Ten Million Less Obama Voters

having seen the clips of people from the democratic primary for people from West Virginia, panic seems to be an acceptable course of action.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let Florida, Michigan, and Ohio render these idiots obsolete.

/southerner

doyner: PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let Florida, Michigan, and Ohio render these idiots obsolete.

/southerner

Jesus.

You ARE optimistic.

CtrlAltDelete: Jesus.

You ARE optimistic.

*sigh*

Yeah. The "South" isn't the problem. There'r racists in them thar hills.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let Florida, Michigan, and Ohio render these idiots obsolete.

/southerner

HA-HA.. A Southerner citing Florida and calling Apalachians stupid.

/Zero chance Florida is swinging Democrat.
//Floridians are the bottom of the barrel -- at least Apalachians know they are stupid.. Floridians tend to think they are rocket scientists while being amazingly stupid.
///Floridian

Legalized moonshine? In my country?

/it's more Appalachian than you think.

submitter: Appalachian voters could be key to 2008 presidential race



Uh, no. This race isn't going to be any where near close enough for any one state/voter bloc to be "key".

_/Barr!

I for one and sick and tired of Husseins.

I'll vote for whoever pronounces it correctly...

App-a-lay-shin
not
App-a-latch-in

all the good names are gone: App-a-lay-shin
not
App-a-latch-in

Isn't "Appalachia", as in the region, pronounced the other way? "App-a-latch-a" is the way I've always heard it from natives.

Churchill2004: submitter: Appalachian voters could be key to 2008 presidential race



Uh, no. This race isn't going to be any where near close enough for any one state/voter bloc to be "key".

/Barr!

No, but they could be a crucial voting bloc in a number of swing states. For the first time in over 25 years, North Carolina and Virginia are swing states. Even northern Georgia is in play - especially if Bob Barr can maintain his 6% of the vote.

UNC_Samurai: For the first time in over 25 years, North Carolina and Virginia are swing states. Even northern Georgia is in play

He could easily win without a single Southern state.

/that doesn't always work out too well, though

all the good names are gone:
App-a-lay-shin
not
App-a-latch-in

Here's from dictionary dot com:
Ap·pa·la·chi·a (new window)
Pronunciation Key [ap-uh-ley-chee-uh, -chuh, -lach-ee-uh, -lach-uh]

I live here and say app-a-latch-a and app-a-la-chin. But I'm not a native. I think it's a matter of preference.

TFA: Instead, most Americans seem to see Appalachia through the twin stereotypes of tragedy (miners buried alive) and farce (Jed Clampett)

I don't think the Clampetts weren't from the Apps.

/they certainly fit the stereotype though

...don't think the Clampetts weren't were from the Apps... durr

soze: I for one and sick and tired of Husseins.

That woman was all kinds of scary. I can't imagine how long it took to find someone like that, though I suspect it took either a very long or short period of time.

Neurochemist: HA-HA.. A Southerner citing Florida and calling Apalachians stupid.

/Zero chance Florida is swinging Democrat.
//Floridians are the bottom of the barrel -- at least Apalachians know they are stupid.. Floridians tend to think they are rocket scientists while being amazingly stupid.
///Floridian

Your reading comprehension is sub-par at best. I am NOT a Floridian. I just maintained my voter registration because there it might actually make a difference.

Try again.

And I never called anyone "stupid." Racist, yes, stupid, no.

doyner
I am NOT a Floridian.

Exhibit 1:
A Southerner citing Florida and calling Apalachians stupid.

At what point the above sentence was I accusing you of being from Florida?

And I never called anyone "stupid." Racist, yes, stupid, no.

Exhibit 2:
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let Florida, Michigan, and Ohio render these idiots obsolete.


...Yet -- my reading comprehension is in question? Untangle your panties, it wasn't a personal attack, it was a friggin joke.

Neurochemist: Exhibit 1:
A Southerner citing Florida and calling Apalachians stupid.

At what point the above sentence was I accusing you of being from Florida?

Fair enough. My apologies.

Exhibit 2:

...Yet -- my reading comprehension is in question? Untangle your panties, it wasn't a personal attack, it was a friggin joke.

I could split hairs on the idiocy of racism, but you're right. It was a silly overreaction.

I do have a little hope for Florida, but not too much. At least Florida's votes are sometimes close. What is NOT close is the voting trend which is visible throughout Appalachia if you were to look at polling results by county.

Again, you're right. I was standing on my "Jump to Conclusions" mat.

Damn, I can almost hear it from here.

Obama Campaign: "Oh shi..."

