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Tacoby Bellisbury 2008-06-27 04:33:48 PM  
So he pulled an Obama?

 
Bill Frist 2008-06-27 04:34:43 PM  
Tacoby Bellisbury [TotalFark] Quote 2008-06-27 04:33:48 PM
So he pulled an Obama?

And where did Obama do that?

 
Tacoby Bellisbury 2008-06-27 04:37:37 PM  
Bill Frist: And where did Obama do that?

I'm not your research monkey... Not my fault if you're uninformed

 
robsul82 [TotalFark] 2008-06-27 04:38:18 PM  
McCain's forgetful oopsies are the second-most annoying thing about him, trailing only the media's ardent swallowing of the bullshiat line that "McCain doesn't talk about being a POW, what a great guy for not taking advantage of that." Suck my farking dick he doesn't.

 
what_now [TotalFark] 2008-06-27 04:39:47 PM  
Tacoby Bellisbury had sex with a dead dog in front of a daycare center. I'm not sourcing it, however, because I'm not your research monkey.

/Obama/Webb 08

 
Bill Frist 2008-06-27 04:40:03 PM  
Tacoby Bellisbury

Translation: "I'm talking out of my ass in a C level trolling attempt"

 
Tacoby Bellisbury 2008-06-27 04:40:10 PM  
robsul82: McCain's forgetful oopsies are the second-most annoying thing about him, trailing only the media's ardent swallowing of the bullshiat line that "McCain doesn't talk about being a POW, what a great guy for not taking advantage of that." Suck my farking dick he doesn't.

Just like how Obama doesn't talk about being black.

Except he was born that way, whereas McCain earned teh right to be called a Veteran

 
Tacoby Bellisbury 2008-06-27 04:40:51 PM  
what_now: Tacoby Bellisbury had sex with a dead dog in front of a daycare center. I'm not sourcing it, however, because I'm not your research monkey.

/Obama/Webb 08

The Dog was in a coma, not dead.

TMYK*

 
Bill Frist 2008-06-27 04:42:08 PM  

Just like how Obama doesn't talk about being black.


Obama actually very rarely talks about being black. It i part of his appeal. Unlike, say, Clinton who bragged about being a woman the entire time.

 
jbc [TotalFark] 2008-06-27 04:43:03 PM  
what_now: Tacoby Bellisbury had sex with a dead dog in front of a daycare center. I'm not sourcing it, however, because I'm not your research monkey.

/Obama/Webb 08

Please. Even dead dogs have standards.

 
robsul82 [TotalFark] 2008-06-27 04:45:34 PM  
Tacoby Bellisbury: robsul82: McCain's forgetful oopsies are the second-most annoying thing about him, trailing only the media's ardent swallowing of the bullshiat line that "McCain doesn't talk about being a POW, what a great guy for not taking advantage of that." Suck my farking dick he doesn't.

Just like how Obama doesn't talk about being black.

Except he was born that way, whereas McCain earned teh right to be called a Veteran

Actually, no, but keep touching yourself. He ACTUALLY rarely talks about it, while McCain makes sure to run around in his NAVY hat and mention his POW time in campaign materials time and time and time again. Has Obama worn an I'M BLACK hat or put out ads or campaign flyers saying I'M BLACK on them? No? Then shut the fark up.

 
what_now [TotalFark] 2008-06-27 04:47:44 PM  
Bill Frist: Obama actually very rarely talks about being black. It i part of his appeal. Unlike, say, Clinton who bragged about being a woman the entire time.

THIS

Nestea Plunge: Tacoby Bellisbury:

Except he was born that way, whereas McCain earned teh right to be called a Veteran

Sorry Charlie, that shiat ain't going to wash because of the purple band aid business in 2004.


THAT

You're example has failed. Please don't try again.

 
Giblet 2008-06-27 04:48:48 PM  
what_now: Tacoby Bellisbury had sex with a dead dog in front of a daycare center. I'm not sourcing it, however, because I'm not your research monkey.

/Obama/Webb 08


Don't call his mom a dog.

That's uncool.

 
Giblet 2008-06-27 04:54:54 PM  
robsul82: Tacoby Bellisbury: robsul82: McCain's forgetful oopsies are the second-most annoying thing about him, trailing only the media's ardent swallowing of the bullshiat line that "McCain doesn't talk about being a POW, what a great guy for not taking advantage of that." Suck my farking dick he doesn't.

Just like how Obama doesn't talk about being black.

Except he was born that way, whereas McCain earned teh right to be called a Veteran

Actually, no, but keep touching yourself. He ACTUALLY rarely talks about it, while McCain makes sure to run around in his NAVY hat and mention his POW time in campaign materials time and time and time again. Has Obama worn an I'M BLACK hat or put out ads or campaign flyers saying I'M BLACK on them? No? Then shut the fark up.



