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(AP) Asinine White House says court ruling could allow detainees to walk the streets of America. Is anyone afraid yet? Hello? Is anyone listening?   (hosted.ap.org) divider line 241
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ndotseth 2008-07-03 11:21:26 PM  
Hey Libby, let's just set all the terrorists free. Then you can all join hands and sing songs beneath a rainbow.

I'd like to teach the world to sing, in perfect harmon BLAM!

 
Bill_Wick's_Friend 2008-07-03 11:29:29 PM  
I was just gonna come into this thread to laugh at the mentality that is afraid of the big bad scary terrorists "boogah boogah"....but then there it is in the first (filter) post, real as life!

Too funny.

 
jbc [TotalFark] 2008-07-03 11:29:43 PM  
If the last 7.5 years have taught us anything, it's a.) the Bush Administration never has a f---ing clue to what it's talking about, and b.) ndotseth never has a f---ing clue to what it's talking about, either.

 
Atillathepun [TotalFark] 2008-07-03 11:45:21 PM  
ndotseth:Hey Libby, let's just set all the terrorists free. Then you can all join hands and sing songs beneath a rainbow.

I'd like to teach the world to sing, in perfect harmon BLAM!


The guilty would (generally) stay detained and the innocent would (generally) go free, saving taxpayers loads of money.

And conservatives are AGAINST this?

Do they even have ANY conservative principles anymore?

 
Dancin_In_Anson [TotalFark] 2008-07-03 11:49:56 PM  
submitter:Hello? Is anyone listening?

Nope.

 
Sliding Carp [TotalFark] 2008-07-03 11:59:02 PM  
Well, they sure as hell made sure nobody can afford to drive.

 
ElQue [TotalFark] 2008-07-04 12:02:49 AM  
Atillathepun:ndotseth:Hey Libby, let's just set all the terrorists free. Then you can all join hands and sing songs beneath a rainbow.

I'd like to teach the world to sing, in perfect harmon BLAM!

The guilty would (generally) stay detained and the innocent would (generally) go free, saving taxpayers loads of money.

And conservatives are AGAINST this?

Do they even have ANY conservative principles anymore?


The Republican party has pretty much nothing to do with actual conservatives these days. 2008 republicans are religious totalitarians. True conservatives are independents or libertarians.

 
cameroncrazy1984 [TotalFark] 2008-07-04 12:03:39 AM  
Dancin_In_Anson:submitter:Hello? Is anyone listening?

Nope.


Sucks when you cry wolf for 7 years and then nobody listens, doesn't it?ndotseth:Hey Libby, let's just set all the terrorists free. Then you can all join hands and sing songs beneath a rainbow.

I'd like to teach the world to sing, in perfect harmon BLAM!


Hey, if the government had any actual evidence that they were terrorists, I'd be pissed if they set them free. But since they don't, we can't hold them. Simple as that.

 
Jon Snow [TotalFark] 2008-07-04 12:05:59 AM  
Dancin_In_Anson:submitter:Hello? Is anyone listening?

Nope.


Amen.

The Bush Administration is only good at one thing- uniting small government conservautistics and social democratic libtards in our shared disgust of its pathetic fearmongering.

 
NewportBarGuy [TotalFark] 2008-07-04 12:14:37 AM  
ndotseth:Hey Libby, let's just set all the terrorists free. Then you can all join hands and sing songs beneath a rainbow.

I'd like to teach the world to sing, in perfect harmon BLAM!


You truly are the dumbest farking person on the face of the planet. Congratulations.

 
SilentStrider [TotalFark] 2008-07-04 12:22:41 AM  
That .gif image of McCain saying "You will vote republican" would be appropriate here.

 
DamnYankees [TotalFark] 2008-07-04 12:36:10 AM  
NewportBarGuy:You truly are the dumbest farking person on the face of the planet. Congratulations.

I dunno. RLSM is still alive, right?

 
albanynyguy [TotalFark] 2008-07-04 12:36:31 AM  
I stopped reading at "The White House said..." so no.

 
SphericalTime [TotalFark] 2008-07-04 12:37:37 AM  
ElQue:The Republican party has pretty much nothing to do with actual conservatives these days. 2008 republicans are religious totalitarians. True conservatives are independents or libertarians.

You know, the real conservatives command my respect. I may not agree with them, but at least I can understand their point of view and why they want to do things the way that they do.

I wish you'd just TAKE BACK YOUR FREAKING PARTY ALREADY.

Until you do, I'll continue to despise everything about the Republican party because, hey, they deserve it.

