Welcome to the Oklahoma City bombing, ABC.

BUT MCCAIN'S WHITE!! NOW HE'S A TERRRRERRRIST!

Those like Bush/McCain are Al Qaeda's biggest recruiters.

Well, it's worth mentioning - THIS is why "OMG we have to search little old white Grandmas at the airport?????"

If it's known any one group gets a free pass, it's pretty trivial to go recruit someone from that group to do your dastardly deed, via either carrot OR stick.

Not to imply I think the current TSA implementations are great, or anything - just that whatever security measures we come up with need to not rely entirely on ethnic/economic profiling.

Random sampling is important.

Does this mean I'm allowed to shoot everybody now?

Europe hates us that much? Geez.

Take that, racial profilers.

The picture label reads "Intel Center," so it's definitely legit.

Either that guy has a massive neck, or that's a really bad photoshop.

Tanqueray
http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/files/images/080528_ray.jpg

Very nice catch.

If the NBA Finals is any sign, I think Boston will be able to save us from terrorism.

Three Crooked Squirrels: Those like Bush/McCain are Al Qaeda's biggest recruiters.

QFT

Wonder if Jews can sign up...

Won't be surprising if they get a relative increase in volunteers due to the rampant secularism and lack of religious belongingness in Western Europe and the breakdown of the community and economic hardship in Eastern Europe.

It would seem like the biggest obstacle would be whites who were not raised Muslim or around Muslims being accepted into the fold. If they are accepted without being tested over years, then Al-Qaeda will become exponentially easier to infiltrate in Europe.

Nice troll headline.

itazurakko: Well, it's worth mentioning - THIS is why "OMG we have to search little old white Grandmas at the airport?????"

If it's known any one group gets a free pass, it's pretty trivial to go recruit someone from that group to do your dastardly deed, via either carrot OR stick.

Yup, racial profiling doesn't work. The Israeli air lines have known that for years. It doesn't work not only because their are white ethnic Muslims and white converts but because Muslims on a jihad don't mind killing anybody, even their own kid if a few of the enemy can be taken out too. Take the example of Anne Mary Murphy, an Irishwoman seduced and impregnated by an Arab Muslim for the purpose of getting a bomb past airport security and onto an Israeli plane.

Link

He was right that a woman intent on marrying him would believe his story about meeting his parents in Israel (while he would be flying on a separate plane) and real close to being right that air line security wouldn't pay too much attention to a pregnant Irishwoman.

There is little-to-no connection between religion and suicide terrorism.

Suicidal Writer: Won't be surprising if they get a relative increase in volunteers due to the rampant secularism and lack of religious belongingness in Western Europe and the breakdown of the community and economic hardship in Eastern Europe.

It would seem like the biggest obstacle would be whites who were not raised Muslim or around Muslims being accepted into the fold. If they are accepted without being tested over years, then Al-Qaeda will become exponentially easier to infiltrate in Europe.

I could see them becoming disinterested in their own respective countries in Europe, but how in the world would they then in turn convince them to fix their troubles they need to attack USA targets....

time for some SEALs to convert

Suicidal Writer: There is little-to-no connection between religion and suicide terrorism.

From your link: "Suicide terrorism... (is) to compel liberal democracies to withdraw military forces from territory that the terrorists consider to be their homeland."

Then goes on to say: "Second, liberal democracies are uniquely vulnerable to suicide terrorists. The United States, France, India, Israel, Russia, Sri Lanka and Turkey have been the targets of almost every suicide attack of the past two decades"

What does this author mean when he says "liberal democracies"?

baka-san: Does this mean I'm allowed to shoot everybody now?

I always did. It's called "random profiling."

Bunnyhat: I could see them becoming disinterested in their own respective countries in Europe, but how in the world would they then in turn convince them to fix their troubles they need to attack USA targets....