I guess the paragraph about the mobile dentist might be the most important part of the article. This is a really tough test of American democracy. Can the candidates even get the attention of the poorest voters in America, who live the farthest away from wealth and amenities common in other states? I agree with the submitter! They are so alienated that appealing to them in an election is cause for panic. Obama's race might not be all that important if he can just connect with them on some practical level. Dentistry, even. These are the Americans who would benefit the most from not having to buy medical/dental insurance to get their teeth looked at. That is, if the article is accurate.

doyner: PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let Florida, Michigan, and Ohio render these idiots obsolete.

Idiots? Are you from the compassionate, intelligent left?

I doubt the election will come down to appalachia, but if somehow it does it would benefit McCain.

Florida, Ohio are more likely to hold the key....as usual.

If the voters of appalachia are not voting for McCain in a landslide, then Obama will easily clinch the presidency.

Churchill2004: all the good names are gone: App-a-lay-shin
not
App-a-latch-in

Isn't "Appalachia", as in the region, pronounced the other way? "App-a-latch-a" is the way I've always heard it from natives.

Southerners don't use a short 'A' sound when a long 'A' will do just as well.

I don't understand how it would be pronounced appalaychian.. Shouldn't there be an i or a y beside the a to elongate it like that?

Barak Obanjo will take Appalachia.

doyner: PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let Florida, Michigan, and Ohio render these idiots obsolete.

/southerner

Holy Crap! Someone's willing to put the outcome of election in the hands of Detroit?!

/Kuame in '12! - Beer's on him!
//Lives too damn close to Detroit

Churchill2004: all the good names are gone: App-a-lay-shin
not
App-a-latch-in

Isn't "Appalachia", as in the region, pronounced the other way? "App-a-latch-a" is the way I've always heard it from natives.

Are you really willing to believe things you hear from natives of Appalachia?

3_Butt_Cheeks: doyner: PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let Florida, Michigan, and Ohio render these idiots obsolete.

Idiots? Are you from the compassionate, intelligent left?

I doubt the election will come down to appalachia, but if somehow it does it would benefit McCain.

Florida, Ohio are more likely to hold the key....as usual.

Just because someone is an idiot, and you notice it, doesn't mean you hate them, or have no compassion for them. And, if you notice they're idiots, it probably does mean you have some intelligence.

If the left behaved otherwise, you would just accuse them of Political Correctness and vilify them (sorry for using vilify, you can look it up.) for that.

The Beacon Man: No tolerance. No relativism. No inclusion. No sympathy. No diversity.

It's a shame you have no idea what you're talking about and it's even doubtful that understand the definition of the words you use because addressing anything you post seems to end up an exercise in insipidity.

The Beacon Man: Only hate.

As I used to tell you when you were using your AfterLunchDeficitDisorder screen name, never confuse contempt with hatred. While they may be similar they are very different emotions.

The Beacon Man: /There's no hate like liberal hateTM

There is no hate like the kind bigots feed on.
Enjoy your rapidly increasing irrelevant views.

KeatingFive: Just because someone is an idiot, and you notice it, doesn't mean you hate them, or have no compassion for them. And, if you notice they're idiots, it probably does mean you have some intelligence.

If the left behaved otherwise, you would just accuse them of Political Correctness and vilify them (sorry for using vilify, you can look it up.) for that.

Somehow I don't think the poster went to appalachia and used honest observation to determine people there are idiots.

I am not an empty political shill and simply accuse him of X, Y or Z for the mere purpose of disagreeing because you may be on the left or right.

Neurochemist: .. Floridians tend to think they are rocket scientists while being amazingly stupid.
///Floridian

I assume you were thinking of the fact that the launch-pad and a lot of the engineering for NASA is in FL when you wrote this, so well played, sir

Interesting little known fact: The Banjo as an instrument originated in Africa and was brought to the US by African Slaves. (new window) Once you think of this and look at it, you realize it has a few distinct differences from any other European instruments and sort of looks like a djembe with the bottom cut off and some strings across it.

Also interesting I think: What to many people becomes just some kind of hillbilly music actually differentiates into 5 or 6 different kinds of music, such as bluegrass, mountain music, old-time, folk, and a few others I can't remember right now at this early hour. It also shares certain rhythms and ideas with both blues and jazz. This music, although associated with intolerance and racism today, is actually pretty steeped in this rich cultural history, and in fact most of today's practitioners of bluegrass music are very progressive, cut from the folk music mold.

TMYK.

I don't really have much to share, but I like West Virginia. It's a beautiful state full of delicious biscuits.

I love how the fluffy city folk hate hillbillies.

Churchill2004: all the good names are gone: App-a-lay-shin
not
App-a-latch-in

Isn't "Appalachia", as in the region, pronounced the other way? "App-a-latch-a" is the way I've always heard it from natives.

