Who would have known there was actually a person named Moe Lester living at that fake address he gave?

Next we ask financial criminals for their banking information so we can seize their assets.

That's a very serious accusation to level because it effectively ostracizes one from society. There have been a few cases of men committing suicide after having their lives ruined over false sex offense allegations.

$200K is not enough.

he'll get over it

He is being reasonable. Perhaps too reasonable. He could have demanded millions. Punishement has to be significant enough so that the payee feels punished.

blicero: he'll get over it

Actually, he probably won't since it's damn near impossible to remove that information now that it's out there, true or not.

a little early, but

Unpossible. We never punish the innocent. Just ask everyone in Gitmo.

I'd sue for a damned sight more than that. That shiat can ruin your life.

$200k is no where near enough for that.

$200k is not enough. The only way governments learn their lesson (e.g., more checks and balances in this case) is through money.

Don't let them raise taxes to cover it, just remove it from the salaries instead.

LargeCanine: He is being reasonable. Perhaps too reasonable. He could have demanded millions. Punishement has to be significant enough so that the payee feels punished.

In this day and age, $200K is equivalent to four years of indentured servitude to the average American. Yes, that is a significant punishment.

libel and slander?

200k? The cops would be getting off light at 10 times the price. There are few stigmas worse or hard to live down than this one in our modern world.

$200K sounds reasonable. That is some serious defamation there and it most defiantly is more than enough to win the case.

This reminds me of a member of one of the gun forums I go to. He bears an extremely unfortunate resemblance to the terrorist Mustafa Nasar. He said it makes going through the airport interesting.



From the thread with the photo:
Nasir was in the news one day before the wife and I were due to fly from ND (visiting relatives) back to Washington DC. So imagine a scenario where you are coming from close to the Canadian border, headed for DC, and you look like a terrorist who's photo has just been splashed all over the newspaper headlines...

Thank GOD I worked for DOJ at the time and was able to call some heavyweight folks to testify for me or my backside might have been headed to Gitmo (I kid you NOT)!

It's a funny story -now- it was most certainly NOT funny at the time!

So yea, police need to double check their stuff on serious matters like this.

IlGreven: LargeCanine: He is being reasonable. Perhaps too reasonable. He could have demanded millions. Punishement has to be significant enough so that the payee feels punished.

In this day and age, $200K is equivalent to four years of indentured servitude to the average American. Yes, that is a significant punishment.

Yes, but to the payee (the local government in this case) $200k is what they spend on toilet paper in a year. Not significant.

How about 2 million and ad's for 6 months in all the papers and Fark.

And the cops have to say on the TV news, they were stupid for not checking the authenticity of the address.

People sue for millions for a lot less.

Even if the chief of police, the President of the United States and Tom Hanks all personally wen to everyone's door and told them it was a mistake, people would still be eyeing him.

Gee, maybe these registries are not the smartest things in the public's hands. They should be for law enforcement use only, like the rest of the world.

I actually think he should direct his lawsuit at Hamady, who started the malfeasance in the first place.

If you're dong something that can f**k up someone's life forever you have to be correct.

Make it $1 billion.

Fark em.

Crosshair: Thank GOD I worked for DOJ at the time and was able to call some heavyweight folks to testify for me or my backside might have been headed to Gitmo (I kid you NOT)!

I wonder if this made him think about all of the innocent people who get railroaded in the absence of "heavyweight folks" to rely upon.

$200K? Maybe excessive. Then again, have you ever been falsely accused of a sex crime?

I known a couple of cases like this. One a guy in there 70s refused to buy alcohol for a 14 year old, so she falsely accused him. He ended up having his house firebombed and dying in the flames. Later on the girl admitted making it up.

Another case a guy was putting out a woman from his house after a break up and had told her so. Thats when she filed a police report. He spent 10 years in prison, before finally she admitted to making it up, but his life had already been ruined.

It is a serious business when this stuff happens.

If someone is so dangerous that you need fliers to announce where they live, they probably shouldn't be released. You don't have murderer fliers or white collar crime fliers.

And the biggest problem is that this guy now is farked. Stupid ass people in his neighborhood will not even care about the correction fliers. He is labeled as a sex offender (which to them means child molester) and farked.

When you set up a stupid system like a sex offender registry, you should run that shiat correctly. $200k is NOTHING.

Well, these registries sure make me feel safer.

You mean criminals lie?

limeyfellow: Thats when she filed a police report

Claiming what? Sexual assault?

It was only a matter of time before this happened. I'm just surprised that it took this long. But, what other crime causes you to be punished for life, whether you re-offend or not? All that it takes is a single accusation, not even a conviction, and you can be the target of vigilantes, ostracized by general society, lose your livelihood, and be told where to live for the rest of your life.

'For the children' or no, we've lost our balance here.

$200k? um...yeah. If I were on that city council, I'd pay up and consider the matter closed pretty cheaply. Then I'd fire the police chief and every farking officer involved in that case. THEN make sure every new hire understood the consequences of farking up a pedophile case.