That's a cause right now. Had they come of age a little while ago they would have had communism and other ideologies, but there really isn't another competing political ideology that can suck up young, middle-class males (or females) who feel they have no purpose, nor belong, and are social outcasts. If they are truly disaffected, they can learn to hate anyone, especially if the source can be seen as the cause to his (or her) troubles. If they have true radical Islamic sympathies, then hating America and Israel is par for the course.

nevirus: What does this author mean when he says "liberal democracies"?

It appears he's using it as commonly used to refer to countries with a representative government and certain liberal freedoms.

FTFA: Intelligence officials believe this person, identified as Eric B.

Who cares? Everyone knows the most dangerous thing to come out of Europe is unpasteurized cheese. And, thankfully, our government is keeping us safe from that.

Bunnyhat, nevirus

Your ignore list is curiously lacking.

Suicidal Writer: There is little-to-no connection between religion and suicide terrorism.

Excuse me? What part of, "Hey, go bomb them and you'll be rewarded with Virgins" doesn't fit religion? Religion and politics go hand and hand in that particular region of the world. What the writer of that article did was declare that since it was being carried out with military precision, it's military.

Even Al Qaeda fits this pattern: although Saudi Arabia is not under American military occupation per se, the initial major objective of Osama bin Laden was the expulsion of American troops from the Persian Gulf.

What he fails to mention is the tie-in to the belief that outsiders are attacking a religious way of life, thus must be defeated and expelled. Furthermore, the repeated use of jihad in reference to the situation between AQ and Western countries supports the connection between religion and suicide terrorism.

Finally, the way you phrased your statement appears to be an attempted 'strawman' or whatever the catchphrase is this week, as you did not directly provide the context of said connection. However, in doing so, you opened it up for another to dictate said context, thus providing room for the above response which provides more than 'little-to-no' connection.

/If you respond I expect something like, "Citations!" or drivel
//No doubt you have your own notepad full of talking points & links
///There is little-to-no connection between my suggested tone and my actual thoughts on the subject
////why are still reading these?

beoswulf: Take the example of Anne Mary Murphy, an Irishwoman seduced and impregnated by an Arab Muslim for the purpose of getting a bomb past airport security and onto an Israeli plane.

So, er, wait. These Muslim guys, they make women pregnant with bombs?


He was right that a woman intent on marrying him would believe his story about meeting his parents in Israel (while he would be flying on a separate plane) and real close to being right that air line security wouldn't pay too much attention to a pregnant Irishwoman.

Yeah, I guess so! I mean, they do cavity searches these days sometimes, but, I don't think that deeply.

DeathByGeekSquad: Excuse me? What part of, "Hey, go bomb them and you'll be rewarded with Virgins" doesn't fit religion? Religion and politics go hand and hand in that particular region of the world. What the writer of that article did was declare that since it was being carried out with military precision, it's military.

Pape himself addresses in the book. The recruitment videos don't talk about virgins. The Quar'an doesn't even guarantee 72 virgins in paradise for committing wanton murder (it's an extreme textual manipulation). It's really turning out to be of a popular misconception or at least an over-hyped one. It's partially due to the ethnocentric book The Arab Mind, which inaccurately depicts the sexuality of the Arab male, and has had undue influence on policymakers.

If you want citations, they're on the main page about half-way down.

monkeydoodledandy: Welcome to the Oklahoma City bombing, ABC.

Not al Qaeda, just a crazy white guy who read the Turner Diaries and decided to act all "rugged individualist" on the federal government.

It was only a matter of time before this, you liberals knew that, deep down. This is why we need increased security, a tightening of protocol and more national unity, and less of the taking of potshots against this administrations policies to protect this nation.

This is exactly what the enemy wants, and thanks to the Sheehans and the Olbermanns you are doing their work for them. They've outsourced their operations to this country, and both the liberal media and the left-leaning stooges that follow it are doing a fine job.

TODAY WE DIE FOR THE FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER...AND ALLAH!!!

skookum

Don't be so scared. They want you to be afraid.

skookum: It was only a matter of time before this, you liberals knew that, deep down. This is why we need increased security, a tightening of protocol and more national unity, and less of the taking of potshots against this administrations policies to protect this nation.

