Cookoo for coco puffs...

Agree or not, this should at least receive debate by the full committee.

Frodo will take the ring.

The sad thing is you could probably actually come up with 95 reasons to impeach the current president.

Awesome headline subby...

Man up, Nancy!

If anything, a debate really should happen. I happen to think that it's not a waste of time, even if the decision is to not impeach, it remains important to at least address the issue and settle it, rather than try to ignore it until November.

On the other hand, I'm not a politician.

Waste of time! He's got 6 months left. Time to move on!

The Beacon Man: tiiger, I think you're right. For the few months left before the election, the headlines should be all about democrats trying to impeach President Bush.


That's a great idea...


They don't have to have a full debate about each point, but someone should step forward and say, "Dennis, we appreciate the work, but you're a little late. We aren't going to tie up this committee or Congress for the next couple months to oust a guy that will be gone shortly after whether we do anything about this or not."

Put it on the record, vote it down, and move on. It'll shut him up, and it won't look like they're afraid to talk about it.

This is nice of Dennis, but the grownups are trying to win an election this November.

The Dems are on track to win in a landslide and they don't want to do anything that might fark it up. They are right,

ollin: Frodo will take the ring.

Though he does not know the way.

I fail to see why this is not important to them, when the President and Vice President have failed and deceived and looted the country so blatantly.

Any other country would be stringin' em up.

What gives?

Troy McClure: Put it on the record, vote it down, and move on. It'll shut him up, and it won't look like they're afraid to talk about it.

But does that establish a legal precedent that these charges are impeachable? I don't want that.

Either prosecute swiftly - as long as it is a fair investigation - or tie it up in committee and don't establish any bad precedents. Given that a fair investigation won't move fast, you can guess where I stand.

davynelson: I fail to see why this is not important to them, when the President and Vice President have failed and deceived and looted the country so blatantly.

Any other country would be stringin' em up.

What gives?

Because rich people are making money off of them. Lots of rich people making lots of money.

Transfer of wealth, you know. Concentrate supply into the hands of a few then jack all the prices up. Overnight, millions of people lose billions of dollars.

It's going to get worse before it gets better.

This is nice of Dennis, but the grownups are trying to win an election this November.

You know what, that's bullshiat. I'm sick and tired of people ignoring what is the right thing to do because it's not politically convenient. And I'm even more tired of we, the people, letting them get away with this.

If a man is 90 years old and is convicted of murder, he still goes to jail. They don't say, "oh, well, he's old. Just wait a few years and it'll all take care of itself." Crimes may have been committed by this administration. To say that no investigation will take place or even a debate to see whether or not illegal and inappropriate activities were undertaken by the office of the President because it may look petty is absolutely ridiculous.

For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?

I don't care if Dennis Kucinich makes valid points or what his arguments are because he is SHORT! Ha ha! SHORT!



/goes back to watching "Ow! My Balls!"

ericbo84: The sad thing is you could probably actually come up with 95 reasons to impeach the current president.

Over 4000.

glassa: Waste of time! He's got 6 months left. Time to move on!

Who cares if that 80-year-old guy kidnapped and murdered a little girl? He's gonna die in six months anyway.

NotWithoutAsswelts: This is nice of Dennis, but the grownups are trying to win an election this November.

The Dems are on track to win in a landslide and they don't want to do anything that might fark it up. They are right,

The grownups can do something about it now instead of letting this administration continue to make fools of the entire nation.

No one in the Dem leadership is going to be stupid enough to gamble the biggest landslide in 100 years so they can feel good about themselves.

Grow the fark up.

Taking the White House back is a much bigger win than impeaching Bush.

glassa: Waste of time! He's got 6 months left. Time to move on!

Yes, why waste time impeaching someone that deserves it more than any president in this nation's history because he's only got a few months left?

And why bother to let future George Bush's know that if you fark with the Constitution and break the laws of this land that there will be consequences?

Let's just let him serve the rest of his term and let him get away scott free. Great idea.

quizzical: But does that establish a legal precedent that these charges are impeachable? I don't want that.

Either prosecute swiftly - as long as it is a fair investigation - or tie it up in committee and don't establish any bad precedents. Given that a fair investigation won't move fast, you can guess where I stand.

I mean to have the committee put it on record and vote it down. If the committee votes it down, it is dead for good and not hanging out in limbo. That shouldn't take all too long.

CravenMorehead: Yes, why waste time impeaching someone that deserves it more than any president in this nation's history because he's only got a few months left?

Because it won't work. They won't get the 2/3 needed, so why bother?

NotWithoutAsswelts: This is nice of Dennis, but the grownups are trying to win an election this November.

