But then one of them got shot while administering First Aid in the truck as they were speeding away. It was shocking.

Then they canceled the series .

The best news is Israel has been right there in Iraq with us since we went into Iraq. The US and Israel support, train and pay Kurdish and Iranian rebel groups intent on attacking Turkey, Iraq and Iran.

Lovely. Part of the reason Iran has such poor infrastructure on their oil is Israeli and American raids inside Iran.

Hold your teenagers tight. We are going in, since we are already in there.

BAD. Just want to let everyone know.

We can classify them as a terrorist organization, but if we do something like TFA says we're doing, (Did not RTFA) then we are basically setting up for Iran or others to do the same to us *without losing the moral high ground*. It may be like Iran-Contra.

/Or Guantanamo
//yay for SCOTUS!
///slashies!

FTA: the $400 million funding for the escalation, which includes gathering intelligence about Iran's suspected nuclear weapons program, was approved.

Is it so Cheney/Bush can expose more covert agents working on nuclear proliferation?

I pity da foo' who made dat headline.

/Drink yo' milk. It's good for ya.

V. M. Molotov:BAD. Just want to let everyone know.

We can classify them as a terrorist organization, but if we do something like TFA says we're doing, (Did not RTFA) then we are basically setting up for Iran or others to do the same to us *without losing the moral high ground*. It may be like Iran-Contra.

/Or Guantanamo
//yay for SCOTUS!
///slashies!

And our American borders are particularly porous. Thanks Bushies.

TheShavingofOccam123:V. M. Molotov:BAD. Just want to let everyone know.

We can classify them as a terrorist organization, but if we do something like TFA says we're doing, (Did not RTFA) then we are basically setting up for Iran or others to do the same to us *without losing the moral high ground*. It may be like Iran-Contra.

/Or Guantanamo
//yay for SCOTUS!
///slashies!

And our American borders are particularly porous. Thanks Bushies.

I'm more worried about Iran classifying American soldiers as a "terrorist organization" like we did to their revolutionary guard, and capturing soldiers from Iraq and detaining them indefinitely...

Wonderful! Two wars isn't enough for true patriots! The Founding Fathers set this Christian nation forth on the true path with their act of defiance against the tyrannical British Empire, leading the world by example into liberty and justice for all believers of the one true way. Those that will not bend must be broken; not until all the sands of the Middle East run red with the blood of our foes can we declare the Crusade of Freedom complete.

And how many more "discussions" like this do we need to know that Iran is next™. We can at least get them to stop threatening the region, and yes, both China and Russia are counting on us to do it. It's up to them: they can either bottle up that idiot in office, or yes, the United States and Israel is going to teach them a lesson. This is not "another Iraq," "another Vietnam" and whoever tries to sell it as such should probably be watched.

Bush is far and away the worst President ever, his popularity is the lowest of any President and he's a lame duck yet he still gets everything he wants. It's nice to know that the Democrats in Congress are doing so much.

The "stories" about the C.I.A. selling crack in the urban gheto are just "that". American pride will out eh?

skookum:And how many more "discussions" like this do we need to know that Iran is next™. We can at least get them to stop threatening the region, and yes, both China and Russia are counting on us to do it. It's up to them: they can either bottle up that idiot in office, or yes, the United States and Israel is going to teach them a lesson. This is not "another Iraq," "another Vietnam" and whoever tries to sell it as such should probably be watched.

How, exactly, is Iran threatening the region? If you are referring to Ahmadinejad's bellicose statements toward Israel, you do realise that is all hot air, don't you? His presidency is largely ceremonial, and he carries no influence on Iranian foreign policy.

Rather, the USA is the great destabilising force in the region. If Hersh is correct - and I see no reason why he wouldn't be - then this article offers further proof of the Yanks' negative influence on the Middle East.

I_Love_Cheesecake:skookum:And how many more "discussions" like this do we need to know that Iran is next™. We can at least get them to stop threatening the region, and yes, both China and Russia are counting on us to do it. It's up to them: they can either bottle up that idiot in office, or yes, the United States and Israel is going to teach them a lesson. This is not "another Iraq," "another Vietnam" and whoever tries to sell it as such should probably be watched.

How, exactly, is Iran threatening the region? If you are referring to Ahmadinejad's bellicose statements toward Israel, you do realise that is all hot air, don't you? His presidency is largely ceremonial, and he carries no influence on Iranian foreign policy.

Rather, the USA is the great destabilising force in the region. If Hersh is correct - and I see no reason why he wouldn't be - then this article offers further proof of the Yanks' negative influence on the Middle East.

Hah, yes it's our fault.

The middle east has been a basin of peace and happiness through all time before the USA came along. The Muslim people live by the motto peace be to all men and the Shiite's and Sunnites live side by side in harmony. They treat all men and women fairly and consider murder and killing to be one of the greatest sins.

Well if nothing else it would be great if they teach the muslims how to fire 100000 rounds of ammunition and still not be able to hit a thing.