That's why I keep saying Obama should tap Jim Webb for VP.

I mean, which .mil experience can you trust more: the guy (McCain) who got caught on one of his first missions and spent the rest of his time there fighting mosquitoes, or the guy (Webb) who slugged it through several full tours and spent them doing actual military stuff, and who did time as top brass?

Webb is a no-brainer, but that's probably why Obama won't pick him.

 
Con_Authority [TotalFark] 2008-06-27 05:00:22 PM  
"Obama actually very rarely talks about being black. It i part of his appeal. Unlike, say, Clinton who bragged about being a woman the entire time"


Holy shiat Hillary Clinton is a woman?

 
Bill Frist 2008-06-27 05:01:57 PM  

Webb is a no-brainer, but that's probably why Obama won't pick him.

I like Webb. A lot. I voted for him and I would like him; as VP

But he isn't a total no-brainer. For one thing, he has a fairly crappy record on women's issues, or at least is percieved that way... can Obama afford to piss of women with his VP choice after beating Clinton?

 
Blues_X [TotalFark] 2008-06-27 05:05:33 PM  
Tacoby Bellisbury: I'm not your research monkey...

Nope... you're just a liar.


/prove me wrong

 
Nabb1 [TotalFark] 2008-06-27 05:08:21 PM  
Nestea Plunge: Tacoby Bellisbury:

Except he was born that way, whereas McCain earned teh right to be called a Veteran

Sorry Charlie, that shiat ain't going to wash because of the purple band aid business in 2004.

I said it was bullshiat then. I think it's bullshiat now. Anyone who tries to justify taking the opposite tack just because the shoe is on the other partisan foot is being intellectually dishonest and hypocritical.

 
TheOther [TotalFark] 2008-06-27 05:09:12 PM  
Is this the 'credit crises' I've been hearing about?

 
Code_Archeologist [TotalFark] 2008-06-27 05:09:56 PM  
Bill Frist: But he isn't a total no-brainer. For one thing, he has a fairly crappy record on women's issues, or at least is percieved that way... can Obama afford to piss of women with his VP choice after beating Clinton?

I have to agree with that, I like Webb too. But the cheesecake eating PUMAs will give him hell for choosing Web.

I am suspecting more and more that the VP pick for Obama is going to be somebody that is capable but boring. Obama is going to have to deal with enough manufactured controversy from the Right, to have to deal with real controversy from his number 2 man.

 
MonkeyVegetables [TotalFark] 2008-06-27 05:10:27 PM  
PANCAKES!

 
Giblet 2008-06-27 05:12:53 PM  
Bill Frist: Webb is a no-brainer, but that's probably why Obama won't pick him.

I like Webb. A lot. I voted for him and I would like him; as VP

But he isn't a total no-brainer. For one thing, he has a fairly crappy record on women's issues, or at least is percieved that way... can Obama afford to piss of women with his VP choice after beating Clinton?


If he doesn't pick Clinton for VP, he'll piss-off women.

If he DOES pick Clinton, McCain will win by a landslide.

If he picks Webb, a Scots-Irish full-on white guy ex-military politician who doesn't act like one, Obama will capture a lot more fence-sitters and sensible Republicans (like me), as well as the moderate Black vote (like me).

It's a no-brainer.

 
Axolotl 2008-06-27 05:13:20 PM  
Tacoby Bellisbury Bill Frist: And where did Obama do that?

I'm not your research monkey... Not my fault if you're uninformed

Bare Assertion Fallacy - your claim, your burden of proof

/really, that was just pathetic

 
Shostie [TotalFark] 2008-06-27 05:13:38 PM  
I was listening to NPR on the way home the other day. The had a sound bite of some college girl who was complaining about McCain's age, saying something along the lines of: "I heard he can't lift his arms above his head because he's old."

Um, no. His age has nothing to his ability to raise his arms above his head. You can blame that one on the Viet-Cong.

 
Poopspasm [TotalFark] 2008-06-27 05:13:51 PM  
Nabb1: I said it was bullshiat then. I think it's bullshiat now. Anyone who tries to justify taking the opposite tack just because the shoe is on the other partisan foot is being intellectually dishonest and hypocritical.

I don't think anyone is going to be spoofing his POW camptime by offering coupons for massages and facials at the Hanoi Hilton. I'd be sorely disappointed if they did.

All he said is that it's a bit hard to take these dingleberries seriously when they were shiatting all over Kerry's service just a few short years ago.

 
bartink 2008-06-27 05:14:11 PM  
Tacomoron strikes again. Those PhD's must inform him.

