``I'll keep my word to the American people. You can trust me,' McCain said.

All you gotta do is play that and then talk about the Bush tax cuts, or off-shore drilling, or his comments about the war in Iraq, or the things he said pandering to the religious right, or any number of other things that have changed since 2000 when McCain realized he had to be a GOP puppet to become president.

The only candidate I trust is RON PAUL because I heard he once killed a grizzly bear with his bare hands.

eddyatwork: The only candidate I trust is RON PAUL because I heard he once killed a grizzly bear with his bare bear hands.

FTFY

bare hands

bear hands.



i thought the news this week was about bear arms.

It'd sure be nice if we had a functioning FEC ... they might point out how McCain couldn't be trusted.

Doesn't think he could be trusted either.

``And unfortunately, apparently on several items, Senator Obama's word cannot be trusted.'


This coming from the guy who was eyeballs deep into that whole 'Keating Five' mess. Not to mention all the subequent lobbyist/funding scandals that have plagued his career for decades.

Sorry John, but YOU are the one with the credibility problem right now. Not Obama.

why do people think they can suddenly put on a whole new act and everyone is going to magically forget what they stood for before ?

Mordant: why do people think they can suddenly put on a whole new act and everyone is going to magically forget what they stood for before ?

Because it has worked so many times in the past, there are lots of stupid voters out there...and there are crazies like our local McCain supporting Alt that will be posting some kind of obsification below.

They both have credibility problems. McCain isn't going to win anybody over by acting holier-than-thou.

Up until recently, McCain opposed his 'top priority'

FTLA: It's striking the extent to which John McCain's campaign is premised on the deep, unyielding hope that voters aren't paying attention to the campaign at all. It very well might work, but it's kind of annoying to think the man who wants to lead the nation thinks we're all a bunch of ignorant dolts.

I'm going to have to side with McCain. I don't believe Obama when he talks issues -- or Clinton, or McCain, or Romney.

``I'll keep my word to the American people. You can trust me,' McCain said.

Is that the same word you kept with your God and your first wife?


Say it with me you lying piece of crap "President Obama".

You are going to be beaten like a rented mule and I am enjoying every second of it.

``This election is about trust -- trust in people's word,'

Bold words for a serial flip-flopper.

He's probably right. It's not as though he's somehow more trustworthy, though. At least Obama, for all the ways I disagree with him politically, seems to be a more-or-less honest, upstanding guy in his personal life. I couldn't ever see him leaving Michelle from some younger floozy.

Mordant: why do people think they can suddenly put on a whole new act and everyone is going to magically forget what they stood for before ?

They're the same people who can't even set up an email account. Hillary "You Can See It On The YOOTOOBS" Clinton is also one of them.

So the guy isn't taking political welfare from the state and the Republicans are complaining?

slobarnuts: So the guy isn't taking political welfare from the state and the Republicans are complaining?

Isn't it kind of ironic? They're whining because he'll raise more money than them. That's how capitalism works, gents!

Of course Obama can't be trusted. Obama is a serial liar who can't offer details but only offers vague promises and rhetoric. He tries to hide information on himself and silence criticism of himself.

McCain has experience and integrity. You can trust John McCain to mean what he says.

Can you trust Obama on the War?
Can you trust Obama on FISA?
Can you trust Obama to keep his word on campaign financing?

You can't. Obama is a machine creation and a flim-flam man.

Can you trust Obama on the War?

Yes, far more than McCain.


Can you trust Obama to keep his word on campaign financing?

Yes, FARRRRRRRRRRRRRRR more than McCain. Obama never broke his word anyway. He always said he would take public financing only if McCain met with him and they agreed to certain things. On the other hand, McCain already broke campaign financing laws...

McCainDemocrat: blah blah blah

How the hell do you find so much time to waste here?

McCainDemocrat: Of course Obama can't be trusted. Obama is a serial liar who can't offer details but only offers vague promises and rhetoric. He tries to hide information on himself and silence criticism of himself.

McCain has experience and integrity. You can trust John McCain to mean what he says.

Can you trust Obama on the War?
Can you trust Obama on FISA?
Can you trust Obama to keep his word on campaign financing?