Not too sure if I like the idea of them being able to build a completely operational tank out of the contents of a garden shed.

subby steps to the plate, and the wind up from Rogers *crack* and it's a deep fly to left field and it's

OUTTA

HERE

/nice job on the headline

So, we're committing acts of war (with no declaration of war by Congress) against yet another non-hostile nation. And then when they retaliate we'll claim that they started it. We, as a nation, are Godwinning ourselves... we are the next Nazi Germany.

V. M. Molotov:TheShavingofOccam123:V. M. Molotov:BAD. Just want to let everyone know.

We can classify them as a terrorist organization, but if we do something like TFA says we're doing, (Did not RTFA) then we are basically setting up for Iran or others to do the same to us *without losing the moral high ground*. It may be like Iran-Contra.

/Or Guantanamo
//yay for SCOTUS!
///slashies!

And our American borders are particularly porous. Thanks Bushies.

I'm more worried about Iran classifying American soldiers as a "terrorist organization" like we did to their revolutionary guard, and capturing soldiers from Iraq and detaining them indefinitely...

There's a major difference. If Iran classifies the U.S. military as a terrorist organization, they would be correct.

/yes, i'm a veteran.
//i weep for my country.

Bunnyhat:Hah, yes it's our fault.

I suppose you think that 9/11 was our fault too.

skookum:And how many more "discussions" like this do we need to know that Iran is next™. We can at least get them to stop threatening the region... [snip]

Since when is defending yourself again foreign aggressors "threatening the region?"

Wow.. does anybody post now this isn't a troll?

I love how everyone who isn't doing anything covert loves to talk about it so much.

/the first rule of covert ops is..

maybe i am a little dense ...but how is initiating war right now a good idea?

this is like kicking a random stranger in the balls while like eight german shepards tearing your arms off.

There will be no draft, because the minute there is, support for ANY military outside of a national guard evaporates. In fact, I think you might be surprised at the anger and vengeance that 30 years of only-volunteer army would do to the rest of us that would never enlist, or on our families, who would also never enlist.

The people willing to support corrupt politicians' wars in this country have been propping up the whole military/industrial complex. You call it patriotic, we duly wave our flags and cheer and promise not to call you dumbasses to your face very often, particularly since most of you would probably attack physically if we did.

The minute a draft goes in for the petty BS that most of you are willing to go fight and die for .. thats when the gloves come off on protests as well.

There are nowhere near enough police and paramilitary in this country to contain everyone who would be motivated to actually put in an anti-war effort if required to do so. And the right wing knows it.

Face it, you like being the ones 'willing to die for your country' more than you like being smart about the asshats you blindly follow.

Quasi-Concious Racist Wordsmith:Bunnyhat:Hah, yes it's our fault.

I suppose you think that 9/11 was our fault too.



Whoooosh right over your head.

I was being sarcastic. If you couldn't figure that out from the next paragraph, well bully for you.

Try to imagine the outrage if it were reported the Iranian Special Forces had captured several of our soldiers in Iraq and were interrogating them secretly without any Geneva convention rights, probably under torture.

Just sayin'.

I wonder if any of the idiots that didn't RTFA have blamed Foxnews for this story instead of the actual source, the New Yorker Magazine. *scrolls up*

Yup.

The groups receiving US support include Salafist/Wahhabi Islamists different from Al Qaeda only in their focus on the "near enemy" (corrupt middle eastern regimes) as opposed to the "far enemy" (the USA and Europe). These groups have engaged in bombings of civilian targets within Iran - terrorism by any non-insane definition.

Have we learned nothing from the Afghan war? Don't give money and weapons to Islamist wackjobs. Write it down. Remember it. Islamist wackjobs BAD.

There must be a reason that this has been reported. It seems that there has been a massive upturn in the last few days of general Iran "chatter" in the mainstream media.

You DO know that the U.S government can, in fact, stop a paper from reporting something if it's a matter of National Security(tm)?

They *want* Iran to sweat. It's psyops 101.

We're giving money to the MEK. Our leadership is aiding and abetting terrorism. Weren't we promised that any country that supports terrorism would be swiftly dealt with?

The_OcO:We're giving money to the MEK. Our leadership is aiding and abetting terrorism. Weren't we promised that any country that supports terrorism would be swiftly dealt with?

Not only that, we also harbor terrorists. We are still allowing that farker from Argentina(?) that knocked down the Cuban passenger plane. We really aren't anti-terrorist, we are just anti-terrorist if the victims are Americans.

Yes, just what we want, another destabilized government in the region! I wonder if the next massive crime syndicate will come from the Middle East? If they're not too busy blowing up everyone in suicide bombings.

Quasi-Concious Racist Wordsmith:I suppose you think that 9/11 was our fault too.

I suppose you think we were attacked because they hate our freedom.

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Bunnyhat: If you couldn't figure that out from the next paragraph, well bully for you.

Hence, his screen name.

Generation_D:There are nowhere near enough police and paramilitary in this country to contain everyone who would be motivated to actually put in an anti-war effort if required to do so. And the right wing knows it.


Because you guys put up such a stellar effort back in late 2002 and early 2003. Showed real guts and commitment, what with the horde of protesters encamped in D.C. and every other major city.


/yeah right
//they'll just roll over and take it
///have before, will again