The man tried to appoint Harriet E. Miers to the Supreme Court. Any worthy individuals he ended up placing there were entirely accidental.

Pocket Ninja: Any worthy individuals he ended up placing there were entirely accidental.

That's debatable and nuances like that are not written into the history books.

Wishful thinking, GOP fanboys. What president is remembered for a Supreme Court decision that happened during his tenure?

kronicfeld: Wishful thinking, GOP fanboys. What president is remembered for a Supreme Court decision that happened during his tenure?

This one might be, it was one of his very few high points. (Besides catching that fish)

kronicfeld: Wishful thinking, GOP fanboys. What president is remembered for a Supreme Court decision that happened during his tenure?

Madison. I guess you could say Nixon, but not for remotely similar reasons.

kronicfeld: Wishful thinking, GOP fanboys

I believe the "fanboys" are the ones who will remember that about Bush. Not the entire country in 20 years, but that decision probably makes a lot of conservatives feel a little better about his two terms.

Bush and the Supreme Court have been tight since 2000.

lunchinlewis: I believe the "fanboys" are the ones who will remember that about Bush. Not the entire country in 20 years

I think that in 20 years history will look upon GWB much more kindly than these fark threads would have you believe.

congratulations on a wildly successful 4 years, now if the "conservatives" would take their guns and turn them on themselves this could all have been worthwhile.

Satan_Sunburn: I think that in 20 years history will look upon GWB much more kindly than these fark threads would have you believe.

Relative to this place, he has nowhere to go but up.

Nabb1: Madison.

I hope you're not referring to Marbury v. Madison, since that was decided six years before he took office :)

Satan_Sunburn: I think that in 20 years history will look upon GWB much more kindly than these fark threads would have you believe.

Sure, if by "history" you mean "books written by partisan supporters designed to fictionalize an incompetent presidency and pushed to best-seller status by a few millionaire supporters of the Bush dynasty."

Pocket Ninja: Sure, if by "history" you mean "books written by partisan supporters designed to fictionalize an incompetent presidency and pushed to best-seller status by a few millionaire supporters of the Bush dynasty."

I'm sure a lot of bumpkins will also buy the books to support their hero (and prop up short legs of chairs in their homes).

Pocket Ninja:

Don't worry, all the books written by the liberal fascists will balance it all out.

kronicfeld: Wishful thinking, GOP fanboys. What president is remembered for a Supreme Court decision that happened during his tenure?

I'd argue that Brown V. Board, and the appointment of Earl Warren defined Eisenhower's presidency; but arguably that's because so little else happened during his tenure

Satan_Sunburn: lunchinlewis: I believe the "fanboys" are the ones who will remember that about Bush. Not the entire country in 20 years

I think that in 20 years history will look upon GWB much more kindly than these fark threads would have you believe.

Well yes, after his heroic struggles with mental retardation are finally revealed, we'll proabably feel sorry for him rather than hate him.

kronicfeld: Nabb1: Madison.

I hope you're not referring to Marbury v. Madison, since that was decided six years before he took office :)

No, it was the case of Kronicfeld v. STFU. :P

/Meh. I need coffee.

i'd imagine that any chance of this becoming his legacy would be cut short if the years after his administration were spent prosecuting multiple levels of the bush executive for various crimes that come to light.

we'll see.

Nabb1: No, it was the case of Kronicfeld v. STFU. :P

That is an oft-cited case.

Satan_Sunburn: I think that in 20 years history will look upon GWB much more kindly than these fark threads would have you believe.

Just look at Jimmy Carter.

Pocket Ninja: The man tried to appoint Harriet E. Miers to the Supreme Court. Any worthy individuals he ended up placing there were entirely accidental.

I agree with this statement entirely.

kronicfeld: Wishful thinking, GOP fanboys. What president is remembered for a Supreme Court decision that happened during his tenure?

How about Eisenhower and Brown v. Board?

thing is, the conservatives are still young or at least healthy and hale. obama, if he wins, will end up replacing liberal justices (stevens and ginsburg) with liberal nominees, so that's a wash.

KaponoFor3: How about Eisenhower and Brown v. Board?

You would be rather hard-pressed to find almost anyone who remembers Eisenhower for that case. Politics nerds on internet message boards notwithstanding.

kronicfeld: You would be rather hard-pressed to find almost anyone who remembers Eisenhower for that case. Politics nerds on internet message boards notwithstanding.

A quick quiz of some of my associates and partners in my firm shows that's the one that has come up the most.

albo: thing is, the conservatives are still young or at least healthy and hale.

Stevens and Ginsburg are the oldest, but Scalia isn't far behind Ginsburg.

KaponoFor3: A quick quiz of some of my associates and partners in my firm shows that's the one that has come up the most

And quite the cross-section of America they represent, I'm sure.

kronicfeld: And quite the cross-section of America they represent, I'm sure.

Outside of them all being educated, yes they do. Besides, your original question didn't say anything about a cross-section of Americans: "What president is remembered for a Supreme Court decision that happened during his tenure?"

Eisenhower is.

KaponoFor3: Outside of them all being educated, yes they do. Besides, your original question didn't say anything about a cross-section of Americans: "What president is remembered for a Supreme Court decision that happened during his tenure?"