Crosshair

Yeah, I would probably shave my beard and get a different hair style were I that guy.

Oh god, not another FRIVOLOUS LAWSUIT. These goddamn FRIVOLOUS LAWSUITS are RUINING AMERICA.

The police corrected the error. No harm. No foul.

Get Lost: How about 2 million and ad's for 6 months in all the papers and Fark.

And the cops have to say on the TV news, they were stupid for not checking the authenticity of the address.

This is pretty much what I was going to say. It's not like the police were sticking up fliers advertising a school bake sale. It has been proven that those sex offender fliers do more harm than good. I've seen instances where the police posted up the wrong address, and didn't notice it until the police responded to the guy living at the address they posted was beaten by the neighborhood lynch mob.

So I think it is safe to say, knowing the ramifications, this guy earns some respect for litigation restraint, and the $200,000 should be handed over with no hesitation.

Settle on a figure equal to NBC's take on running this guy for years -- including all the salaries for producers, expenses and the salaries and expenses of the all the cops that appear on camera, too.

captain_heroic44: Oh god, not another FRIVOLOUS LAWSUIT. These goddamn FRIVOLOUS LAWSUITS are RUINING AMERICA.

The police corrected the error. No harm. No foul.

Even you cannot possibly be this stupid. Given that fact, I conclude you are trolling.

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culebra:
limeyfellow: Thats when she filed a police report

Claiming what? Sexual assault?


I should probably have included that. Yes sexual assault, his word against her's so they sided with the female.

captain_heroic44: Oh god, not another FRIVOLOUS LAWSUIT. These goddamn FRIVOLOUS LAWSUITS are RUINING AMERICA.

The police corrected the error. No harm. No foul.

Too many capital letters, should have just used the second half of your comment. 6/10.

I'd sue for 200,000 + 10,000 for every day it took them to correct the error, and a uniformed police men would be forced to go door to door and explain the error to each and every person who received a flier. If they aren't home, they come back the next day.

I'd donate the 10,000 a day to a victims of rape help group.

A freind of my parents was falsely accused of child abuse in Georgia by a distant relative whom he tried to help financially. She apparently was trying to extort more money. He was convicted, then it was overturned a year later after the children confessed it was a hoax. He was anally raped and beaten nearly to death in prison. Even though he was aquitted, he is still in the registry. (not sure why, me). His life and sanity have been utterly destroyed. Is the registry really a safe tool to put in the hands of your average american?

$200,000 is way too little. Even thought the authorities have admitted their mistake, this man will continue to be branded as a sex offender.

The man in this article DESERVES millions. Why? because, a few years from now he may want to advance his career. He may find it difficult if the locals believe something obviously untrue. Once people have a set belief they are very Unlikely to change, even when strong evidence to the contrary is presented.

That's definitely lawsuit material.

$200K is cheap for the damage this could do to the man.


seminole87: You would think the fact that the dude speaks unaccented English would have clued them in.

"Woah. That guy looks just like a known terrorist!"
"Yeah, but he speaks perfect English."
"Haha you're right let him through."

Seriously, anyone who tries to debate that this is in the same ballpark as suing for 10$ million over spilling hot coffee on you, or 2$ mil for ruined pants, should go ahead and remove themselves from the conversation. If you cannot see the difference between them, do not contribute to the conversation.

On a related note, they do seem to be getting off light. This is going to follow him, no matter how many fliers they send out. The damage has been done.

I don't get what exactly the Sex Offender Registry is supposed to do. I mean, I sort of do, but I wish there were a better way to deal with the problem instead of just freaking me out about it.

I just moved out of a house that we lived in for just under a year. The first month, I looked at the registry and found out that the guy literally across the street was a registered offender for sexual assault against a minor. It scared the hell out of me and I didn't ever let my kids play in the front yard, and we finally moved away.

So maybe it keeps him in line, knowing that people are watching him, but really all it did was ruin living in that neighborhood for me. Did I just fail by not looking at the registry BEFORE moving in?

You know what really sucks? He'll get his $200,000 but the city police will never leave him alone. I'm sure he'll get stopped for bullshiat reasons, "grass on the license plate, etc..."

Relatively Obscure: $200K is cheap for the damage this could do to the man.


seminole87: You would think the fact that the dude speaks unaccented English would have clued them in.

"Woah. That guy looks just like a known terrorist!"
"Yeah, but he speaks perfect English."
"Haha you're right let him through."
"Hey, let's check his baggage anyway - I need a new digital camera."
"Dude! dibs on his laptop!"
"Haha! this job is great!"

Relatively Obscure: "Woah. That guy looks just like a known terrorist!"
"Yeah, but he speaks perfect English."
"Haha you're right let him through."

I see you've read the TSA employee training manual as well.

How do we know this guy isn't a sex offender. Best to put him on the registry now. It's the only way to keep our children safe.

/the sad thing is, some people would agree with the above statement