The Dems are on track to win in a landslide and they don't want to do anything that might fark it up. They are right,

Because making sure your side wins is what's important. Only stupid petulant kids are worried about that whole justice nonsense. Real grownups care about getting in power so they can have their chance at abusing the people!

Ok subby, you made me laugh. Lollipop guild.

*snerk*

NotWithoutAsswelts: No one in the Dem leadership is going to be stupid enough to gamble the biggest landslide in 100 years so they can feel good about themselves.

Grow the fark up.

Taking the White House back is a much bigger win than impeaching Bush.


George Washington wants a word with you. He's out back with Nathan Hale. Enjoy.

Therion: Man up, Nancy!

And YOU just made me leave the thread to go find my girlfriend

/shakes tiny fist

Troy McClure: CravenMorehead: Yes, why waste time impeaching someone that deserves it more than any president in this nation's history because he's only got a few months left?

Because it won't work. They won't get the 2/3 needed, so why bother?

It's not a matter of if you win or not, it's a matter of doing what's right. These people are elected to serve the will of the people, and to not do something 'because we won't win' is a disservice to the entire idea of a democracy.

What you're espousing is a defeatist attitude that leads to stagnation.
My riding in Canada is a Liberal Party stronghold. It doesn't mean that the NDP and the Conservative party don't campaign here. It's a guaranteed loss, but they still put the effort in to win it, despite it being a lost cause.

Therion: Man up, Nancy!

Just want you to know I'm not upset that you posted this seemingly irrelevant picture.

out of curiosity, can they do this sort of thing once Bush is out of office? Or does that also set up a very bad precedence?


On one hand, I'd like to see Bush impeached. but on the other hand, this isn't just another election year. I think this election really counts for something and is too big of a gamble for the democrats, or more specifically, Obama.

NotWithoutAsswelts: This is nice of Dennis, but the grownups are trying to win an election this November.

The Dems are on track to win in a landslide and they don't want to do anything that might fark it up. They are right,

Considering Bush's low approval ratings and the distaste in general Americans feel toward the war and administration, impeachment proceedings may not doom the Democratic party in November. Really the biggest hurdle they face is themselves, in the form of Obama's race and the possible catastrophes at the Dem convention in Summer.

Besides, regardless of how you interpret the pragmatic effects of an impeachment proceeding, accountability is needed. Clinton was raked over the coals because of a blowjob. Bush has done so many more terrible things that he really deserves to be put on trial. Besides, Clinton, still a relatively popular president at the time, had impeachment proceedings driven almost entirely by Republicans, and yet the Republicans still took the white house the following election. So no, I don't see how an impeachment proceeding against Bush would be all that bad for the Democrats.

And ridiculous shenanigans like this should put the Left to bed quickly. Bush will not being impeached, you couldn't even find a suitable spokesman for your cause.

When McCain wins this election, I assure you he is going to clean up this nonsense and thanks to a few kooks in the corner, it's going to be a little more difficult to waste taxpayer resources and staffing for the Witchhunt of the Week. It's over. Face it. No, Obama isn't going to come to your rescue. He will not be elected, even if he were to tone down some of his socialist rhetoric and appeal to the real American, experience and commitment to current policy is going to win out. And Dennis Kucinich will very likely not ever hold a public office again. He's finished.

skookum: And ridiculous shenanigans like this should put the Left to bed quickly. Bush will not being impeached, you couldn't even find a suitable spokesman for your cause.

When McCain wins this election, I assure you he is going to clean up this nonsense and thanks to a few kooks in the corner, it's going to be a little more difficult to waste taxpayer resources and staffing for the Witchhunt of the Week. It's over. Face it. No, Obama isn't going to come to your rescue. He will not be elected, even if he were to tone down some of his socialist rhetoric and appeal to the real American, experience and commitment to current policy is going to win out. And Dennis Kucinich will very likely not ever hold a public office again. He's finished.

Stop projecting your fear onto others, little man.

Why is it that when a president lies about a getting a BJ, it's a huge deal and worthy of impeachment, but when the next president lies lead us into a war that costs thousands of lives, has total disregard for the rules of the Constitution and Geneva Convention and one guy has the balls to do what needs to be done he's called a kook and his charges part of a "witch hunt" by the same people that screeched for Clinton's head?



/skookum is a moran.

eh, on second thought, skookum is probably a troll.

tiiger: It's not a matter of if you win or not, it's a matter of doing what's right. These people are elected to serve the will of the people, and to not do something 'because we won't win' is a disservice to the entire idea of a democracy.

Are you new to this politics thing? I'm telling you why they won't do it, and you're trying to tell me about right and wrong. That's great and all, but right and wrong have not played a role in D.C.'s politics for well over 200 years now.

Winning the White House is an infinitely bigger deal than impeaching Bush.

He didn't get impeach but he is getting the everloving shiat kicked out of him at the ballot box.