 
Poopspasm [TotalFark] 2008-06-27 05:15:24 PM  
Shostie: I was listening to NPR on the way home the other day. The had a sound bite of some college girl who was complaining about McCain's age, saying something along the lines of: "I heard he can't lift his arms above his head because he's old."

Um, no. His age has nothing to his ability to raise his arms above his head. You can blame that one on the Viet-Cong.

Wow.

That's frighteningly stupid. The girl I mean, not you.

 
PirateFreedom 2008-06-27 05:16:09 PM  
I love that the internet is becoming such a useful tool for keeping politicians honest.
Now if we could just explain to them that it exists.

 
Giblet 2008-06-27 05:16:39 PM  
Code_Archeologist: But the cheesecake eating PUMAs will give him hell for choosing Web.


The feminists are a tiny minority and no candidate needs to lose sleep worrying about what they may/may-not do since I guarantee you that even those feminists won't know what they'll do until it's done.

 
kasmel 2008-06-27 05:16:44 PM  
This is disingenuous.

I'm by no means a supporter of McCain, but the representation of this is inaccurate.

McCain opposed the bill initially because, to paraphrase his words, it removed the incentive for military personnel to complete longer terms of duty.

The clause which adds the flexibility to transfer credits to family, contingent upon term length, is what McCain is referencing here.

Ergo, TFA=Fail.

 
helpslipfark 2008-06-27 05:17:23 PM  
I just don't like all this talk of dudes 'tapping' dudes for VP.. I mean.. really, they need to keep that shait to themselves..

 
MorrisBird [TotalFark] 2008-06-27 05:17:49 PM  
PirateFreedom: Now if we could just explain to them that it exists.

John McCain doesn't need to know about computers. He can depend on his pal, Ted Stevens, to explain it to him. See, John, it's a series of tubes.

 
Bill Frist 2008-06-27 05:18:26 PM  
No, kasmel, it is quite dishonest for McCain to claim "we" did anythign when he didn't even show up to vote.

He did not help pass this bill or that clause. He is deliberately painting an inaccurate portrait for uninformed voters.

 
IXI Jim IXI [TotalFark] 2008-06-27 05:19:48 PM  
Poopspasm: That's frighteningly stupid. The girl I mean, not you.

Yah. There are plenty of reasons not to like McCain, but unless they're putting the big red nuclear button on his bed's headboard, him not being able to reach above his head really makes little difference as to whether he'd be a good President.

 
Hobodeluxe [TotalFark] 2008-06-27 05:21:47 PM  
Shostie: Um, no. His age has nothing to his ability to raise his arms above his head. You can blame that one on the Viet-Cong his plane crash.

ftfy

 
MorrisBird [TotalFark] 2008-06-27 05:21:51 PM  
IXI Jim IXI: unless they're putting the big red nuclear button on his bed's headboard

Plus, when the phone rings at 3 a.m., he'll be up anyway. At his age the old prostate has him up four and five times a night, no doubt.

 
kasmel 2008-06-27 05:22:27 PM  
Bill Frist: Tacoby Bellisbury [TotalFark] Quote 2008-06-27 04:33:48 PM
So he pulled an Obama?

And where did Obama do that?

Link (new window)

This is what taco is referring to. And if you're going to call McCain on it, you have to call Obama on it too...

 
PirateFreedom 2008-06-27 05:23:49 PM  
IXI Jim IXI [TotalFark] Quote 2008-06-27 05:19:48 PM
Poopspasm: That's frighteningly stupid. The girl I mean, not you.

Yah. There are plenty of reasons not to like McCain, but unless they're putting the big red nuclear button on his bed's headboard, him not being able to reach above his head really makes little difference as to whether he'd be a good President.

I would bet a lot of money that she won't be voting anyway. The uninformed and stupid seeming are often just the apathetic.

 
Bill Frist 2008-06-27 05:23:54 PM  


Link (new window)

This is what taco is referring to. And if you're going to call McCain on it, you have to call Obama on it too...

That article is about the logo that Obama made and then stopped using...

whaton earth does that have to do with not showing up to vote for a bill then pretending you helped pass it?

 
IXI Jim IXI [TotalFark] 2008-06-27 05:24:01 PM  
kasmel: This is what taco is referring to. And if you're going to call McCain on it, you have to call Obama on it too...

Looks like Obama was bad, McCain is worse.

 
dhudd 2008-06-27 05:24:24 PM  
Giblet: robsul82: Tacoby Bellisbury: robsul82: McCain's forgetful oopsies are the second-most annoying thing about him, trailing only the media's ardent swallowing of the bullshiat line that "McCain doesn't talk about being a POW, what a great guy for not taking advantage of that." Suck my farking dick he doesn't.

