Nice headline, but you can still smoke grass and hash. Just no tobacco. So no story.

Two Dogs Farking: Nice headline, but you can still smoke grass and hash. Just no tobacco. So no story.

It looks like the Mods disagree:

will post to Main on Sat, 28 Jun 2008 at 1:22 PM

Good headline.

So you can smoke weed, but the tobacco is banned? heh.

Have they even thought about this policy?

King Something: It looks like the Mods disagree:

Yeah, this is Fark - who cares about accuracy anyway.

The epic headline excuses the total inaccuracy. Now, to see how many post based just off the headline and without ready any of the early posts...

Two Dogs Farking: Yeah, this is Fark - who cares about accuracy anyway.

Exactly. NANNY STATE

Two Dogs Farking: Yeah, this is Fark - who cares about accuracy anyway.

This is Fark. Why let the facts get in the way of a killer headline?

Forced Perspective: The epic headline excuses the total inaccuracy. Now, to see how many post based just off the headline and without ready any of the early posts...


FTA: But that still leaves coffee shops and their customers in a bind. Dutch and other European marijuana users traditionally smoke pot in fat, cone-shaped joints mixed with tobacco.

Yeah, it would be a shame if someone posted without reading the article.

Thank God, according to the DEA they don't even realize they are destroying their civilization with these evil drugs.

Who in their right mind dilutes marijuana with tobacco? I always had a hard stance on that: no tobacco in my doobies. EVER.

Yes, sometimes I had to roll one only for me and smoke it on my own.

Being as I would be a visitor to their fine country, I smoke mine without tobacco. So I am getting... kick... yadda.

However, the Dutch Government arresting those that grow pot is making it tougher for the Cofee Shops to get the dope. Boy, sounds to me like the headline might have had something to do with the article after all.

What a farking joke. Have Health Ministry officials ever been in any of the shops? It's not like a packed bar where at least fifteen cigarette are blazing at any given time. The air is not acrid. Public health and safety is not at risk. Public protection run amuck is all it is.

Anyone who thinks you smoke pot in a hooka has obviously never smoked pot before.

I love it when the headline and the story have nothing to do with each other.

I could be a modmin. I, too, can pick stories without reading/comprehending them.

Hey, at least this way you can use their shop vapourizers and save your lungs while you're at it... right?

/trying to look on the bright side
//LOVES Amsterdam

The Dutch government, currently led by a conservative coalition with a religious bent, is slowly squeezing back the number of coffee shops by not renewing licenses when shops close.

That sounds familiar, it's anti-freedom to vote people like that into government, anywhere in the world.

The developed world seems to take a couple steps forward, a couple more back.

I live in amsterdam so I am getting a kick out of these replies.. actually not really since the headline is so horribly misleading.

Props to subby for Spyker reference

Macular Degenerate: Anyone who thinks you smoke pot in a hooka has obviously never smoked pot before.

I smoke pot in my hookah all the time, mixed with the shisha of course.

/and to all above post HOOKAH is the proper spelling :)

I fail to see anything sad to this story.

ummmmm....what?

+1

American Pie used to be my favorite song. I could sing the entire thing when I was 6. :)

"Without coffee shops, he said, "a little bit of Amsterdam will die.""

If they get rid of the coffee shops after cracking down on the red light district, there's going to be no reason whatsoever for going to Amsterdam.

The Netherlands is the liberal/leftist/left-libertarian version of Mecca. Every liberal/leftist/left-libertarian should make the pilgrimage once in their life.

Well, seeing as how nicotine sticks to anything and doesn't let go, I can see why the ban.

patrick767: So you can smoke weed, but the tobacco is banned? heh.

Have they even thought about this policy?



Meh, they're just trying to be like California. Tobacco is illegal, but hey, feel free to snort your weight in cocaine.

a little bit of freedom just died

rrahrrahrrah: Who in their right mind dilutes marijuana with tobacco? I always had a hard stance on that: no tobacco in my doobies. EVER.

You, sir, are an amateur pot smoker.

Tobacco in a joint makes it burn better, you don't have to use a lighter constantly.
Also, a joint should have a 'tip' (piece of rolled up thick paper) and no weed in the bit just before the tip so you don't throw any away (no messing around with a roach clip).

/Dutch, so really getting a kick out of this thread.

Dampkring is a must if you visit Amsterdam. The artwork is worth checking out.

I can see this well be hard for them to enforce. At least they said they wont be checking coffee shops much. It makes them not as retarded so other countries.

/eyeing US, UK.

BorgDrone: rrahrrahrrah: Who in their right mind dilutes marijuana with tobacco? I always had a hard stance on that: no tobacco in my doobies. EVER.

You, sir, are an amateur pot smoker.

Tobacco in a joint makes it burn better, you don't have to use a lighter constantly.
Also, a joint should have a 'tip' (piece of rolled up thick paper) and no weed in the bit just before the tip so you don't throw any away (no messing around with a roach clip).

/Dutch, so really getting a kick out of this thread.

Please, tell us more wise sage.

Great. Now there's a song I won't be getting out of my head anytime soon.

I Swear, Officer, It's Only Marijuana! Not a tobacco cigarett.

!!!Threadjack Alert!!!



Can any Farker in Amsterdam identify this pub by the decor? I've been trying to track this place down for a future visit. I can remember its layout but can't remember its location.