The varieties of the word "Appalachia" come down to one simple variable; How many teeth does the word being spoken pass through?

/your welcome

Help-Im-Sober: The varieties of the word "Appalachia" come down to one simple variable; How many teeth does the word being spoken pass through?

/your yer welcome

Sorry, pet peeve.

FTA: "Paddle faster, I hear banjos."

After years of stoking rural hatred of urban and suburban folk, I suspect the GOPers are going to get what's been coming for them. Once again, McCain et. al are going to run on a platform of demonizing people from big cities as being godless liberal wimps who want to make your children gay. You can only stoke regional tensions so much before it backfires.

Why is the "key" demographic always inherently predisposed towards Republicans?

We've had NASCAR Dads, Security Moms and now Appalachian voters? Give me a break.

Quick! Poor and undereducated white people want to try to affect the governing process, disenfranchise them now dammit!

Oh, hey, here's a few billion for the ghettos. No, you don't have to make your kids go to school. That would be selling out on your rich heritage. And we're all good with you continuing to blame every problem on whitey, just remember who gave you this sack of money when you're in that voting booth.

They talking about the "Scotch Irish" voters that Webb keeps talking about?

All McCain has to do is win the same states Bush won in 04 and he's the Prez. Since the Jews in Florida don't like Obamer cuz he isn't perceived as a strong supporter of Israel, Florida's in the bag for McCain; Ohio has a high population of the aforementioned hillbillies who will most likely vote for McCain and not the "colored guy."
It's really too bad none or our ballots will have "None of the Above" as a choice.
Suckers.

Lots of bigoted culturalists in here.

Everyone has the same right to vote and be represented.

Euell Gibbons: I love how the fluffy city folk hate hillbillies.

I reread the entire thread and didn't see a single person attacking hillbillies, I do see people concerned about bigots who will pick their next president solely because of his race.

I live right on the edge of Appalachia and was originally born in Boston. I got to watch hundreds of loving mothers throw rocks at buses full of scared children who were forced to be bussed into white schools.

So, if anyone is to be painted with that wide brush you're sporting, how about going after the bigots?

swarmspawn: Quick! Poor and undereducated white people want to try to affect the governing process, disenfranchise them now dammit!

I think I may love you.

I do not like living here (TN). I don't like a lot of the people for a number of reasons, but I dislike the attitudes of outsiders towards this region even more, particularly as many choose not to ever see what it's like for themselves or go solely for purposes of reinforcing their prejudices. These same people hold southerners, particularly Appalachians, beneath contempt, wish for their disenfranchisement/ destruction, and then turn around and try to claim they are the tolerant ones.

michaeld5: All McCain has to do is win the same states Bush won in 04 and he's the Prez. Since the Jews in Florida don't like Obamer cuz he isn't perceived as a strong supporter of Israel, Florida's in the bag for McCain; Ohio has a high population of the aforementioned hillbillies who will most likely vote for McCain and not the "colored guy."
It's really too bad none or our ballots will have "None of the Above" as a choice.
Suckers.

Brilliant political analysis there, have you considered sending that resume to Fox News?

Good God that was one splendid pile of dumb there!

Plate of Crazy: swarmspawn: Quick! Poor and undereducated white people want to try to affect the governing process, disenfranchise them now dammit!

I think I may love you.

I do not like living here (TN). I don't like a lot of the people for a number of reasons, but I dislike the attitudes of outsiders towards this region even more, particularly as many choose not to ever see what it's like for themselves or go solely for purposes of reinforcing their prejudices. These same people hold southerners, particularly Appalachians, beneath contempt, wish for their disenfranchisement/ destruction, and then turn around and try to claim they are the tolerant ones.

You chose a most apt name.
Kudos.

Newsweek's headline: The Voters of Appalachia... A - Are Hicks, B - Are Hillbillies, C - Are Rednecks, D - Don't appreciate where you're going with this

When did Newsweek get all farky-snarky?

Random Reality Check: You chose a most apt name.
Kudos.

WTF?

Prejudice against southerners is the last acceptable bigotry in society. No bigotry should be acceptable.

And disliking people =/= prejudice. I interact with them on a daily basis and have grounds for saying, "I don't like that people here do X, Y, and Z." That's a far cry from, "We should've just let them secede," or calling them names.

Denial_of_Death: Newsweek's headline: The Voters of Appalachia... A - Are Hicks, B - Are Hillbillies, C - Are Rednecks, D - Don't appreciate where you're going with this

When did Newsweek get all farky-snarky?

I get the sense that "Appalachian" has become a PC term for hick, hillbilly, redneck, even though scores of people meeting that criteria live all over the country.