Look, I'm just glad they caught the real culprits...um, what? You're shiatting me.

I don't know how much generosity that i can take
Until i leave a trail of bodies lying in my wake
How many times do i lose my mind 'til i realize
Give me the high hat and you think that i should compromise?

As with the capture and trial of Osama bin Laden, the swift and efficient solving of the anthrax case is further proof of how the effectively the regime of Beloved & Respected Comrade-Leader Bush has prosecuted the War on Terrorism and made us all safer.

Huzzah!

"The United States does not admit to any violation of the Privacy Act and continues to deny all liability in connection with Dr. Hatfill's claims."

I want a law banning settlements where the government pays out and denies liability.

I want another law requiring dismissal of government employees found legally responsible for major rights violations.

ZAZ: I want another law requiring dismissal mandatory five year minimum prison sentences for government employees found legally responsible for major rights violations.

FTFY. Doubles automatically for any law enforcement officer and bad prosecutor/judge.

I was reading some one's blog who was talking about how they'd invited Hatfill to give a commencement address but he turned it down on advice of his lawyer. I'm sure he's got a fascinating story to tell.

The only hope you have if you're an innocent person being railroaded is media attention. This guy got it automatically because of the nature of the case. If the Duke guys hadn't got, they'd be rotting in prison right now. Have no doubt that there are tens of thousands of innocent people in prison in this country. We've completely killed the idea of a grand jury as anything more than a farce, and judges as often as not are all-but-openly on the prosecution's side, forbidding (legal) appeals for jury nullification and certify proven frauds as "experts" for the prosecution.

The Innocence Project is one of those groups I send a check to once a year. I highly suggest any one else looking to give money to a good charity gives them a good look.

$5.82 million will help buy a lot of postage!

Well, it should restore his.

To make my point about media attention- this guy got $5.8 million even though he (if I recall correctly) never spent any time in prison.

This guy, who spent 24 years in prison on a wrongful rape conviction, got $150,000- just $6,300 per year in prison. Never heard of him? That's why he only got $150,000.

/granted, state vs. Federal, but still...

Churchill2004: The Innocence Project is one of those groups I send a check to once a year. I highly suggest any one else looking to give money to a good charity gives them a good look.

I gotta second you on this one; wrongful convictions are a blight on our legal system and must be remedied.

Tabatha Static: Huzzah!

I think there's a good soundtrack to that picture:

But what a fool believes she sees
No wise man has the power to reason away
What seems to be
Is always better than nothing
And nothing at all keeps sending her...

yeah, coulda done that one better

This money should come directly from Bush's secret account rather than from the taxpayers.

Tabatha Static: As with the capture and trial of Osama bin Laden, the swift and efficient solving of the anthrax case is further proof of how the effectively the regime of Beloved & Respected Comrade-Leader Bush has prosecuted the War on Terrorism and made us all safer.

Huzzah!

Oh. So, in the interest of swiftness and efficiency, you support doing away with hindrances such as restraints on search and seizure, and forcing suspects to talk in custody without lawyers to solve the anthrax case?

The invasion of Pakistan to capture bin Laden? The capture and forced questioning of Pakistani villagers in the tribal regions to help find him? Outsourcing ass-whippings of captured al Qaeda suspects by countries such as Saudi Arabia, to extract info from them?

It's been proven to my satisfaction that Lt. Col. Philip Zack (who happens to be Jewish) mailed the anthrax.
They first tried to frame some Arabs.
They they tried to frame Hatfill because he was born in what's now Zimbabwe.

Dear U.S. Justice Department,
feel free to wrongly blame me for anything, I need the money....

Im still not convinced the guy didn't do it.

@mama's_tasty_food: you're sarcasm detector is broken.

Just another in a long, long line of failures by our govt. and another symbol of the gross incompetence of the leaders we elected.

But the majority of people in this country are complete and utter morons evidenced by the fact that we voted for this administration not once, but twice(well, maybe just once). As such, we really don't deserved any better.

Man, this was domestic terrorism on an unprecedented scale. People were afraid of their own goddamn mail! And I remember that poor postal worker who called 911 saying he has all the symptoms of anthrax--and he died shortly after. (They played the tape on the news. It was very sad.)

This should have been priority numero dos after Osama bin Laden.

But what happened? The gov just let it slide apparently. This is the kind of thing that gives fuel to conspiracy theorists.

projectshave: @mama's_tasty_food: you're sarcasm detector is broken.

