*Raises hands in air with tears streaming down face*

"She had a very creative sound for Christian music, more outside the box."

I'll bet she's more of an inside-the-box kinda gal now.

Katy Perry Shunned Christian Circuit for Mainstream Stardom

If you have any real talent, this is what you do. If you don't have any, then you keep doing church gigs and passing the hat collection plate.

See: Jessica Simpson, Whitney Houston, etc. etc...

Kyosuke: If you have any real talent, this is what you do... See: Jessica Simpson, Whitney Houston, etc. etc...

Jars of Clay? Switchfoot? Reliant K? DC Talk? Third Day?

Watchman: Jars of Clay? Switchfoot? Reliant K? DC Talk? Third Day?

All still passing that collection plate and living off of money otherwise donated to non-profit organizations.

Damn, meant "non-profit" organizations.

Hotness and looking like Zooey Deschanel aside, is watching pseudo-queer action between straight girls still fun for guys? I thought we all OD'ed on this with Tatu, or every drunk sorority girl in a bar, or Madonna and Britney....

Why does that make it so much hotter?

Kyosuke: All still passing that collection plate and living off of money otherwise donated to non-profit organizations.

Ah. Sorry I missed your earlier sarcasm. I get it now.

prekrasno: I'll bet she's more of an inside-the-box kinda gal now.

Winnah

Watchman: Ah. Sorry I missed your earlier sarcasm. I get it now.

I didn't realize I was being sarcastic.

All the bands you listed broke into the secular market by obfuscating the sermons contained in their songs. That way, they could come back to the churches as "heros" for having "spread the message."

\then they get the church to buy them all new gear, and away they go again.
\\yes, I've seen it first hand.

Christians are some messed up people.

Read Epicurus: enjoy pleasure in moderation.

Scissor kicking is a sin in the eyes of the lord.

Big deal... JAPK

Just Another Preacher's Kid

Always the ones who rebel and become the worst of sinners.

_{Seen that first hand many times}

H_is_for_Heretic: Hotness and looking like Zooey Deschanel aside, is watching pseudo-queer action between straight girls still fun for guys? I thought we all OD'ed on this with Tatu, or every drunk sorority girl in a bar, or Madonna and Britney....

that's like asking if people still enjoy drugs, after all those rock stars we've seen use them.

PC LOAD LETTER: Christians are some messed up people.

Read Epicurus: enjoy pleasure in moderation.

And regular people aren't?

Currently working on a prog-rock style recording of the Book of Revelation in the style of early King Crimson/Pink Floyd. Not all Christian music sucks.

FTFA: Those lyrics sound tame next to those from another "One of the Boys" hit, "Ur So Gay":

I hope you hang yourself with your H&M scarf
While jacking off listening to Mozart
Ur so gay.
U probably think this song is about u, don't u, don't u...

Wishing for the death of a homosexual? C'mon, plenty of "Christians" do that.

prekrasno: I'll bet she's more of an inside-the-box kinda gal now.

You, sir, owe me a keyboard.

H_is_for_Heretic: Hotness and looking like Zooey Deschanel aside, is watching pseudo-queer action between straight girls still fun for guys? I thought we all OD'ed on this with Tatu, or every drunk sorority girl in a bar, or Madonna and Britney....

That's like saying I OD'ed on masturbating when I was 14.

JohnCougarMelonhead: PC LOAD LETTER: Christians are some messed up people.

Read Epicurus: enjoy pleasure in moderation.

And regular people aren't?

Currently working on a prog-rock style recording of the Book of Revelation in the style of early King Crimson/Pink Floyd. Not all Christian music sucks.

It doesn't sound like you are doing much to change the misconception.

/Unwarranted snark.
//I has it.

daimlerneon: That's like saying I OD'ed on masturbating when I was 14.

You did too, huh? Man, those skin grafts after they took me to the hospital were painful.

Jill Sobule is unimpressed.

Kyosuke: Katy Perry Shunned Christian Circuit for Mainstream Stardom


If you have any real talent, this is what you do. If you don't have any, then you keep doing church gigs and passing the hat collection plate.

See: Jessica Simpson, Whitney Houston, etc. etc...

I've read that Jessica Simpson's problem in the Christian Circuit was her boobs - they were too big.

JohnCougarMelonhead: Not all Christian music sucks.

No, some blows, some licks, some gags...

wpmulligan: Jill Sobule is unimpressed.

That was my other thought too; it's not as shocking as Jill's song(i.e. GREAT! Welcome to 10 years ago).

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prekrasno: "She had a very creative sound for Christian music, more outside the box."

I'll bet she's more of an inside-the-box kinda gal now.

AuntofDogface: I've read that Jessica Simpson's problem in the Christian Circuit was her boobs - they were too big.

If you were one of the other much-lesser talented female members of the praise team, wouldn't find any excuse you could to get Jessica kicked out? Some old bitty wanted to regain her chance to sing solos.

They prefer their same-sex kisses take place between priest and altar boy.

Katy Hudson: "Oh God"
Katy Perry: "Oh God yes!"
/not mine

PC LOAD LETTER: Christians are some messed up people.

Read Epicurus: enjoy pleasure in moderation.

Or read Zeno and get shiat done.

//Sorry, had to turn it into a mediterranean Philosopher-fight.


Also:
Teenagers often rebel when granted freedom and social mobility. More at 11.

Her current single: I Kissed a Girl
Her next single: I Nailed a Cheerleader

Jill Sobule is better.