This is exactly what the enemy wants, and thanks to the Sheehans and the Olbermanns you are doing their work for them. They've outsourced their operations to this country, and both the liberal media and the left-leaning stooges that follow it are doing a fine job.

So, are you getting ready to strap on an explosive vest and blow up some heathen liberals?

I'm simply pointing out that we are approaching the boiling point. There is another 9/11 looming and Al Qaeda is now working in America, finding whatever crack they can in our defenses. The current anti-Bush hysteria is very likely their avenue of infiltarion. Your son or daughter could very likely get caught up in some "group" that meets after school, this is their angle, mark my words. This is not "fear," it's knowing you have the answer and the status quo is simply ignoring it to repeat history all over again.

And yes, we need McCain in office, if anything to lessen the impact of when domestic suspects are the focus of investigations. Obama has not proven he has a successful plan to deal with terror, it's really that simple.

Saint Bartholomews Day take two?

This is not amusing. There has to be some kind of a damper, preferably voluntary on certain aspects of the media until some important strides are made in the War on Terror, something along the lines of Bin Laden being captured or that Iran is disarmed or politically neutralized. This country needs unity, not the wedge liberalism is driving between our citizenry.

We need to say "enough is enough" and keep a lid on the flow of possibly dangerous information and politically-influenced ideologies. If this doesn't happen soon, we will have another attack. Only this time it will have been planned from within our borders by our very own children.

skookum: I'm simply pointing out that we are approaching the boiling point. There is another 9/11 looming and Al Qaeda is now working in America, finding whatever crack they can in our defenses. The current anti-Bush hysteria is very likely their avenue of infiltarion. Your son or daughter could very likely get caught up in some "group" that meets after school, this is their angle, mark my words. This is not "fear," it's knowing you have the answer and the status quo is simply ignoring it to repeat history all over again.

And yes, we need McCain in office, if anything to lessen the impact of when domestic suspects are the focus of investigations. Obama has not proven he has a successful plan to deal with terror, it's really that simple.

Hate to tell you this skookum, but I'm extremely anti-Bush, and I didn't even need to meet with any groups after "school" for me to become that.

And didn't you say that if McCain came into office, there'd be a giant political cleansing of Libs from the country? I'm not sure if they'd call that a safer tomorrow. And I don't know why you're pretending to campaign so much for him against Obama, since your inside knowledge of the campaign lets you know that McCain has already won. Or something

Damn it, my Boobies in this thread, and it's only me poking fun at skookum.

skookum

"There is another 9/11 looming"
"Your son or daughter could very likely get caught up in some "group" that meets after school, this is their angle"
"If this doesn't happen soon, we will have another attack"

Why are you so scared?

nevirus: skookum

"There is another 9/11 looming"
"Your son or daughter could very likely get caught up in some "group" that meets after school, this is their angle"
"If this doesn't happen soon, we will have another attack"

Why are you so scared?

That doesn't sound like fear, more like vigilance.

Benjamin the Rogue: And didn't you say that if McCain came into office, there'd be a giant political cleansing of Libs from the country?

Your needless hyperbole aside, McCain will take steps to curb some of the more invasive elements of the liberal movement. The best way to put these idiots who put out damaging propaganda like the Daily KOS is to draft them into the armed forces and put them to work. They'll be too busy to put out their self-indulgent tripe while in the service of this country.

Public opinion of liberals will change: it will be finally agreed that liberals are slackers trying to get a handout from the taxpayer trough, and their unworkable utopian exercises in futility will be summarily laughed at and treated as juvenile behavior. Parents will discourage their kids from behavior that might be considered too "liberal," the movement has already begun, and we can thank the many like Rush Limbaugh who first outed liberalism as the societal ivy it's proving to be.