I am amused by your screen name. (Your profile was a little scary)

The truth is revealed here:
http://web.archive.org/web/20050211195505/www.anthraxattacks.net/the-anthax-my st ery-solved-sources.htm
http://web.archive.org/web/20050211195505/www.anthraxattacks.net/the-anthax-my st ery-solved-sources.htm

AlphaNumericus: The truth is revealed here:
http://web.archive.org/web/20050211195505/www.anthraxattacks.net/the-anthax-myst ery-solved-sources.htm
http://web.archive.org/web/20050211195505/www.anthraxattacks.net/the-anthax-myst ery-solved-sources.htm

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What good is it to us?

Sorry, I messed up the url:
Anthrax spelled correctly

Do you think that the anthrax guy(s) and the people who tainted those Tylenol bottles back in the 80s are the same person?

$5.8 million I guess that makes him the man?

as one who has been inoculated for anthrax, and was paid to do it, im getting a kick..yada yada.
found a program for the cdc/military to produce antibody's for anthrax, im paid $100.00 dollars for each shot i receive and $100.00 for each pint of my blood serum.
yeah im a drug producing human lab/test subject!
my kids worry the government is going to make me a zombie..

Oh fark, that's right, Anthrax attacks. I've been so caught up the last 6 years worrying about bombs in apartment buildings, malls, terrorists taking over high schools or blowing up my local grain elevator that I actually forgot about the other actual terrorist attack since 9-11.

I love how this story was hyped for months. Then as soon as word of government involvement came out the story went all +++++no carrier++

Now that I'm in a 2001-2002 mindstate. I'm also wondering if they ever fully explained why that plane crashed in Queens a few months after 9/11. I've just been so worried by imaginary things that I forgot about the real ones.

mama's_tasty_foods: Tabatha Static: As with the capture and trial of Osama bin Laden, the swift and efficient solving of the anthrax case is further proof of how the effectively the regime of Beloved & Respected Comrade-Leader Bush has prosecuted the War on Terrorism and made us all safer.

Huzzah!

Oh. So, in the interest of swiftness and efficiency, you support doing away with hindrances such as restraints on search and seizure, and forcing suspects to talk in custody without lawyers to solve the anthrax case?

The invasion of Pakistan to capture bin Laden? The capture and forced questioning of Pakistani villagers in the tribal regions to help find him? Outsourcing ass-whippings of captured al Qaeda suspects by countries such as Saudi Arabia, to extract info from them?

I'm sorry, if you think the US does not do these things, then try to 'frame' them on other people (or refuse to admit they happen, ever).

I like my country, but I also know people do evil things sometimes. Like a police officer being forced to shoot someone on his beat; it's not something he's going to brag about, but it's necessary.

AlphaNumericus: Sorry, I messed up the url:
Anthrax spelled correctly

Well, for those without time to read your link, I can sum it up as follows: it lists many reasons to suspect Hatfill- some of them weak; lists his past disturbing association with white-supremacist groups in Africa; and (wait for it) suggests that Jews tried to frame him for the anthrax attacks.

My favorite part of the whole fiasco was when the FBI ran over his foot then instead of the police charging the FBI with anything they charged him with "walking to create a hazard."

From Wikipedia:

In an embarrassing incident, FBI agents trailing Hatfill in a motor vehicle ran over his foot when he attempted to approach them in May, 2003. Police responding to the incident did not cite the driver, but issued Hatfill a citation for "walking to create a hazard." He and his attorneys fought the ticket, but, after listening for nearly a half-hour to the officer who issued the citation and to Hatfill's attorneys, a hearing officer upheld the ticket and ordered Hatfill to pay the requisite $5 fine.

mama's_tasty_foods: AlphaNumericus: Sorry, I messed up the url:
Anthrax spelled correctly

Well, for those without time to read your link, I can sum it up as follows: it lists many reasons to suspect Hatfill- some of them weak; lists his past disturbing association with white-supremacist groups in Africa; and (wait for it) suggests that Jews tried to frame him for the anthrax attacks.

Actually it said Israel. Way to broad brush any suspicion of Israel into antisemitism though. That has never been done before.

Mission Accomplished! Oh wait ... never mind.

"The United States does not admit to any violation of the Privacy Act and continues to deny all liability in connection with Dr. Hatfill's claims," Justice Department spokesman Brian Roehrkasse said in response to the settlement.

Do you admit to being lying, two-faced, illegally operating cocksuckers who think they can just say "nuh uh! Just have some money and go!" for eternity?

You know, as saddening as it will be to watch this country slide into the abyss as the oppressed, poor and ill served just get fed up and start burning shiat down, it will be no small encouragement to know that somebody will save a few gallons of 96 octane for the entire federal bureaucracy. Justice, you shiatstains, is not a department.