You can't. Obama is a machine creation and a flim-flam man.

hahaha right on cue.

bulldg4life: ``I'll keep my word to the American people. You can trust me,' McCain said.

All you gotta do is play that and then talk about the Bush tax cuts, or off-shore drilling, or his comments about the war in Iraq, or the things he said pandering to the religious right, or any number of other things that have changed since 2000 when McCain realized he had to be a GOP puppet to become president.

THIS!


A good many Mccain voters are still basing their decisions on what he did/say back before 2000, while the man himself has taken everything that he was once a maverick about and fully embraced the party line.

Phase One: Find story about McCain
Phase Two: Think of headline, funny or not, that includes the word pancakes
Phase Three: Green light

Wow, very well played Maddogjew.

Here's some McCainDemocrat repellant:

The REAL McCain (Part 1)
The REAL McCain (Part 2)
McCain Owned on Meet the Press

McCainDemocrat: Obama is a machine creation and a flim-flam man.

Then he should be right up your alley.

Dr. Nick Riviera: Phase One: Find story about McCain
Phase Two: Think of headline, funny or not, that includes the word pancakes
Phase Three: Green light

It's funny 'cuz McSame is a blithering flip flopper.

You can trust John McCain to mean what he says.


Like when he says politicans shouldn't pay attention to "agents of intolerance" like Falwell and co then he turns around and campaigns at Falwell's unversity and begs Hagee for an endorsement?

Like when he talks bs about campaign financing, then he breaks campaign financing laws?

Like when he says he wouldn't vote for his own bill?

Like when he says offshore drilling is necessary or when he says offshore drilling doesn't help at all?

Like when he says torture should be illegal then he votes to keep torture legal?

Like when he flip-flops so bad on abortion, even Fox News is surprised? (new window)

Like when he claims lobbyists dont' run his campaign but then... wow, they run his entire campaign?

etc.

etc.

etc.

Face it, McCain doesn't have a shred of integrity in his body and he wouldn't know what a principle was if it crawled up his wrinkly anus and died there.

``I'll keep my word to the American people. You can trust me,' McCain said.

Starting... now!

Bill Frist: You can trust John McCain to mean what he says.

Face it, McCain doesn't have a shred of integrity in his body and he wouldn't know what a principle was if it crawled up his wrinkly anus and died there.

I agree with you, Bill, about politicians and integrity in general. McCain used to have the integrity to resist some of his party's idiotic ideas, but lately he seems to have been pulled into the sewer with the rest of the Republicans.

Still, when I think about Barack Obama's integrity, I'm not completely sold. He spends twenty years with a church that seems to be pretty radical, and when he's criticized about it, Obama bails out.

Maybe it's hopeless to trust the integrity of any politician.

Let's see. Obama is going to finance his campaign with $100.00 contributions and not from the federal government. There has GOT to be something wrong with that, I just can't come up with it right now.
As far as St John goes, can you say "Keating Five". "You can trust me". Right! I bet that is what he said to his sick ex-wife. What a joke.

Do I have my own stalker now?

thamike: a266.ac-images.myspacecdn.com

I'm not quite sure what this pic is supposed to mean, but McCain has much bigger third party problems than Obama.

McCainDemocrat: Of course Obama can't be trusted. Obama is a serial liar who can't offer details but only offers vague promises and rhetoric. He tries to hide information on himself and silence criticism of himself.

McCain has experience and integrity. You can trust John McCain to mean what he says.

Can you trust Obama on the War?
Can you trust Obama on FISA?
Can you trust Obama to keep his word on campaign financing?

You can't. Obama is a machine creation and a flim-flam man.

This reminds me of the time when you tried to claim that McCain had more money than Obama.....

McCain continues to shift with the wind. (new window)

McCain pledged in February 2008 that he would not, under any circumstances, raise taxes. Specifically, McCain was asked if he is a "'read my lips' candidate, no new taxes, no matter what?" referring to George H.W. Bush's 1988 pledge. "No new taxes," McCain responded. Two weeks later, McCain said, "I'm not making a 'read my lips' statement, in that I will not raise taxes."

* McCain is both for and against a "rogue state rollback" as a focus of his foreign policy vision.