And no, I am not "scared" of anything, for the 9000th time. I'm sombrely calling it like it is, and we do not have the luxury to put up with this continuing nonsense any further.

skookum: This is not amusing. There has to be some kind of a damper, preferably voluntary on certain aspects of the media

The media did voluntarily do it and that is the reason, along with herd-like mentality of Americans, why we are bogged down in the Middle East. Ever see real dissidents (i.e Chomsky, Zinn, Parenti) appear regularly on the corporate news? Dissidents have shut out, even libertarian ones, in favor of bourgeois liberals and conservatives. The biggest gain for dissidents this year was Ron Paul, but he'll be shut out again too.

The media backs the goverment.

wildcardjack: Me getting someone else to make my argument for me.

You know what, I'm kinda sick and tired of people saying the world would be a better place without religion. You know what that tells me about that person? That they're obviously naive of how people and the world really work.

Religion doesn't cause anymore problems then it solves. It's just a magnifier of peoples personalities, and their ambitions. People who are genuinely good people tend to become saint-like through religion, and people who are terrible people tend to become full blown monsters when they use religion. I certainly wouldn't say religion is perfect, but I would point out that most religions, at their cores (stick with me here) emphasize on people treating others kindly, even as family.

If there was no religion, guess what? People would still murder people for no reason, groups would still find reasons to hate, and nations would still conduct ethnic cleansing. They just wouldn't pretend to be doing it in the name of religion anymore.

I can't believe people who argue that religion is the biggest problem in the world. Jack-asses and false intellectuals, all of you.

Damn it, my Boobies in this thread, and it's only me poking fun at skookum.

Damn it! Fark Filtered!

skookum: Benjamin the Rogue: And didn't you say that if McCain came into office, there'd be a giant political cleansing of Libs from the country?

Your needless hyperbole aside, McCain will take steps to curb some of the more invasive elements of the liberal movement. The best way to put these idiots who put out damaging propaganda like the Daily KOS is to draft them into the armed forces and put them to work. They'll be too busy to put out their self-indulgent tripe while in the service of this country.

Public opinion of liberals will change: it will be finally agreed that liberals are slackers trying to get a handout from the taxpayer trough, and their unworkable utopian exercises in futility will be summarily laughed at and treated as juvenile behavior. Parents will discourage their kids from behavior that might be considered too "liberal," the movement has already begun, and we can thank the many like Rush Limbaugh who first outed liberalism as the societal ivy it's proving to be.

And no, I am not "scared" of anything, for the 9000th time. I'm sombrely calling it like it is, and we do not have the luxury to put up with this continuing nonsense any further.

Ok, I like that I'm getting to play a game of catch with you in your fantasy land of crazy, but I'd like to point out another flaw in your Creative Design here.

Do you really think it's a good idea to give extremely vocal liberals military training? Didn't you say they were working with the terrorists? I mean, if you want them put in the military to keep them busy, wouldn't it be less dangerous to just put them in government if you want to keep them busy?

Another thing, didn't we just come from an era were the Republicans ruled supreme, and Neo-Cons and Conservatives got everything they wanted? So now that the Neo-Cons have pretty much sunk that boat, and everyone hates them (yeah, about 70% I think?), how is this going according to plan for you?

Benjamin the Rogue: wildcardjack: Me getting someone else to make my argument for me.

You know what, I'm kinda sick and tired of people saying the world would be a better place without religion. You know what that tells me about that person? That they're obviously naive of how people and the world really work.

Religion doesn't cause anymore problems then it solves. It's just a magnifier of peoples personalities, and their ambitions. People who are genuinely good people tend to become saint-like through religion, and people who are terrible people tend to become full blown monsters when they use religion. I certainly wouldn't say religion is perfect, but I would point out that most religions, at their cores (stick with me here) emphasize on people treating others kindly, even as family.

If there was no religion, guess what? People would still murder people for no reason, groups would still find reasons to hate, and nations would still conduct ethnic cleansing. They just wouldn't pretend to be doing it in the name of religion anymore.

I can't believe people who argue that religion is the biggest problem in the world. Jack-asses and false intellectuals, all of you.

I am actually agreeing with you here. Religion and "God Bashing" are prevalent in alot of threads recently.