 
Generation_D [TotalFark] 2008-07-04 12:38:06 AM  
If the gitmoed prisoners cases are looked at one by one, most were railroaded or sold by rival tribesmen, or arrested on false evidence.

Definitely not the shining example of combatting terror.

But, yes, by all means, lets keep being unamerican and hold them to infinite sentences without parole for crimes they may or may not have committed.

Farking idiot right wing dumbf--ks. Destroy American justice in order to try and save it.

 
Tabatha Static 2008-07-04 12:44:17 AM  
ndotseth:Hey Libby, let's just set all the terrorists free. Then you can all join hands and sing songs beneath a rainbow.
I'd like to teach the world to sing, in perfect harmon BLAM!


img372.imageshack.us
"Quite an experience to live in fear, isn't it? That's what it is to be a slave."

 
NewportBarGuy [TotalFark] 2008-07-04 12:44:43 AM  
DamnYankees:I dunno. RLSM is still alive, right?

Brothers from a different mother.

 
Psychotropic 2008-07-04 12:50:17 AM  
ndotseth:Hey Libby, let's just set all the terrorists free.

Since you've already tried and convicted these men of being terrorists, how about you share your evidence with the rest of us.
I'm sure to government would also appreciate your turning over this evidence to them so that terrorists don't go free and they can be convicted in a court of law.

Just once in your pathetic life, back up what your big mouth says or STFU.

 
DamnYankees [TotalFark] 2008-07-04 01:22:48 AM  
Psychotropic:ndotseth:Hey Libby, let's just set all the terrorists free.

Since you've already tried and convicted these men of being terrorists, how about you share your evidence with the rest of us.
I'm sure to government would also appreciate your turning over this evidence to them so that terrorists don't go free and they can be convicted in a court of law.

Just once in your pathetic life, back up what your big mouth says or STFU.


Why do you hate America?

 
One F Jef 2008-07-04 01:41:46 AM  
I heard Karl Rove on faux news spouting this bullshiat. Complete and utter lie designed to cause panic. We would never let them come onto American soil. The ruling didn't give them access to court ROOMS, it gave them access to legal court systems including representation and evidence review.

It's really funny watching two people talk about this stuff on faux. They're performing a very tiny one act play, a little dramatic theatre, and you know EXACTLY who their audience is.

ninesisters.files.wordpress.com

 
cameroncrazy1984 [TotalFark] 2008-07-04 01:44:33 AM  
Psychotropic:Since you've already tried and convicted these men of being terrorists, how about you share your evidence with the rest of us.

I was station-surfing on the AM dial this afternoon and heard a gem from Michael Medved. His rationale for keeping these "secret" tribunals was "classified evidence." Which, a caller pointed out, could be used in special "classified courts" but Medved, of course, said that then the suspect could then know the evidence against him, which would lead to another terrorist attack. Because if the terrorist knows what he's being accused of being a part of, he might use that information against us.


Breathtaking, the stupidity.

 
Dil Doe 2008-07-04 01:46:33 AM  
The 2008 Republican campaign slogan: BOO!

 
doyner [TotalFark] 2008-07-04 01:50:14 AM  
I, for one, feel much safer knowing that we don't have to charge people to detain them indefinitely. USA USA USA USA!

 
EL_FABREZ 2008-07-04 01:51:13 AM  
Or you could just keep releasing the noncoms to Albania, like you've been.

 
carpbrain 2008-07-04 01:52:10 AM  
I'm afraid. Afraid that our great country has lost sight of its moorings.

Torture? Our country: "Meh"
Initiating war for no justifiable reason? Our country: "Fark yeah!"
Unsupervised surveillance of our citizens? Our country: "Meh"
Politicization of Justice? Our country: "Huh?"
Conducting all governance in secret, allowing no oversight by Congress or any other body? Our country: "Huh?"

 
GhostFish 2008-07-04 01:52:46 AM  
Freedom is dangerous and frightening.

The alternative is worse.

 
Sharkface217 2008-07-04 01:52:53 AM  
I have a feeling that these detainees will be shipped to a foreign country so that the executive branch can give orders but the Supreme Court has no say.

/which is sad
//Bush Administration is reminding me of Andrew Jackson
///and not in a good way

 
Shrugging Atlas 2008-07-04 01:54:30 AM  
ndotseth:Hey Libby, let's just set all the terrorists free. Then you can all join hands and sing songs beneath a rainbow.

I'd like to teach the world to sing, in perfect harmon BLAM!