Just like how Obama doesn't talk about being black.

Except he was born that way, whereas McCain earned teh right to be called a Veteran

Actually, no, but keep touching yourself. He ACTUALLY rarely talks about it, while McCain makes sure to run around in his NAVY hat and mention his POW time in campaign materials time and time and time again. Has Obama worn an I'M BLACK hat or put out ads or campaign flyers saying I'M BLACK on them? No? Then shut the fark up.



That's why I keep saying Obama should tap Jim Webb for VP.

I mean, which .mil experience can you trust more: the guy (McCain) who got caught on one of his first missions and spent the rest of his time there fighting mosquitoes, or the guy (Webb) who slugged it through several full tours and spent them doing actual military stuff, and who did time as top brass?

Webb is a no-brainer, but that's probably why Obama won't pick him.

Can't pick Webb, we lose the seat in Virginia if he does.

Richardson (has to be a governor, can't be a senator)

 
GoRedSoxGo 2008-06-27 05:24:38 PM  
The Maverick strikes again.

kasmel: This is what taco is referring to. And if you're going to call McCain on it, you have to call Obama on it too...

I agree. I'm not sure what Obama was doing there.

 
GoRedSoxGo 2008-06-27 05:25:41 PM  
Bill Frist: Link (new window)

This is what taco is referring to. And if you're going to call McCain on it, you have to call Obama on it too...

That article is about the logo that Obama made and then stopped using...

whaton earth does that have to do with not showing up to vote for a bill then pretending you helped pass it?

FTFA: My former White House colleague Yuval Levin pointed out that Mr. Obama, in his first national TV ad rolled out Friday, claims credit for having "extended health care for wounded troops," citing the 2008 defense authorization. That bill passed 91-3 - but Mr. Obama was one of only six senators who didn't show up to vote.

/Obama supporter
//wants truth from both sides

 
MorrisBird [TotalFark] 2008-06-27 05:25:51 PM  
GoRedSoxGo: I'm not sure what Obama was doing there.

He was, and I'm going to speak very slowly here: being a politician. It's what they do.

 
Donald_McRonald 2008-06-27 05:25:59 PM  

Nothing new.

Yesterday, McCain had not one but two such moments. At a press conference in New Orleans, he claimed to have voted for every investigation into Hurricane Katrina, when in fact he voted twice against establishing a commission to investigate levee failures. "I don't know exactly what you are describing at this moment," he told the reporter. Then, when asked why he called for divestment from Iran but never signed onto the divestment bill Obama introduced last year, he pled ignorance: "I am not familiar with it at all. I do not know if it passed the Senate or had any hearing or anything else."

 
Nabb1 [TotalFark] 2008-06-27 05:26:03 PM  
Bill Frist: No, kasmel, it is quite dishonest for McCain to claim "we" did anythign when he didn't even show up to vote.

He did not help pass this bill or that clause. He is deliberately painting an inaccurate portrait for uninformed voters.

Correct me if I'm wrong (and I have no doubt someone will), but Obama didn't vote for this, either, and I do believe he was recently crowing about the legislation as well. Or perhaps that was a different bill.

 
GoRedSoxGo 2008-06-27 05:26:35 PM  
MorrisBird: GoRedSoxGo: I'm not sure what Obama was doing there.

He was, and I'm going to speak very slowly here: being a politician. It's what they do.

I understand that, I just hoped he was smarter than that.

 
kasmel 2008-06-27 05:26:57 PM  
kasmel: And where did Obama do that?

Mr. Obama, in his first national TV ad rolled out Friday, claims credit for having "extended health care for wounded troops," citing the 2008 defense authorization. That bill passed 91-3 - but Mr. Obama was one of only six senators who didn't show up to vote.


Country I love ad (new window)

The good stuff is at about 48secs

 
Bill Frist 2008-06-27 05:27:46 PM  
?

FTFA: My former White House colleague Yuval Levin pointed out that Mr. Obama, in his first national TV ad rolled out Friday, claims credit for having "extended health care for wounded troops," citing the 2008 defense authorization. That bill passed 91-3 - but Mr. Obama was one of only six senators who didn't show up to vote.

/Obama supporter
//wants truth from both sides


That sounds bad.

But did Obama at least SUPPORT the bill?

McCain actively denounced this bill. He didn't just not vote for it. Taking credit for something that you opposed after it passes just because it is popular is pretty sad.

 
Baby Diego [TotalFark] 2008-06-27 05:28:36 PM  
Not voting for something and voting against it are the SAME.

Just like the Democrats and the Republicans are the SAME.

/Fark politics in a nutshell

 
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