Way to go. You found one president who is remembered for a Supreme Court decision by a bunch of law school graduates. There goes my premise.

kronicfeld: Way to go. You found one president who is remembered for a Supreme Court decision by a bunch of law school graduates. There goes my premise.

Your premise was no President is remembered for a Supreme Court decision that happened during his tenure. You are wrong. It's ok, it happens to everyone. Don't sweat it.

KaponoFor3: Your premise was no President is remembered for a Supreme Court decision that happened during his tenure. You are wrong. It's ok, it happens to everyone. Don't sweat it.

Next time I'll write it up into an acceptable multi-part fact pattern with appropriate provisos and qualifications so that you can just go to town on it with your bad pedantic self.

KaponoFor3: Eisenhower is.

Yeah, no. I have never, in all the history classes I've taken, in all the history books I have read, have I ever seen Eisenhower remember or credited for Brown v. Board.

Scalia isn't far behind Ginsburg.

which is why i threw in the "healthy and hale."

GAT_00: Yeah, no. I have never, in all the history classes I've taken, in all the history books I have read, have I ever seen Eisenhower remember or credited for Brown v. Board.

Presidents are never "credited" with a Supreme Court decision. Eisenhower certainly was aligned and took actions directly associated to the decision though. It would be analogous to Bush calling Fenty directly on the carpet to quickly enact procedures to allow District residents to obtain handguns legally.

Subby is right-this was a major accomplishment for GWB. If Sandra Day O'Connor was still on the bench, this case could have gone the other way...

j45rpm: Subby is right-this was a major accomplishment for GWB.

You might as well credit Reagan for Scalia and Kennedy being on the bench. Or credit O'Connor for retiring. Or Rehnquist for dying.

lunchinlewis: Eisenhower certainly was aligned and took actions directly associated to the decision though.

The president agreeing with it =/= he is remembered for it. Eisenhower took advantage of one of the courts good decisions. But please, continue with trying to prove the concept as a whole, Presidents are associated with Supreme Court decisions, with just one example.

GAT_00: But please, continue with trying to prove the concept as a whole, Presidents are associated with Supreme Court decisions, with just one example.

I'm not really arguing that this will be THE legacy of Bush. The conservatives will remember it fondly though. And as others have said, Eisenhower is remembered for his support of desegregation and Brown. That's just a fact whether it fits your point of view or not.

Riiight... this is why even some people who agree with the Court's decision call you a crazy farking gun nut. We have eight years of a disastrous Presidency that includes trampling the Constitution, misleading the nation into a prlonged, costly, and ill-advised war, and tanking the economy, and you accept all that shiat because his SCOTUS appointees agreed with you on the guns.

Satan_Sunburn
Don't worry, all the books written by the liberal fascists will balance it all out.

wtf? "Liberal fascists"? Are you trolling or just stupid?

This is a fitting legacy for Dubya. Someone else makes a decision about something that was written 200 years ago. All he has to do is show up for the photo op and have his pic snapped with Scalia and take credit for defending the constitution.... which he promptly wipes his ass with.

patrick767: Riiight... this is why even some people who agree with the Court's decision call you a crazy farking gun nut. We have eight years of a disastrous Presidency that includes trampling the Constitution, misleading the nation into a prlonged, costly, and ill-advised war, and tanking the economy, and you accept all that shiat because his SCOTUS appointees agreed with you on the guns.

Satan_Sunburn
Don't worry, all the books written by the liberal fascists will balance it all out.

wtf? "Liberal fascists"? Are you trolling or just stupid?

They're not mutually exclusive, you know.

lunchinlewis: I'm not really arguing that this will be THE legacy of Bush.

Well, I'd hope not, because the legacy of Dubya will be of a man who brought the world closer to the brink of destruction than any other single man in history, with the sole exception being Hitler.

/yes, Godwinned

patrick767: Are you trolling or just stupid?

That's a troll, you may remember him better as A_D

Satan_Sunburn: Pocket Ninja:

Don't worry, all the books written by the liberal fascists will balance it all out.

"liberal fascists?"

the funny thing is, if you really look at the bush administration's approach to foreign policy, you could almost describe it as "liberal fascism" - i.e. the exportation of american-style democracy at the muzzle of a gun.

EvilEgg: This one might be, it was one of his very few high points. (Besides catching that fish)

Don't forget about that drive - did you watch it?

GAT_00: a man who brought the world closer to the brink of destruction than any other single man in history, with the sole exception being Hitler.

I'd say Khrushchev, but it's not worth arguing.

Most important legacy?

Oh hell no. Part of his legacy, sure, but by no means "most important".

My 2000 vote for Bush was based entirely on his placing conservatives on the SC bench. I am pleased with the results.

Its really too bad you can't find a candidate that you can agree with on a majority of issues.

Look at it from the other side though, will the anti-gun lobby hesitate to put part of the blame for this on Bush? Probably not. It might be part of his legacy to them.

patrick767: wtf? "Liberal fascists"?

fascism ---> progressivism ---> liberalism

GAT_00: Well, I'd hope not, because the legacy of Dubya will be of a man who brought the world closer to the brink of destruction than any other single man in history, with the sole exception being Hitler.