Selling out is still selling out. And these Christians that turn their backs on their faith and make secular music are no worse than David Bowie when he made China Girl. Katy Perry, of course, is not the first. Evanescence was a Christian band in the beginning too. Charlotte Church made her bones in the gospel music world. Now she's got at least 3 kids and isn't married. Much to the Conservative's shagrin in this country. Not sure if she's made any music since she spiraled into debauchery, but I can guarantee you it wouldn't be spiritual.

By the way, I despise organized religion. Just making a point.

H_is_for_Heretic: is watching pseudo-queer action between straight girls still fun for guys?

Whattayou, some kinda HOMO???

/er, yes

Remember when Spears, Aguilera, and Simpson all claimed to be Christians back when they first started out? We all know how that worked out.

Been there, done that. I mean, Xian musician. Well, yes, I kissed a girl, too.

The more the home church supported the band the more control over our own music we lost. Pretty soon the church was "suggesting" what songs to remove from the set list and recommending lyric modifications to promote the church doctrine. They meddled in our personal lives and instructed us ("the Lord told me to tell you") to fire our guitar player because he was living with his girlfriend, presumably in sin. The last straw was when the church blew our record deal for us by having the church elders call up the label A & R (Sparrow) and try to tell them how to package and manage us.

In the secular music world you have management/label, press, and fans. Management/label make their decisions based on press and fan feedback.
In the Xian music world everybody thinks they are your management because Jebus talks directly to them.

I don't blame her for bailing out of Xian World one bit.

Davescookies: Evanescence was a Christian band in the beginning too.

Not really. The label promoted them that way, but they never considered themselves one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evanescence

Originally promoted in Christian stores, the band eventually made it clear they did not want to be considered as part of the Christian rock genre. Wind-up Records chairman Alan Meltzer issued a press release in April 2003 asking for the band's music to be removed from Christian retail outlets.

During a 2003 interview with Entertainment Weekly, Ben Moody stated, "We're actually high on the Christian charts, and I'm like, What the f--k are we even doing there?"[47] This seemed to go against earlier sentiments by Moody that "We hope to express in our music that Christianity is not a rigid list of rules to follow..." and also "The message we as a band want to convey more than anything is simple-God is Love."[48] This has led to criticism of the band within the Christian community, even more so given that the band themselves approved of the plan to distribute Fallen to the Christian market. Terry Hemmings, CEO of Christian music distributor Provident, expressed puzzlement at the band's about-face, saying "They clearly understood the album would be sold in these [Christian music] channels." In the wake of the controversy, "Bring Me To Life" was dropped by many Christian radio stations; the song was Top 5 on Radio & Records' Christian Rock Top 30 one week, and completely gone the next. Ex-vocalist and keyboardist David Hodges eventually left the band over the controversy, with other members stating that he had been pulling them in more of a Christian direction than Lee and Moody were comfortable with.

When asked by Billboard in 2006 if Evanescence was a "Christian band," Amy Lee responded, "Can we please skip the Christian thing? I'm so over it. It's the lamest thing. I fought that from the beginning; I never wanted to be associated with it. It was a Ben thing. It's over."

Even God hates Christian music.

prekrasno: I'll bet she's more of an inside-the-box kinda gal now.

I LOL'd so hard milk flew out of my penis.

Jim_Callahan: Or read Zeno and get shiat done.

//Sorry, had to turn it into a mediterranean Philosopher-fight.

Which one of the 4 Zenos in philosophy are you talking about?

kanesays: Even God hates Christian music.

Well of course he does. It turns out that an obscure stomach-punching cult in the Mongolian steppe was the correct religion.

Already Disturbed: FTFA: Those lyrics sound tame next to those from another "One of the Boys" hit, "Ur So Gay":

I hope you hang yourself with your H&M scarf
While jacking off listening to Mozart
Ur so gay.
U probably think this song is about u, don't u, don't u...

Wishing for the death of a homosexual? C'mon, plenty of "Christians" do that.

Actually, it's a breakup song, and the chorus of "You're so gay" is followed by the phrase "and you don't even like boys."

So she's metrophobic.

H_is_for_Heretic: Hotness and looking like Zooey Deschanel aside, is watching pseudo-queer action between straight girls still fun for guys? I thought we all OD'ed on this with Tatu, or every drunk sorority girl in a bar, or Madonna and Britney....

Nope, just annoying. At least for me.

/likes the witty and sarcastic types

I'm proud to say I haven't heard that farking song.

The fact that she has a song titled "Ur so gay" makes me want to punch her in the face, though.

Sweetie, leave the homo music to Le Tigre, Pansy Division, etc...what you're writing is music to play to drunk dudes trying to get their unfortunate girlfriends to grope each other.

/HATE pseudo-drunk-bi women
//LOVE the real lezzies

JohnCougarMelonhead: Not all Christian music sucks.

Hate to break it to you, but yes, yes it does.

Kali-Yuga: JohnCougarMelonhead: Not all Christian music sucks.

Hate to break it to you, but yes, yes it does.

No, no, the music is often very good. It's the lyrics than can be godawful.

FunkOut: Kali-Yuga: JohnCougarMelonhead: Not all Christian music sucks.

Hate to break it to you, but yes, yes it does.

No, no, the music is often very good. It's the lyrics than can be godawful.

The Swirling Eddies, The Choir and Adam Again are three that I've carried with me from my zealous youth. And Rick Elias and the Confessions first album still moves me. Tthey made music that was outstanding from every angle.

Kali-Yuga:JohnCougarMelonhead: Not all Christian music sucks.

Hate to break it to you, but yes, yes it does.

I used to own every Five Iron Frenzy and O.C. Supertone CD ever made. Plus FIF put on some of the best live shows I have ever seen. But both bands have broken up now, so my interest in Xian music has faded.

Hit of the summer? I would be willing to bet thats a surprise to almost every one, more like flavor of the week.