I know you're being an asshole as usual, but I think the McCain Campaign would be pissed at you just having posted their entire campaign strategy on fark.com.

 
RevMercutio [TotalFark] 2008-07-04 01:55:44 AM  
ElQue:Atillathepun:ndotseth:Hey Libby, let's just set all the terrorists free. Then you can all join hands and sing songs beneath a rainbow.

I'd like to teach the world to sing, in perfect harmon BLAM!

The guilty would (generally) stay detained and the innocent would (generally) go free, saving taxpayers loads of money.

And conservatives are AGAINST this?

Do they even have ANY conservative principles anymore?

The Republican party has pretty much nothing to do with actual conservatives these days. 2008 republicans are religious totalitarians. True conservatives are independents or libertarians.


This. The neocon theocrats have been mucking up the works for years. I'd oppose a Republican a lot less if they actually were Republican.

 
Yesdog [TotalFark] 2008-07-04 01:57:24 AM  
It's almost frickin' noble how that dumbass ndotseth set himself up as a caricature of the GOP-humping coward-addicts so that he could be universally mocked by everyone in this thread.

Rock on, spaz!

 
joegekko 2008-07-04 01:58:37 AM  
EL_FABREZ:Or you could just keep releasing the noncoms to Albania, like you've been.

Now what rhymes with Albania?
i29.photobucket.com

 
skookum 2008-07-04 02:00:18 AM  
And of course, this is a mistake. Mark my words: our enemies will use the Constitution against us, and the next attack will occur because of our hesitation to switch into a full wartime security mode, and then it will be too late to take action.

Terrorists should not be afforded any rights, and along with a strong sense of national unity should prove an effective deterrent.

 
cameroncrazy1984 [TotalFark] 2008-07-04 02:03:20 AM  
skookum:Mark my words: our enemies will use the Constitution against us,

Let them. I'm a free man because of that Constitution and I won't see you take that away from me.

 
GhostFish 2008-07-04 02:03:29 AM  
skookum
And of course, this is a mistake. Mark my words: our enemies will use the Constitution against us, and the next attack will occur because of our hesitation to switch into a full wartime security mode, and then it will be too late to take action.

Terrorists should not be afforded any rights, and along with a strong sense of national unity should prove an effective deterrent.


If we're to be damned, then let's be damned for what we believe in.

Cowering away from your beliefs because they endanger you is no way to live your life.

What the Hell happened to the home of the "free and the brave"?

 
EL_FABREZ 2008-07-04 02:03:54 AM  
joegekko:EL_FABREZ:Or you could just keep releasing the noncoms to Albania, like you've been.

Now what rhymes with Albania?



Schizophrenia?

/What?

Who said that?

 
Dirty Hot Linker 2008-07-04 02:04:52 AM  
ftfaThe White House said Thursday that dangerous detainees at Guantanamo Bay could end up walking Main Street U.S.A

explain to me how foreign detainees would get to stay on US soil w/o a visa?

 
LeroyLeroy 2008-07-04 02:06:40 AM  
Dangerous detainees at Guantanamo Bay could end up in Disneyworld? Oh noes!
img229.imageshack.us

 
skookum 2008-07-04 02:08:06 AM  
cameroncrazy1984:Let them. I'm a free man because of that Constitution and I won't see you take that away from me.

But see, that's very nice and noble, but that kind of policy isn't going to fly in Washington. We already have a plan to deal with Terror, and egging the terrorists to "bring it on" doesn't bode well for national security.

At the very least it's going to take a draft and some kind of national public conscription to guaranantee anything close to your sentiment, but no, "every man for himself" is not the way we're going to conduct this as a nation, sorry.

 
Occam's Chainsaw [TotalFark] 2008-07-04 02:09:52 AM  
LeroyLeroy: I love the delicious irony of Liberty Square bordering on Fantasyland.

 
joegekko 2008-07-04 02:12:20 AM  
skookum:cameroncrazy1984:Let them. I'm a free man because of that Constitution and I won't see you take that away from me.

But see, that's very nice and noble, but that kind of policy isn't going to fly in Washington. We already have a plan to deal with Terror, and egging the terrorists to "bring it on" doesn't bode well for national security.

At the very least it's going to take a draft and some kind of national public conscription to guaranantee anything close to your sentiment, but no, "every man for himself" is not the way we're going to conduct this as a nation, sorry.


At the risk of sounding dense, huh? How did you get from "Don't screw with liberty for a little perception of safety" to "every man for himself"? Or the draft, for that matter?

 
moriarty23 2008-07-04 02:14:04 AM  
skookum:cameroncrazy1984:Let them. I'm a free man because of that Constitution and I won't see you take that away from me.

