"Wear a turban to the Presidential Debate" strangely absent.

Well, Obama could let the right-wing smear pros (Lee Atwater was Karl Rove's mentor) tap-dance all over him without fighting back. I have not seen this happening, have you?

To all appearances, the presidency is his to lose. Realizing this, his campaign is not going to make the easily avoided mistakes of Dukakis, Gore and Kerry's poorly run campaigns.

If Obama loses, he'll go down fighting, which is at least a marked improvement over the last two Democratic candidates.

When Mr. Wenner asked how Mr. Obama might respond to harsh attacks from Republicans, suggesting that Democrats have "cowered" in the past, Mr. Obama replied, "Yeah, I don't do cowering."

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A certain percentage of the vote is unwinnable, simply because he's black and has a skeery-sounding name. I have to think, though, that the percentage is very small and those people would vote for the republican anyway...

A certain percentage of the vote is unwinnable

About a third of the vote is unwinnable for each side.

Forced Perspective: A certain percentage of the vote is unwinnable, simply because he's black and has a skeery-sounding name. I have to think, though, that the percentage is very small and those people would vote for the republican anyway...

Maybe we could find a little space for those people carved out of texas or some other part of flyover country and let them secede in January. We'd all be happier I think.

I don't think the smart bet is on Obama losing.

Of course, I base that entirely on my opinion that Obama is simply the better of the two candidates (yes, I'm not giving any real consideration to any 3rd party candidates because none of them are viable at all). I don't think it will be a total landslide, but I'm pretty sure Obama will win with by a significant margin.

But by all means... flame on. ;)

gilgigamesh: Forced Perspective: A certain percentage of the vote is unwinnable, simply because he's black and has a skeery-sounding name. I have to think, though, that the percentage is very small and those people would vote for the republican anyway...

Maybe we could find a little space for those people carved out of texas or some other part of flyover country and let them secede in January. We'd all be happier I think.

Don't even give them just a part of Texas, give them the whole thing, it will save us the trouble of having to relocate the very worst offenders.

Personally, I believe the only way Obama could lose this election is if McCain got more electoral votes than him.

big pink will single-handedly destroy his campaign, just like big-pink was going to single-handedly ensure clinton got the nomination.

QU!RK1019: Personally, I believe the only way Obama could lose this election is if McCain got more electoral votes than him.

You and your crazy "facts".

QU!RK1019: Personally, I believe the only way Obama could lose this election is if McCain got more electoral votes than him.

nah. he could lose if i got more electoral votes than him as well

Megain/mccain '08!

/keeping the dream alive
//it's a nightmare

Megain: nah. he could lose if i got more electoral votes than him as well

Megain/mccain '08!

/keeping the dream alive
//it's a nightmare

A rhyming ticket is a winning ticket!

YouWinAgainGravity: big pink will single-handedly destroy his campaign, just like big-pink was going to single-handedly ensure clinton got the nomination.

I'm sorry, WTF are you talking about?

QU!RK1019: A rhyming ticket is a winning ticket!

sweet - someone agrees! now, about the campaign contributions... i accept paypal. eip

Wabash: I'm sorry, WTF are you talking about?

I'm not 100% on my assessment of what he was saying, but I think he was saying that Rush Limbaugh claimed he would get Clinton the nomination and now seems to think he will destroy the Obama campaign. Also that Limbaugh was wrong the first time and will be wrong the second. Although, I could be completely wrong.

Mordant: gilgigamesh: Forced Perspective: A certain percentage of the vote is unwinnable, simply because he's black and has a skeery-sounding name. I have to think, though, that the percentage is very small and those people would vote for the republican anyway...

Maybe we could find a little space for those people carved out of texas or some other part of flyover country and let them secede in January. We'd all be happier I think.

Don't even give them just a part of Texas, give them the whole thing, it will save us the trouble of having to relocate the very worst offenders.

Obama gained delegates through Texas. How's that compare to New York or California? Hmmmm?

JohnnyC: Wabash: I'm sorry, WTF are you talking about?

I'm not 100% on my assessment of what he was saying, but I think he was saying that Rush Limbaugh claimed he would get Clinton the nomination and now seems to think he will destroy the Obama campaign. Also that Limbaugh was wrong the first time and will be wrong the second. Although, I could be completely wrong.

big pink is that stupid hillaryis44 site with all the nutjobs, it's been referenced a lot on fark.

If you read the article, you find that Obama has a bit of a problem on one topic.

Let me express that problem in a photo.



