FTA: Instead, Venezuela sends what crude it does export to Europe to its own refineries there.

So the EU does use Venezuelan oil, after it's been refined by Venezuela.

Can we invade now?

B-b-but ... free healthcare in Europe!!!

This guy is much more entertaining than Castro.

The Stealth Hippopotamus [TotalFark] Quote 2008-06-20 09:47:18 AM
Can we invade now?

Sounds like a great idea. Our troops have nothing better to do right?

Man I would love to see how this guy reacts if he got the call one night, that we no longer needed any of his oil.

So if Venezuela reduced the supply of oil to the world market, it wouldn't affect the price at all?

I'll never understand why crazy people always wind up with power over a government.

Hugo has WWMD. The time has come to invade.
We need his oil we need to liberate the people, and drive up the cost of oil.

ScottMpls: This guy is much more entertaining than Castro.

He has oil, Castro had cigars.

Perhaps he should biatch about Mexico's policy which I beleive, they have a heavily guraded southern border.

Gothmolly: B-b-but ... free healthcare in Europe!!!

Yep and its terrific :)

No oil for you! Come back 1 year. NEXT!

Was he wearing his red shirt when he said this? I'm hoping that he was wearing his red shirt.

I think, even if they didn't use Venezuelan oil the effect of taking the oil out of today's artificially inflated market would cause the prices in Europe to rise. Shiat, prices rise when one refinery blows up.

Tell me if I'm wrong.

EVERYBODY PLEASE LISTEN: OIL IS FUNGIBLE. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO HE SELLS IT TO AS LONG AS HE SELLS IT. SAME GOES FOR IRAN, ETC.

DROxINxTHExWIND: I think, even if they didn't use Venezuelan oil the effect of taking the oil out of today's artificially inflated market would cause the prices in Europe to rise. Shiat, prices rise when one refinery blows up.

Tell me if I'm wrong.

So what is Chavez going to sell to keep his country afloat?

Hugoing Nowhere!

Last night... Chile 3 - 2 Venezuela... Key world cup qualification game... Game played in Venezuela

/sorry for the thread hijack, but I was very happy with the result.

// Most Venezuelans that I know are completely embarrassed by their president.

/// But then again, a lot of US citizens that I know feel the same about our president.

As an American, it really makes me feel better that my country is not the only one with a bat shiat loon as president.



But his propagandists have more style, gotta admit. I've never seen any retro-Soviet-style Bush posters, though if I did I'd save one so I could tell my kids about "that era."



Nah... fail.

Difficulty- EU doesn't use any Venezuelan oil

How the hell does that work?

"Instead, Venezuela sends what crude it does export to Europe to its own refineries there."

It's hard for me to believe that Venezuela has built refineries in Europe.

What the guy above me said, oil embargos are silly. If you are selling it to someone then embargo is a joke.

emocomputerjock: DROxINxTHExWIND: I think, even if they didn't use Venezuelan oil the effect of taking the oil out of today's artificially inflated market would cause the prices in Europe to rise. Shiat, prices rise when one refinery blows up.

Tell me if I'm wrong.

So what is Chavez going to sell to keep his country afloat?


If they start selling their women, I'll take two. Preferably sisters.

BiffDangler: EVERYBODY PLEASE LISTEN: OIL IS FUNGIBLE. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO HE SELLS IT TO AS LONG AS HE SELLS IT. SAME GOES FOR IRAN, ETC.

Personally, I would like to invade Brazil. Some of those chicks are HOT!

LOL. Look at all of the parrots.


"This guys insane...this guys insane...this guys insane..."

And I'm sure you all reached that conclusion based on your own analysis. This has NOTHING at all to do with Chavez's Bush bashing, which got him the recognition that he craved. Attention whore? Yeah, he's an attention whore. But, it was funny to me how he only became an unstable threat to US interest after he questioned Bush's involvment in 9/11. Prior to that, no one knew or cared who he was, including Bush.

All Apologies

So if Venezuela reduced the supply of oil to the world market, it wouldn't affect the price at all?

Yes it would, but if they instead sell it to someone else, which is more likely, then whoever used to be selling to them will sell it to Europe (who are now short and have money to buy it).

Seriously, that is like when he threatened to cut off the supply to the US. Considering he refines most of his oil here I would deal with higher prices for oil as we watch citgo stations shut down and venezuela's coffers go dry.

lincolncounty: Hugo has WWMD.

What Would McCain Do?

hugram:
// Most Venezuelans that I know are completely embarrassed by their president.

/// But then again, a lot of US citizens that I know feel the same about our president.

Nah, I'd say a lot of us are over that. We've been putting up with that for almost 8 years. We also had Bill Clinton. We no longer have shame after those two idiots. In fact, I'm grateful for that. It's good to be shameless.

"Difficulty- EU doesn't use any Venezuelan oil"
Kind of doubt that but if so, reminds me of the time Roseanne Barr took away my sex privileges.

lincolncounty: Personally, I would like to invade Brazil. Some of those chicks are HOT!