For the second time in two years.

With the result of President Obama and huge majorities in Congress.

The Republican Party destroyed.

Bush isn't getting away with a goddamn thing.

excusemesenator: Why is it that when a president lies about a getting a BJ, it's a huge deal and worthy of impeachment, but when the next president lies lead us into a war that costs thousands of lives, has total disregard for the rules of the Constitution and Geneva Convention and one guy has the balls to do what needs to be done he's called a kook and his charges part of a "witch hunt" by the same people that screeched for Clinton's head?

Well Kucinich is pretty out there politically, in a way the left-equivalent of Ron Paul. Because of his political outsider status when he does do something not only "right" (depending on your political beliefs) but also sensible and idealistic from a mainstream point of view, he is still demonized. It doesn't help that he looks goofy.

excusemesenator : Why is it that when a president lies under oathabout a getting a BJ, it's a huge deal and worthy of impeachment.......

Let me fix that for you...make more sense now? If you or I would have done the same, we would be in the slammer right now. I could care less about the BJ, we've all done worse.

If Bush can be proven to have broken the law, then he SHOULD go to jail...or have to spend the night with Hillary.

Troy McClure: Because it won't work. They won't get the 2/3 needed, so why bother?

Why bother? Really?

This country used to do what was right, even if it was hard/impossible. And I would rather see congress spend all of it's remaining time in session on impeachment than do anything else at this point.

skookum: And ridiculous shenanigans like this should put the Left to bed quickly. Bush will not being impeached, you couldn't even find a suitable spokesman for your cause.

When McCain wins this election, I assure you he is going to clean up this nonsense and thanks to a few kooks in the corner, it's going to be a little more difficult to waste taxpayer resources and staffing for the Witchhunt of the Week. It's over. Face it. No, Obama isn't going to come to your rescue. He will not be elected, even if he were to tone down some of his socialist rhetoric and appeal to the real American, experience and commitment to current policy is going to win out. And Dennis Kucinich will very likely not ever hold a public office again. He's finished.

Kucinich has been like this for years; I'm sure he will win reelection again. Being seen as a kook by many mainstream voters didn't hurt Paul in his reelection.

/just responding for the hell of it

excusemesenator: /skookum is a moran.

Who?

/Only person I have on ignore.

skookum: When McCain wins this election, I assure you he is going to clean up this nonsense and thanks to a few kooks in the corner, it's going to be a little more difficult to waste taxpayer resources and staffing for the Witchhunt of the Week. It's over. Face it. No, Obama isn't going to come to your rescue. He will not be elected, even if he were to tone down some of his socialist rhetoric and appeal to the real American, experience and commitment to current policy is going to win out. And Dennis Kucinich will very likely not ever hold a public office again. He's finished.

Grasp of reality = 1/10
Troll rating = 1/10

FAIL

bush only killed over 1 million iraqi civilians and 6000 of our troops over the past 5 years ...LET HIM LEAVE IN DIGNITY!
NO TIME LEFT! WE HAVE TO GET OUR EMPTY SUIT WHO WONT STOP THE WAR INTO OFFICE!

If they had the votes they would impeach him. They know the Republicans won't go for it so why bother? But if any President ever deserved impeachment it's this douche we have now.

And I really see no reason to rate my postings, and yes, this is a witch hunt. I have challenged Fark to present even one instance of where Bush has broken the law and that his actions warrant impeachment. They don't. And no, Iraq and the Patriot War don't count. Both had bi-partisan support, and what's more Bush would win overwhelmingly if he were given the opportunity to run in this race, I'll have you know. This is nonsense, and it's Kucinich that should be censured, if not outright tossed into the streets of Washington.

Heh, it is a skookum. In the wild it lies and lies to sucker it's prey into it's net. It is a very dangerous creature. At fark...it is just a troll.

I'll even go as far to say that Kucinich will be among the first to feel the crackdown that will take place under a McCain Presidency. Kucinich, Olbermann, Cindy Sheehan, and other rabble-rousing drains on our society are going to be feeling the heat in the next few years, I mean it.

quizzical: Troy McClure: Put it on the record, vote it down, and move on. It'll shut him up, and it won't look like they're afraid to talk about it.

But does that establish a legal precedent that these charges are impeachable? I don't want that.

Either prosecute swiftly - as long as it is a fair investigation - or tie it up in committee and don't establish any bad precedents. Given that a fair investigation won't move fast, you can guess where I stand.

The more significant and dangerous precedent is telling the President that he may breach his oath of office without consequence.

Farking bush GOPers. Eat shiat and die.

mythicknight: Cookoo for coco puffs...

Cookoo so restore checks and balances, restore habeas corpus, and restore personal rights against government invasion?

Right, cookoo. Gotcha.