But see, that's very nice and noble, but that kind of policy isn't going to fly in Washington. We already have a plan to deal with Terror, and egging the terrorists to "bring it on" doesn't bode well for national security.

At the very least it's going to take a draft and some kind of national public conscription to guaranantee anything close to your sentiment, but no, "every man for himself" is not the way we're going to conduct this as a nation, sorry.


Ah, please?
Freedom is freedom and god given, sorry.
You can't draft over rights.

 
Satyagraha 2008-07-04 02:15:32 AM  
Dirty Hot Linker
explain to me how foreign detainees would get to stay on US soil w/o a visa?

Is GITMO US soil now?

BTW there are some 20 million individuals in this country without a visa...doesn't seem to bother Bush much

 
Duke Phillips' Singing Bears 2008-07-04 02:17:25 AM  
moriarty23:skookum:cameroncrazy1984:Let them. I'm a free man because of that Constitution and I won't see you take that away from me.

But see, that's very nice and noble, but that kind of policy isn't going to fly in Washington. We already have a plan to deal with Terror, and egging the terrorists to "bring it on" doesn't bode well for national security.

At the very least it's going to take a draft and some kind of national public conscription to guaranantee anything close to your sentiment, but no, "every man for himself" is not the way we're going to conduct this as a nation, sorry.

Ah, please?
Freedom is freedom and god given, sorry.
You can't draft over rights.


God loaned you a buck o five?

 
GhostFish 2008-07-04 02:17:36 AM  
LeroyLeroy
Dangerous detainees at Guantanamo Bay could end up in Disneyworld? Oh noes!

I'm left wondering if it was intentional that Liberty Square was squeezed in between Adventureland, Frontierland, and Fanstasyland.

It's as if Erich Fromm had designed an amusement park with the intention of saying "man up nancy-boys" to the far right elements of western culture.

Okay...so it's possible I'm being a bit silly in my drunkenness.


But seriously, if you're concerned about what's happening in the modern world then read Fromm's Escape from Freedom. It is an amazing insight, and it was written in the wake of WWII.

 
Occam's Chainsaw [TotalFark] 2008-07-04 02:18:28 AM  
.... aaaand Skooks is pulling in a kingly haul tonight.

By biting at the really weak trolls, guys, you bring the level of discourse around here even further down. Enter flooders and threadshiatters, who I don't think I need to name. Encourage the good/funny trolls, not the pathetic ones.

 
GhostFish 2008-07-04 02:21:46 AM  
Occam's Chainsaw
.... aaaand Skooks is pulling in a kingly haul tonight.

By biting at the really weak trolls, guys, you bring the level of discourse around here even further down. Enter flooders and threadshiatters, who I don't think I need to name. Encourage the good/funny trolls, not the pathetic ones.


But responding to even well known trolls can be such a cathartic exercise.

 
rosebud_the_sled 2008-07-04 02:22:00 AM  
Bush is such a f**king coward. Man up. Free 'em. If they act up, kill 'em. Hell, we all gotta die sometime. They can 't get us all and does it really matter. More people die on our freeways every year, yah bunch of yellow bellied worms. Kick there ass and get on with life.

Why the f**k are you conservative pussies so afraid of these little spearchucking vermin?

 
Dirty Hot Linker 2008-07-04 02:24:26 AM  
Satyagraha:

Is GITMO US soil now?

It's wishy washy. If it was US soil, you'd bet that defecting Cubans could go there and claim asylum. Still if the terr'ists were found innocent, would that mean they could be allowed to stay in mainland USA? Probably not, they would be sent back to their country of origin.

BTW there are some 20 million individuals in this country without a visa...doesn't seem to bother Bush much

After 9/11 I was certain that we would tighten up our illegal immigration enforcement. Sadly, it actually became looser than the town bicycle

 
DrowningLessons 2008-07-04 02:25:01 AM  
"People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both."

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .- Ben Franklin

 
joegekko 2008-07-04 02:27:21 AM  
GhostFish:Occam's Chainsaw
.... aaaand Skooks is pulling in a kingly haul tonight.

By biting at the really weak trolls, guys, you bring the level of discourse around here even further down. Enter flooders and threadshiatters, who I don't think I need to name. Encourage the good/funny trolls, not the pathetic ones.

But responding to even well known trolls can be such a cathartic exercise.


And besides, even idiots need to be entertained. After all, would you rather they were kept busy on Fark, or out roaming the streets getting up to who knows what?

 
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