I'm going in a month. Pancakes and pot a great combo.

I've never understood why people waste half the herby goodness by sticking it in their mouth and setting it on fire. It doesn't take much culinary flair to create some tasty snacks that will get you seriously mellow for the whole evening. You can't beat a nice THC infused guacamole.

BorgDrone: rrahrrahrrah: Who in their right mind dilutes marijuana with tobacco? I always had a hard stance on that: no tobacco in my doobies. EVER.

You, sir, are an amateur pot smoker.

Tobacco in a joint makes it burn better, you don't have to use a lighter constantly.
Also, a joint should have a 'tip' (piece of rolled up thick paper) and no weed in the bit just before the tip so you don't throw any away (no messing around with a roach clip).

/Dutch, so really getting a kick out of this thread.

Just another reason not to smoke joints and to go with a good solid bowl. Also, I'd much prefer to use a lighter a couple of times than to ruin my buddah with tobbacco. On the other hand, I do agree with the homemade filter policy.

I hope this blows over and is never enforced anywhere. The criminalized mushrooms last year and as far as I know they're still being sold.

Ugh this blows. I love Amsterdam so much. It makes me feel like I'm in the carnivalesque carnal-pleasure town in the 19th century, and everything is so beautiful, and everyone is so tolerant. Las Vegas is a cheap whore in comparison. Nothing beats walking back from the red light district at 5am past all the thousands of people in the still-open bars, drinking awesome dutch and belgian beer and smoking pot and all the junkies offering you coke and ecstasy... oh my god please let me get back there just a few more times before it turns into any old boring city.

The Netherlands is the liberal/leftist/left-libertarian version of Mecca.

With the influx of Muslims who won't adapt to Dutch culture, that's changing.

This doesn't affect cannabis smoking at all. Did you RTA, subby? This only affects tobacco. While it may be common to smoke the two together, by no means does it stop, say, vaporizing, or smoking cannabis joints, or taking monster hits of holland's greatest shiat on a giant gravity bong.

/probably the 10 person to point this out
//waves around TotalFark tag like a floppy penis
///penissssssssss

ubercub: This doesn't affect cannabis smoking at all. Did you RTA, subby?

FTA: But that still leaves coffee shops and their customers in a bind. Dutch and other European marijuana users traditionally smoke pot in fat, cone-shaped joints mixed with tobacco.

I'm sorry, what were you saying? I couldn't hear you way down here in liter-land.

From TFA: The Dutch "tolerance" policy recognizes that some people will smoke pot regardless of laws, so it might as well happen in an orderly way. Critics complain this encourages substance abuse.

But cannabis abuse in Holland ranks somewhere in the middle compared to other nations and is lower than in the U.S., France and England, according to statistics compiled by the United Nations' Office on Drugs and Crime.

But.. but.. The War On Drugs! Stay the Course! Mission Accomplished! Just Say No! THINK OF THE CHILDRENNNNNN!!!

Tobacco in a joint is the most horrid thing ever.

Get a proper grinder for your herb, and everything smokes like a dream.

As a non-smoker I REALLY hate these laws. Why the hell can't adults make choices for themselfs now days???? This is just FRAKING silly and I view these laws as nothing but taking our rights away, not protecting anybody.

Poppa Boner: BorgDrone: rrahrrahrrah: Who in their right mind dilutes marijuana with tobacco? I always had a hard stance on that: no tobacco in my doobies. EVER.

You, sir, are an amateur pot smoker.

Tobacco in a joint makes it burn better, you don't have to use a lighter constantly.
Also, a joint should have a 'tip' (piece of rolled up thick paper) and no weed in the bit just before the tip so you don't throw any away (no messing around with a roach clip).

/Dutch, so really getting a kick out of this thread.

Please, tell us more wise sage.

Well since I live here too, I can probably fill in a bit :) Tobacco also generally makes it less harsh to smoke, although that depends on exactly what you are smoking.

The dutch have menus of the different types of weed that they sell, how is that for civilized?

Some use carbon filters, although that is more rare, all coffeeshops I have been to have the "filters" (its just rolled business card type paper, it doesnt filter anything) but you can also buy packets of them and you just tear one off and roll it up. This makes it much easier to walk around with.

There are two sizes of paper here, small/regular for tobacco only typically and the large ones for either really addicted smokers or joints.

Did you know that coffeeshops cannot legally grow or purchase the products they sell? Its overlooked how they get it so long as they comply with the other officially tolerated rules (its not legal here even though coffeeshops get licenses, are taxed, etc. There are specific amounts that are tolerated though).

Who would want to pollute their pot with tobacco?
Never have understood that.

kingfish2004: As a non-smoker I REALLY hate these laws. Why the hell can't adults make choices for themselfs now days???? This is just FREAKING silly and I view these laws as nothing but taking our rights away, not protecting anybody.

THIS, except for the non-smoker part.

ultraholland: !!!Threadjack Alert!!!



Can any Farker in Amsterdam identify this pub by the decor? I've been trying to track this place down for a future visit. I can remember its layout but can't remember its location.

That could be any number of places, there are a few like that at rembrandtplein. I would imagine though that there are others elsewhere.

Can you at least remember where roughly it was? Nieuwmarkt? Rembrandtplein? Leidseplein? How far from the redlight district or was it in the redlight district? Even a tram line would help a little, surely there was one with a number on the front and back.