That's pretty damn cool.

Look, not to hate, but that song sucks. I guess doing harmony with yourself like that is neat -- although not unheard of by any means (double-tracking?) -- but "you were lost and you were real" is a wack lyric. Guy needs to work on his songwriting.

I hate it when people digitize the shiat out of their voices.

The submission made it sound so disgusting though.....

//keep that stuff behind closed doors please.

jennyz:I hate it when people digitize the shiat out of their voices.

This. Also, harmony is easy when you have thousands of dollars of studio equipment to help guide you. Do this on a four track in your bathroom, then i'm impressed.

Leave that business to Imogen Heap, guy.

Dime a dozen stuff, actually... except most people wouldn't post anything with so much distortion.

jennyz:I hate it when people digitize the shiat out of their voices.

There were definite parts where it sounded processed. Sounded like he using one of those cool keyboards with the microphone on it.

wotnartd:Leave that business to Imogen Heap, guy.

You know?

Mr. Andrew Bernard is not impressed.

I would have been far more impressed if he did what I THOUGHT was going to happen - that he harmonized 4-way all in one take. Recording yourself four times isn't exactly groundbreaking.

As it was, this was a big ball of "meh" compounded by a terrible song.

1 strike for auto tune.
1 strike for awful emo-pop song.
And that haircut? You're out.

Bastiat's Last Disciple:Look, not to hate, but that song sucks. I guess doing harmony with yourself like that is neat -- although not unheard of by any means (double-tracking?) -- but "you were lost and you were real" is a wack lyric. Guy needs to work on his songwriting.

It's wiggity wack.

Being Famous Sucks:This. Also, harmony is easy when you have thousands of dollars of studio equipment to help guide you. Do this on a four track in your bathroom, then i'm impressed.

All you need is a computer. The only thing that cost that kid any money at all was the mic, which is actually a pretty nice Blue.

Wingman8104:Sounded like he using one of those cool keyboards with the microphone on it.

Anteres Autotune or Melodyne. Overtuned vocals, a la T-Pain or Cher.

Merrikat:Anteres Autotune or Melodyne. Overtuned vocals, a la T-Pain or Cher.

Bingo. A-Tune is used by all the major pop artists, especially the older ones whose voices aren't what they used to be (Madonna) and the younger ones that never had it in the first place (Ashlee Simpson). Recording used to be an art, now it is just an algorithm. Sad to see the talent go.

I would have been more impressed if he had just put his voice through a loop station and harmonized live. This was a fun parlor trick at best.

Melodyne thread? Melodyne stomps Autotune. Check out v4 with DNA. It does polyphonic stuff now.

See for yourself. (new window)

The most impressive "self-harmony" is stuff like K.T. Tunstall. It's with instruments instead of voices, but she pulls some neat tricks with that delay/loop pedal

Sucked in 4 parts.

Criminy. That was more processed than a sack of Buddig cold cuts. Parts of it sounded like a pipe organ...Which is a risk you run when you Auto-tune that much. Ridiculous. Plus, yeah, the song was a gigantic pile of suck multiplied by itself and set on fire.

I'll see your harmony kid and raise you Brian May. Brian May, with his triple-tracked Echoplex "Brighton Rock" solo and wall of Vox AC30's, performed live 22 years ago on a guitar he built from scraps at 14 years old, while walking around a huge stage in front of a stadium full of thousands of people, all without a single note out of place:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-m69BrvJNfg

Now THAT is how you use technology to harmonize with yourself.

You can do that with even the worst multi-track recording software. Nothing special at all. The only difference is there's 4 different videos to accompany the 4 sound tracks.

It's so autotuned it sounds like a vocoder.

Which suggests that he can't carry a melody (or harmony) in a bucket. I'd love to hear the original tracks for the humor value.

Learn to sing. Or at least learn to use the software subtly enough that it doesn't sound badly fake.

Even Britney Spears can harmonize using a pitch shifter.

Pitch shifting software is the greatest thing ever and end of the farking world at the same time....for every real musician who uses it to fix the odd stray note, there are thousands of retards who run their entire vocals through it.

this kid is lame

guitar:It's so autotuned it sounds like a vocoder.


Exactly. The only talent needed is arranging the harmony, not singing it.

Weak, all around. If I'm going to watch self-harmonization, I'm going to watch some throat singing videos

code_monkey:Melodyne stomps Autotune. Check out v4 with DNA. It does polyphonic stuff now.

Holy shiat... that's amazing. I've got Melodyne, but haven't ever actually dug into the plugin. Apparently it's time. I can imagine doing some very very interesting stuff with autotuned polyphony.


factoryconnection:... Sad to see the talent go.

I think, that pop music would be craptastic with or without overtuned vocals. There are, however, people who use overtuned vox creatively. I use it on almost all of my backing vocal tracks because, as a function of the lyrics and aural aesthetic, I want them to sound artificial... I also compress the shiat out of them and use a little distortion.

Someone mentioned Imogen Heap... that woman used melodyne on one of her tracks to create an amazing palate of harmony. Be damned if I can remember the name of the track, but it's damn sure not T-Pain up-in-the-bed-like-oooh-ness.

I was hoping for this guy:

Link (new window)

look at his related videos.