* McCain considered and did not consider joining John Kerry's Democratic ticket in 2004.

* In 1998, he championed raising cigarette taxes to fund programs to cut underage smoking, insisting that it would prevent illnesses and provide resources for public health programs. Now, McCain opposes a $0.61-per-pack tax increase, won't commit to supporting a regulation bill he's co-sponsoring, and has hired Philip Morris' former lobbyist as his senior campaign adviser.

* McCain has changed his economic worldview on multiple occasions.

* McCain has changed his mind about a long-term U.S. military presence in Iraq on multiple occasions.

* McCain is both for and against attacking Barack Obama over his former pastor.

* McCain believes Americans are both better and worse off than they were before Bush took office.

* McCain is both for and against earmarks for Arizona.

* McCain believes his endorsement from radical televangelist John Hagee was both a good and bad idea.

* McCain's first mortgage plan was premised on the notion that homeowners facing foreclosure shouldn't be "rewarded" for acting "irresponsibly." His second mortgage plan took largely the opposite position.

* McCain vowed, if elected, to balance the federal budget by the end of his first term. Soon after, he decided he would no longer even try to reach that goal.

* McCain's campaign unveiled a Social Security policy that the senator would implement if elected, which did not include a Bush-like privatization scheme. In March 2008, McCain denounced his own campaign's policy.

* In February 2008, McCain reversed course on prohibiting waterboarding.

* McCain used to champion the Law of the Sea convention, even volunteering to testify on the treaty's behalf before a Senate committee. Now he opposes it.

* McCain was a co-sponsor of the DREAM Act, which would grant legal status to illegal immigrants' kids who graduate from high school. Now he's against it.

* On immigration policy in general, McCain announced in February 2008 that he would vote against his own legislation.

* In 2006, McCain sponsored legislation to require grassroots lobbying coalitions to reveal their financial donors. In 2007, after receiving "feedback" on the proposal, McCain told far-right activist groups that he opposes his own measure.

* McCain said before the war in Iraq, "We will win this conflict. We will win it easily." Four years later, McCain said he knew all along that the war in Iraq war was "probably going to be long and hard and tough."

* McCain said he was the "greatest critic" of Rumsfeld's failed Iraq policy. In December 2003, McCain praised the same strategy as "a mission accomplished." In March 2004, he said, "I'm confident we're on the right course." In December 2005, he said, "Overall, I think a year from now, we will have made a fair amount of progress if we stay the course."

* McCain went from saying he would not support repeal of Roe v. Wade to saying the exact opposite.

* McCain went from saying gay marriage should be allowed, to saying gay marriage shouldn't be allowed.

* McCain criticized TV preacher Jerry Falwell as "an agent of intolerance" in 2002, but then decided to cozy up to the man who said Americans "deserved" the 9/11 attacks.

* McCain used to oppose Bush's tax cuts for the very wealthy, but he reversed course in February.

* On a related note, he said 2005 that he opposed the tax cuts because they were "too tilted to the wealthy." By 2007, he denied ever having said this, and insisted he opposed the cuts because of increased government spending.

* In 2000, McCain accused Texas businessmen Sam and Charles Wyly of being corrupt, spending "dirty money" to help finance Bush's presidential campaign. McCain not only filed a complaint against the Wylys for allegedly violating campaign finance law, he also lashed out at them publicly. In April, McCain reached out to the Wylys for support.

* McCain supported a major campaign-finance reform measure that bore his name. In June 2007, he abandoned his own legislation.

* McCain opposed a holiday to honor Martin Luther King, Jr., before he supported it.

* McCain was against presidential candidates campaigning at Bob Jones University before he was for it.

* McCain was anti-ethanol. Now he's pro-ethanol.

* McCain was both for and against state promotion of the Confederate flag.

* McCain decided in 2000 that he didn't want anything to do with former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, believing he "would taint the image of the 'Straight Talk Express.'" Kissinger is now the Honorary Co-Chair for his presidential campaign in New York.

Now, it's worth noting that there are worse qualities in a presidential candidate than changing one's mind about a policy matter or two. McCain has been in Congress for decades; he's bound to shift now and then on various controversies.