They have the sexiest accent in the world, too!

y'know just how stupid bush, cheney and the neocons really are? now that they've pretty much admitted that going into iraq was for the oil, why in hell didn't they just off chavez instead of saddam? venezuela is a heck of a lot closer, fits in the monroe doctrine, and chavez a heckuvva lot more annoying than saddam ever was.
plus the the girls are a lot prettier than in iraq.

emocomputerjock: DROxINxTHExWIND: I think, even if they didn't use Venezuelan oil the effect of taking the oil out of today's artificially inflated market would cause the prices in Europe to rise. Shiat, prices rise when one refinery blows up.

Tell me if I'm wrong.

So what is Chavez going to sell to keep his country afloat?
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After 7 years of rising oil prices don't you think a country who is a major exporter of oil would have a little stashed away?

But, that's not the issue being raised. The question was, could a Venezuelan embargo hurt Europe. I say, yes.

Show us your Marx: The Stealth Hippopotamus [TotalFark] Quote 2008-06-20 09:47:18 AM
Can we invade now?

Sounds like a great idea. Our troops have nothing better to do right?

I think the national guard, or perhaps even the coast guard, could handle that jackhole country....

If he stops selling oil how is he going to keep bribing the citizens to not lynch him?

BiffDangler: EVERYBODY PLEASE LISTEN: OIL IS FUNGIBLE. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO HE SELLS IT TO AS LONG AS HE SELLS IT. SAME GOES FOR IRAN, ETC.

THIS. Anybody who doesn't understand this concept should go learn what "fungible" means before they ever try to comment on any economic issues.

/ it's in the dictionary
// a little before "money laundering"

blick: y'know just how stupid bush, cheney and the neocons really are? now that they've pretty much admitted that going into iraq was for the oil, why in hell didn't they just off chavez instead of saddam? venezuela is a heck of a lot closer, fits in the monroe doctrine, and chavez a heckuvva lot more annoying than saddam ever was.
plus the the girls are a lot prettier than in iraq.

So, we're invading countries because people "annoy" us now? Good job, Bush. The bar has been lowered.

DROxINxTHExWIND: LOL. Look at all of the parrots.


"This guys insane...this guys insane...this guys insane..."

And I'm sure you all reached that conclusion based on your own analysis. This has NOTHING at all to do with Chavez's Bush bashing, which got him the recognition that he craved. Attention whore? Yeah, he's an attention whore. But, it was funny to me how he only became an unstable threat to US interest after he questioned Bush's involvment in 9/11. Prior to that, no one knew or cared who he was, including Bush.

I despise George Bush.
Hugo Chavez isn't a threat.
Hugo Chavez is bat-shiat crazy.

Happy now?

/Poster want a cracker?

It doesn't matter whether the EU uses 'their oil' or not.

If supplies decrease worldwide, it will increase the price worldwide, not just for the EU.

-1 Subby

xria: All Apologies

So if Venezuela reduced the supply of oil to the world market, it wouldn't affect the price at all?

Yes it would, but if they instead sell it to someone else, which is more likely, then whoever used to be selling to them will sell it to Europe (who are now short and have money to buy it).

Appreciate it, I understood the implications of reducing supply though, the headline is stupid.

Venezuelan oil is crap. What I mean by that is if you rank oil by usefulness, North Sea crude is near the top and Venezuelan oil is near the bottom.

BuzzBoy: It's hard for me to believe that Venezuela has built refineries in Europe.

Why? They own refineries in the US, built by Cities Services (now CITGO.)

emocomputerjock: DROxINxTHExWIND: I think, even if they didn't use Venezuelan oil the effect of taking the oil out of today's artificially inflated market would cause the prices in Europe to rise. Shiat, prices rise when one refinery blows up.

Tell me if I'm wrong.

So what is Chavez going to sell to keep his country afloat?

Gold?

dogdaze

Frankly, I've no idea what that picture is trying to convey.

The only oil refineries that can process Venezuelan oil are in The United States, or are owned by American refineries.

Jacobin: It doesn't matter whether the EU uses 'their oil' or not.

If supplies decrease worldwide, it will increase the price worldwide, not just for the EU.

-1 Subby

I'm unsure it's that simple. From what I've read, Hugo's oil is not the same as other countries' oil. It's heavy and dirty and requires a lot more work in the refining process. Also, Chavez hasn't a fleet of oceanhardy tankers to make delivery to anywhere much beyond American ports a feasible reality. Basically, he sells to America and europe because his margin is positive only in those places. So, Venezuelan oil might not be a homogenous worldwide commodity.

give me doughnuts: DROxINxTHExWIND: LOL. Look at all of the parrots.


"This guys insane...this guys insane...this guys insane..."

And I'm sure you all reached that conclusion based on your own analysis. This has NOTHING at all to do with Chavez's Bush bashing, which got him the recognition that he craved. Attention whore? Yeah, he's an attention whore. But, it was funny to me how he only became an unstable threat to US interest after he questioned Bush's involvment in 9/11. Prior to that, no one knew or cared who he was, including Bush.

I despise George Bush.
Hugo Chavez isn't a threat.
Hugo Chavez is bat-shiat crazy.

Happy now?

/Poster want a cracker?
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Care to share a few examples of his insanity outside of, "Bush is the Devil", which I personally don't think is insane at all?

/Google to the rescue!

lincolncounty: Personally, I would like to invade Brazil. Some of those chicks are HOT!

Venezuela's fillies ain't half bad, either. Now I'm off to find the Alicia Machado anal video...