MaxxLarge:Criminy. That was more processed than a sack of Buddig cold cuts. Parts of it sounded like a pipe organ...Which is a risk you run when you Auto-tune that much. Ridiculous. Plus, yeah, the song was a gigantic pile of suck multiplied by itself and set on fire.

I'm still listening to the Brian May solo, but I just wanted to congratulate you on your terrific analogy!

GroovyKodiaK:I was hoping for this guy:

Link (new window)

look at his related videos.

Easily 500 times cooler.

Here's that Imogen Heap (new window) tune in which she heavily overtunes her vocals for artistic reasons. Great song.

Merrikat:I think, that pop music would be craptastic with or without overtuned vocals. There are, however, people who use overtuned vox creatively. I use it on almost all of my backing vocal tracks because, as a function of the lyrics and aural aesthetic, I want them to sound artificial... I also compress the shiat out of them and use a little distortion.

Intentional use of effects to sound like effects is one thing... no one can fault a producer for that. But plenty of pop music has been written without A-tune that is terrific music. I doubt that such technology was available for the recording of Michael Jackson's "Bad," and certainly none of the Beatles or Beach Boys works. Sorry to lump them all in with the current market of pop musicians, I'm just saying that vocal-driven pop music doesn't have to suck, and it doesn't need computers if there is real singing talent to back it up.

A lot of artists are just too lazy and reliant on lip-synching during shows to ever get really good at singing their songs. The audience doesn't care, they just go expecting to hear the CD with a dazzling light and dance routine.

Google "Kongrol Ondar" or "Tuvan Throat singing"...3 & 4 notes at once, AT ONCE!!! no double tracking just controlled overtones. extreme skill!!!

Merrikat:Someone mentioned Imogen Heap... that woman used melodyne on one of her tracks to create an amazing palate of harmony. Be damned if I can remember the name of the track, but it's damn sure not T-Pain up-in-the-bed-like-oooh-ness.

Hide and Seek? It wasn't Melodyne, but instead a vocoder I can't remember the name of to save my life.

factoryconnection:Intentional use of effects to sound like effects is one thing... no one can fault a producer for that. But plenty of pop music has been written without A-tune that is terrific music. I doubt that such technology was available for the recording of Michael Jackson's "Bad," and certainly none of the Beatles or Beach Boys works. Sorry to lump them all in with the current market of pop musicians, I'm just saying that vocal-driven pop music doesn't have to suck, and it doesn't need computers if there is real singing talent to back it up.

Well said, but it needs an addendum: overtuned vocals and bad music aren't mutually exclusive. Overtuned stuff can be interesting, creative and good. As long as its not T-Pain. =P

Meh, Les Paul is unimpressed.

Notice they didn't need autotune. There was a reason: it's called "actual musicianship".

code_monkey:Melodyne thread? Melodyne stomps Autotune. Check out v4 with DNA. It does polyphonic stuff now.

See for yourself. (new window)

My God, it's full of WIN.

WANT!

I came in for the autotune hate, was not disappointed.

code_monkey:Hide and Seek? It wasn't Melodyne, but instead a vocoder I can't remember the name of to save my life.

That's the song. Great melodic structure in that song.

I'd be interested in finding out exactly how she did some of the multitracking in that one. I can hear the vocoder, but I can hear an autotune as well, and lots of automated delays and reverbs. Maybe some autopans too.

Jaykzo:guitar:It's so autotuned it sounds like a vocoder.


Exactly. The only talent needed is arranging the harmony, not singing it.

Weak, all around. If I'm going to watch self-harmonization, I'm going to watch some throat singing videos

Good stuff.
I was at this show:
Link (new window)

I HATE vocorders.

I do "self harmonization" all the time with every song I write and record and I don't bother to video it, edit it and post it on You farking Tube. What a douchebag.

Also, polyphonic Melodyne is coming soon. I have the current version; it's a great tool for beat doctoring and auto-tuning.

WOW! He really did that all HIMSELF? Does he have some sort of magical machine that enables him to record 4 passes? UNBELIEVABLE!

Subby is easily impressed!

The video section is going downhill fast.

Bah, I can do that in one take with an Eventide Harmonizer, and it would sound less vocoded, too.

Sounds more like one of these. It's possible he used something like this.

Merrikat:Well said, but it needs an addendum: overtuned vocals and bad music aren't mutually exclusive. Overtuned stuff can be interesting, creative and good. As long as its not T-Pain. =P

But about the "boots wif da furrrr?"

/Don't care if it isn't actually by or featuring T-Pain

Freddie Mercury did the self-harmonizing thing back in 1976 on "The Prophet Song":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xmsXqgHHEI&feature=related

(@ 3:25)

And, no, it was not studio trickery - he would sing with a delay of himself. He also did it LIVE:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MjRr3TJNxY&feature=related

(@ 2:56)

Pretty farking amazing.

Till the one day when the dipshiat met this asshole
And he knew it was much more than a hunch,
That this douchebag would somehow form a family.
That's the way he all became the Schizoid Bunch.
The Schizoid Bunch,

And that's the way he became the Schizoid Bunch.

as someone who has fixed many a crapped-out vox track, I'm really getting a kick out of these autotune artifacts...

seriously, why is this here?

Merrikat:
This is more impressive in a performance sense:

Just For Now


\This kid sucked. terrible tone, boring song, and hella autotuned.

I knew this vid would suck ty mods for not disapointing me

this isn't the first time nor the last time this kid will be doing something "with himself".