Basically Barack Obama is experiencing the problem that Gary Hart experienced. Obama talks a good game, but he just doesn't get more out there about the sort of policies and changes he will pursue.

People know he 'opposed' the Iraq War in 2002, but they don't know what he'll do now.

People know that he has liberal ideas on the economy, but they don't know what he'll do to improve the economy.

People know all these generalities, but Barack Obama has to bring the beef if he has any chance of winning.

John McCain has a vast lead over Obama in the category of being ready for the job and having the experience needed to be President.

Obama can't just do a pied piper act to win in November like he did with the primary.

YouWinAgainGravity: big pink is that stupid hillaryis44 site with all the nutjobs, it's been referenced a lot on fark.

Ahh... my bad... I just thought, "Who's big and pink and wrong all the time?" and the answer was "Rush Limbaugh". Which made some sort of sense, but now that you mention it, I do recall people referring to hillaryis44.com as "big pink".

McCainDemocrat: If you read the article, you find that Obama has a bit of a problem on one topic.

Concern troll is concerned.

fta:

Obama has been aptly described as elusive.

huh. yeah, he's definitely trying to hide his agenda

people who don't know where he stands or think he's being elusive are either stupid or willfully ignorant. or both

Obviously you have to go to Barack Obama's website to figure out where he stands on issues. Because he won't tell you those stances on his own.

oddly, some people find the internet to be a great platform for getting their message across to the general public

McCainDemocrat: Barack Obama has to bring the beef

Concerning, yet homoerotic. Interesting angle.

Not everybody has the time to go to BarackObama's website and download his pdf files. They want to hear what he has to say personally.

Granted, if what he had to say is anything like Obama claiming that more Latinos had died for our country than all others..

do you want Mushmouth Obama to keep talking?

The more Obama talks, the more votes he loses. The guy just doesn't seem to have the gears working upstairs.

I think the above post, and how it is directly opposite anything contained in reality, should serve as proof that McPoonDanlcrat is a troll.

anyone who is genuinely concerned with the issues and the election should be willing to look at all of the information available. if they're not, they obviously don't care enough to be well informed and will vote based on opinions rather than information. instead they'll cry things like "force-feed me information" and "i demand that you make innumerable speeches on your stance that will bore everyone involved and not be watched by the willfully ignorant anyway"

McCain's ads actually talk about issues and his stance on issues.

And Obama hasn't done that yet.

Yep, issues like "I'M A MAVERICK BECAUSE OF GLOBAL WARMING!!!!11"

Issues like "I Actually have plans for Global Warming"

Obama doesn't have any record on global warming.

Can anybody name an issue that Obama led on and accomplished something about in the US Senate?

McCainDemocrat: Can anybody name an issue that Obama led on and accomplished something about in the US Senate?

He's a respected leader in the drive to get a Muslim Communist into the White House.

anyone who votes based on ads alone is an idiot, as is anyone who thinks they can get a meaningful representation of the candidate from a 30 second blurb

McCainDemocrat: Issues like "I Actually have plans for Global Warming"

Obama doesn't have any record on global warming.

Can anybody name an issue that Obama led on and accomplished something about in the US Senate?

Here's where I'd normally answer, but since you're going to pretend as if it's not there anyway, I'll save my fingers the trouble, danlpoon.

McCainDemocrat [TotalFark] Quote 2008-06-28 01:12:30 PM
If you read the article, you find that Obama has a bit of a problem on one topic.


You confused Obama with McCain.

Obama has tons of substance, McCain has none as even many conservative pundits have been admitting recently.

His entire platform is extending tax cuts he opposed, staying in iraq with no plan whatsoever and a few discredited energy gimmicks.

Talk about intellectual poverty...

A black guy named Barack Obama beat out one of the most powerful politically machine ever, one where the Clintons have not lost in over 20 years.

I think he can beat some old guy who can't even rally his own base.

co-conspirator: Well, Obama could let the right-wing smear pros (Lee Atwater was Karl Rove's mentor) tap-dance all over him without fighting back. I have not seen this happening, have you?

To all appearances, the presidency is his to lose. Realizing this, his campaign is not going to make the easily avoided mistakes of Dukakis, Gore and Kerry's poorly run campaigns.

As I heard noted on NPR earlier in the week, "McCain cannot win the presidency, but Obama can lose it.

submitter: Michael Dukakis had a 17-point lead in July 1988. Here's how Obama could join Mr. Tank Helmet in Losertown

What's with this meme anyway? Dukakis served in Korea, US Army '55-'57.