But therein lies the point - McCain was consistent on most of these issues, right up until he started running for president, at which point he conveniently abandoned practically every position he used to hold. The problem isn't just the incessant flip-flops; it's the shameless pandering and hollow convictions behind the incessant flip-flops.

As Josh Marshall recently noted, "McCain is absolutely gung-ho and certain that he's right about whatever his position and 'principles' are at the given moment. But they change repeatedly."



That's pancakes you CAN believe in.

/in which you can believe
//in which you may believe

Wow! A politician says something bad about his opponent! If only there was a website devoted to "not news" where we could get enraged about these tactics...


/(gobama)

scrufferdog: There has GOT to be something wrong with that, I just can't come up with it right now

The amount of time you have to spend whoring for money shoots through the roof when you have to raise it in small increments?

Though to be fair, Obama has less of a problem with that because of the enthusiasm he's generated. Every so often that will happen. For most politicians, though, individual donation limits just means they have to whore themselves out more, not less. It's like imposing a price cap on prostitution. Then the prostitutes just have to work harder.

Churchill2004: I'm not quite sure what this pic is supposed to mean, but McCain has much bigger third party problems than Obama.

That's exactly what it's supposed to mean.

thamike: Churchill2004: I'm not quite sure what this pic is supposed to mean, but McCain has much bigger third party problems than Obama.

That's exactly what it's supposed to mean.

But his problem isn't Nader. I don't get it.

McCainDemocrat: Of course Obama can't be trusted. Obama is a serial liar who can't offer details but only offers vague promises and rhetoric. He tries to hide information on himself and silence criticism of himself.

McCain has experience and integrity. You can trust John McCain to mean what he says.

Can you trust Obama on the War?
Can you trust Obama on FISA?
Can you trust Obama to keep his word on campaign financing?

You can't. Obama is a machine creation and a flim-flam man.

Well, to go along with what you say, we'd have to trust YOU (new window), so...



Maddogjew, you are hereby accused of sorcery.

Churchill2004: But his problem isn't Nader. I don't get it.

Well I actually made it a long time ago, in reference to an article about how Nader is much more of a threat to Republicans than Democrats this time around. I just don't feel like GIMPing Bob Barr right now. But here's Ron Paul, just for sh*ts and giggles:



/just fooling around on a Sunday afternoon

rufus-t-firefly: Maddogjew, you are hereby accused of sorcery.

We all knew he (or his other) would be here. I just lucked out on the timing.

thamike: Well I actually made it a long time ago, in reference to an article about how Nader is much more of a threat to Republicans than Democrats this time around.

That was a fairly stupid thing for some one to say. In reality, Nader won't be hurting any one this time around, but I find it implausible, to say the least, that potential Obama voters wouldn't like him a lot more than potential McCain voters.

thamike: /just fooling around on a Sunday afternoon

Fair enough. I was just somewhat befuddled by a pic that didn't make any sense.

So Clench Million? Do I have a personal internet stalker now?

McCainDemocrat: Of course Obama can't be trusted. Obama is a serial liar who can't offer details but only offers vague promises and rhetoric. He tries to hide information on himself and silence criticism of himself.

McCain has experience and integrity. You can trust John McCain to mean what he says.

Can you trust Obama on the War?
Can you trust Obama on FISA?
Can you trust Obama to keep his word on campaign financing?

You can't. Obama is a machine creation and a flim-flam man.

Hahahahaha.

/Finally adding you to the ignore list.

Churchill2004: That was a fairly stupid thing for some one to say. In reality, Nader won't be hurting any one this time around, but I find it implausible, to say the least, that potential Obama voters wouldn't like him a lot more than potential McCain voters.

It wasn't about how he will "steal votes." It was about the fact that he was making poignant attacks against McCain at the time which could influence independents a lot more than his generic rebuke of the Democratic party.

While changing stances on policy issues is certainly worthy of journalistic coverage on all sides, an article actually trying to be informative would at least quote Sen. Obama on the reasons he gave for changing his mind, instead of 3-4 identical quotes by Democratic Party operatives accusing Sen. McCain of also engaging in such behavior.