansion in Thailand with 24 hour BJs from a dozen girls... for about 25 years straight.

"Some dealers are having a tough time, and a coach that cost $300,000 last year may cost $200,000 this year. You can buy a lot of gas for $100,000."

A few comments:

1.) Prices dropping from $300k to $200k tells you what kind of gouging you were getting before.

2.) $200-$300k can get you a house instead.

3.) $100k can get you 25k gallons of gas (at current prices). An RV gets 8-10 mpg. You can travel 225k miles with that much money.

RV users average 3k miles a year citation. At current gas prices that's $12,000 during the year 2008.

If gas rises at the current rate of 8.9%/yr (that's the cost increase during the year 2007 citation) then his $100k will run out in the year 2013:

2008: $4.00 gallon/$12,000
2009: $4.36 gallon/$15,681 ($27,681 cumulative)
2010: $5.23 gallon/$18,817 ($46,499 cumulative)
2011: $6.27 gallon/$22,581 ($69,081 cumulative)
2012: $7.53 gallon/$27,097 ($96,178 cumulative)
2013: $9.03 gallon/$32,517 ($128,696)

Six years of travel in his shiny new RV, which cost him $200k yields a COL of $33.3k a year just in 'housing'. A $200k mortgage will cost approx $1,200 a month, or $14,400 a year. For the sake of argument I'm going to use my monthly utilities as a base-line for utility costs (I live in Sunny CA) of $4,000 a year, adding up to $18,400/yr housing and utility citation.

So he's spending $20k more a year on 'housing' and $10k more on 'utilities', running out of 'savings' in five years.

He's wrong. Now is not the time to be buying a gas-guzzler.