Bill Frist: You confused Obama with McCain.

Has Colin Powell endorsed Obama yet?

moralpanic: I think he can beat some old guy who can't even rally his own base.

You mean an old guy who is holding Obama to a tie in numerous polls? And who became the Comeback Kid of the new Century in the Republican Primary?

Bill Frist: His entire platform is extending tax cuts he opposed, staying in iraq with no plan whatsoever and a few discredited energy gimmicks.

Well, to be fair, he doesn't even know what his platform is half the time.

Unless the DOW is above 14,000 and gas is under $2.50 come November, McCain doesn't stand a chance.

McCainDemocrat [TotalFark] Quote 2008-06-28 02:52:16 PM
Bill Frist: You confused Obama with McCain.

Has Colin Powell endorsed Obama yet?

Even Robert Novak, in a recent column, said Colin Powell is going to endorse Obama.



You mean an old guy who is holding Obama to a tie in numerous polls?

No, we mean the same old guy who is getting CRUSHED in electoral map polling every time.

And who became the Comeback Kid of the new Century in the Republican Primary?

I honestly have no idea who this means. Romney? Rudy? Who is the "comeback kid" of the republican party?

R5D4: submitter: Michael Dukakis had a 17-point lead in July 1988. Here's how Obama could join Mr. Tank Helmet in Losertown

What's with this meme anyway? Dukakis served in Korea, US Army '55-'57.

Are you a young'n or something?



Look like a dork, lose an election.

FiveThirtyEight.com currently gives Obama a 65% chance of winning the election.

Bill Frist: Has Colin Powell endorsed Obama yet?

Even Robert Novak, in a recent column, said Colin Powell is going to endorse Obama.

i was going to go with "has colin powell endorsed mccain yet?", but yeah

Even if Obama loses, the Democrats come out ahead. They should pick up solid majorities in both houses which means the leadership might actually grow spines, or at least notochords. Also, McCain has all but admitted that he would be a one-termer because of his age, so President McCain would probably be less stubborn and less beholden to the Super Grover Norquist crowd than Bush.

That said, it's Obama's election to lose.

McCainDemocrat:
You mean an old guy who is holding Obama to a tie in numerous polls? And who became the Comeback Kid of the new Century in the Republican Primary?

Yeah, it sure was tough to beat out a mormon that was funding his own campaign, Huckabee, and Ron Paul (I don't even know what to say about Guiliani, that was one farked up campaign).

But he's had several months now to rally his base, and he still can't do it.

As for tying with Obama... Obama has only started his general election just a couple of weeks ago. 17 months of campaigning takes a toll, so he, and especially his grassroots movement, have taken a break. Wait until late July or August, and then you'll see what Obama can pull out. Clinton had record number of donations too, and she couldn't keep up with Obama's 50 state strategy. How well do you think McCain's public financed campaign will do?

Now That's What I Call a Taco! Quote 2008-06-28 03:03:23 PM
FiveThirtyEight.com currently gives Obama a 65% chance of winning the election.

I think you mean it says Obama will win 65% of the electoral vote.... no?

If Obama is found to hang out with people known to despise white people and the government and his country he will lose the election.

If Obama is found to have represented white people as bitter and disillusioned and "clinging to their God and guns" then he won't be elected.

If Obama runs as a Black American while having nothing in common with the history and tribulations of Black America, he will lose the election.

If Obama is married to a shrill, moronic, affirmative action propped up wanna be Oprah, Saul Alinsky acolyte, then he will lose the election.

If Obama is found to be an ineffective legislator with a deep history of ignoring his obligations while in office, then he won't win the election.

If Obama is discovered to have never served his country in the military, peace corps or run a business or bureaucracy, then he will never be elected.

If Obama has written narcissistic tomes celebrating a life not lived and accomplishments not achieved before the age of 40, wherein he expresses a desire to cut out his "whiteness," he will not win the election.

If Obama admires the likes of Malcolm X, a man who could only find "good people" if they were Muslim and admonished fellow hucksters to "never trust women unless they were your wife and then only half the time," then he will not win the election.

If Obama repeatedly lies about his father's background, or dismisses the loving family who raised him in his abandonment by his paternal sperm donor as "typical white people," then he will not win the election.

My friends, surely Americans could see through such a hypocritical, deceitful, misogynistic, hateful, despicable candidate.

But of course, none of the above could possibly be true.

So surely Obama will win against the old white guy.

Rev. Skarekroe: Look like a dork, lose an election.

Not necessarily.