It is a exponent of honest and fair governance wherein the notion that truth, accuracy and the freedoms and welfare of the innocent are held sacrosanct. You motherfarkers just shove chow in the maw of the prison system and slip a few bucks out of the pork barrel to anybody who barks long and loud enough and you can't just shaft them or shut them up. The last shred of acuity you seem to have is that you're smart enough to realise that it's still important to shut honest people up, or you could end up on food stamps. Godspeed the entire federal bureaucratic infrastructure to the welfare line. Give my regards to McCarthy's ghost.

Sign me the fark up!

AlphaNumericus: Sorry, I messed up the url:
Anthrax spelled correctly

Thanks, I wasted about forty five minutes while eating only to learn at the end that the article was basically skinheads blaming the Jews. Nice.

Wow. Because I do volunteer work with homeless individuals, I have a lot of police contact. I'm picked up by the local police all the time for another woman's warrants. I typically spend between 6-8 hours in a freezing cold holding cell while they figure out I'm not *that* Sylvi and our birthdays are five days apart. (And our fingerprints don't match. And she's Hispanic and I'm Scandinavian.) The most I've ever gotten out of it is a pair of socks.

~Syl
/has a lot of jail issue socks

Look up info. on Hatfill. He fits the profile of a Tim McVeigh style domestic terrorist perfectly except for his above average intelligence. He's a hardcore racist who assisted the UDI regime in Rhodesia. He may or may not be guilty but with a history like that it's no surprise the government went after him. The real problem is when politics drives the hunt for a suspect. Ask Richard Jewell.

/or not he's dead now.

earlm: He may or may not be guilty but with a history like that it's no surprise the government went after him

"Being a douchebag" is not a crime.

Churchill2004: "Being a douchebag" is not a crime.

Sadly.

If it were, Bush would be in Gitmo and Cheney would be pestering people for convertible debentures and spare change for gas money to try and buy his company back from asset seizures divisions of the FBI.

Oh, wait.. that would be unjust. See? Get it? How much does Cheney have? How much of it was amassed from federal contracts while he was in office? Does the word "hypocrisy" mean anything?

that's allot of money to give away when you still think you did nothing wrong. I'm just glad it's the DoJs' money.

/Oh wait

bunner: Sadly

You want the government to have the power to decide who is and isn't a douchebag?

bunner: If it were, Bush would be in Gitmo and Cheney would be pestering people for convertible debentures and spare change for gas money to try and buy his company back from asset seizures divisions of the FBI

No, if it were, you'd be in prison for "being a douchebag" by criticizing the government.

Churchill2004: No, if it were, you'd be in prison for "being a douchebag" by criticizing the government.

:- /

Lemme get this straight... you're against criticizing the government? Is my irony meter broken? Are you pro douchebag?

So any Farkers have any ideas/theories about how was behind the attacks?

I remember this scaring me. I was living in Manhattan during 9/11 and wasn't scared so much as saddened by those events. But I have to say that the anthrax stuff and bio-terrorism was on my mind a lot when I was riding the train.

He sold off too light.

I would have shot the punk responsible, and let the jury decide.

One man like me on the panel and yer deadlocked, baby.

The_OcO: Actually it said Israel. Way to broad brush any suspicion of Israel into antisemitism though.

Yes, just because the article names Israel as a terrorist state, it can't possibly be true.

coco ebert: So any Farkers have any ideas/theories about how was behind the attacks?

Yes. A Jewish fellow named Zack (see the link above.)

coco ebert: So any Farkers have any ideas/theories about how was behind the attacks?

I remember this scaring me. I was living in Manhattan during 9/11 and wasn't scared so much as saddened by those events. But I have to say that the anthrax stuff and bio-terrorism was on my mind a lot when I was riding the train.

I've never seen one Goddamned thing happen in the western world, of any note, since I was born, that didn't involve keeping a large amount of the populace from focusing on a large amount of money or power either being kept where it is, or rolling from one destination to another, sans publicity. Tautological economies.

Sometimes it's an inside job, sometimes it's just hatchet men from another mob, trying to muscle in, but if you got something of value, somebody, somehwere will pull some pretty mean shiat to get it.

Well said, bunner.

AlphaNumericus: Sorry, I messed up the url:
Anthrax spelled correctly

"Israel had prior knowledge of the planned attacks on September 11."

Stopped reading there. Go peddle your BS somewhere else.

The sad facts of the matter, widely available in any historic reference material, are that, by and large, the human race has exhibited a pathetic degree of innate skills when trying to create systems of governance or commerce that are motivated or sustained by ethics and concern for the well being of the governed.

We keep starting off with a bang, turning the lessons of history into propaganda, ("That was those FOOLISH, OLD PEOPLE OF YORE! WE are better!") and ending with a lot of be-headings, fires, farked up architecture or police states.

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