submitter: Cindy McCain says candidate's families should be left out of campaign. Which has nothing to do with her husband cheating on, then leaving his first wife to marry her, a mult-millionaire heiress; it's purely a matter of principle

You forgot the part about stealing drugs for your addiction, subby

i applaud cindy doing this regardless of her motivation. mostly because i highly doubt obama would go after her either way, so in all honesty, she wasn't in danger.

What's she worried about?

It's not like her last name is Heinz.

burndtdan: i applaud cindy doing this regardless of her motivation. mostly because i highly doubt obama would go after her either way, so in all honesty, she wasn't in danger.

What Obama does or doesn't do personally isn't the problem. It's the rogue "over zealous staffer" on his cmapaign and a candidate's supporters that do all the damage. Remember Bush wasn't responsible for Swift Boat Veterans for Truth either.

So she's urging the ring-wing smear machine to quit making up stuff about Michelle Obama?

Was this before or after she criticized Obama's wife for what she said?

SchlingFo: Was this before or after she criticized Obama's wife for what she said?

came in here to say this

SchlingFo: Was this before or after she criticized Obama's wife for what she said?

I had the same thought. Is this like when you are 5 playing tag and you hit the person and then say "No backsies!" (new window)

It's like rrraaaeeeeaaanneee!
On your wedding day!

Actually, it's a worse misidentification of irony than that song. Submitter has managed to put the Irony tag on something that is the opposite of irony.

Damn, that is one tough looking broad.

Yeah... I think you don't have too much room to talk there, sweetie...

Link (new window)

If you want to be left out of the campaign, then stop troweling on the make-up like a trollop, you khunnt.

Tastes Like Chicken: SchlingFo: Was this before or after she criticized Obama's wife for what she said?

I had the same thought. Is this like when you are 5 playing tag and you hit the person and then say "No backsies!" (new window)

I think it occured to someone in her campaign that they've run out of ammo on Michelle Obama and realized just how vulnerable McCain and his wife are to the exact same attacks that they've used on her.

She has mean, schemey eyes; you can see it in her eyes.

She's a coont.

/what? her husband said it first.

dillenger69:/what? her husband said it first.
Only slightly more credible that the Whitey smear.

"That Cindy McCain is one smart, sexy lady..."

Unright:So she's urging the ring-wing smear machine to quit making up stuff about Michelle Obama?
Hahahahahahahahahahaha.
No.

If Michelle Obama keeps making herself the issue by making anti-American statements, then that's her own problem.

While I agree with the sentiment, I abhor the thought of a world in which I would not be introduced to Billy Carter.

McCainDemocrat: If Michelle Obama keeps making herself the issue by making anti-American statements, then that's her own problem.

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burndtdan: i applaud cindy doing this regardless of her motivation. mostly because i highly doubt obama would go after her either way, so in all honesty, she wasn't in danger.

You mean right after she was attacking Michelle? Yeah thats really principled.

I read on a blog that Michelle Obama called Cindy McCain a coont.

Important to note that, while stealing drugs from your charity isn't great, the real issue here is McCain's own actions, not his wife's.

Divorce, cheating, possibly disrespectful conduct, etc.

Any qualms you may have against Michelle Obama are based on her actions.

burndtdan: i applaud cindy doing this regardless of her motivation. mostly because i highly doubt obama would go after her either way, so in all honesty, she wasn't in danger.

However, she's fair game for those of us who aren't affiliated with his campaign. They opened that door by going after Michelle Obama; well, I don't think Michelle vs. Cindy is going to be a favorable comparison for Cindy.

Gwendolyn: Remember Bush wasn't responsible for Swift Boat Veterans for Truth either.

Do you actually believe that? I'd bet big money it was done with secret coordination.

Tell me if I'm being too republican, but there is a big difference between someone dredging up old deamons that Cindy beat and saying during the race for the presidency that you are proud of your country for the FIRST TIME IN YOUR ADULT LIFE! Keep spouting off anti-american semitism Michelle. You're one of the best players on the republican team. Personal life needs to be kept personal. But when you spout off in a public forum you should can be a target like everyone else.

Sorry, Cindy. Pay back's a biatch. You dish it out, you'd better be prepared to take it. Who's proud of this country now?

weak66: Tell me if I'm being too republican, but there is a big difference between someone dredging up old deamons that Cindy beat and saying during the race for the presidency that you are proud of your country for the FIRST TIME IN YOUR ADULT LIFE! Keep spouting off anti-american semitism Michelle. You're one of the best players on the republican team. Personal life needs to be kept personal. But when you spout off in a public forum you should can be a target like everyone else.

Guess what: only Republicans care about this fake patriotism bullshiat with that statement and lapel pins, etc.

Mnemia:
Guess what: only Republicans care about this fake patriotism bullshiat with that statement and lapel pins, etc.

And, I might add, even they only care in that it's a way to attack their enemies.

McCainDemocrat: If Michelle Obama keeps making herself the issue by making anti-American statements, then that's her own problem.

What do you mean KEEP? Name one other than the "For the first time I'm proud..."

weak66: Keep spouting off anti-american semitism Michelle.

What the hell does that even mean? Um, it's babble.

SYLLABICATION: Sem·i·tism
PRONUNCIATION: sm-tzm
NOUN: 1. A Semitic word or idiom. 2. Semitic traits, attributes, or customs. 3. A policy or predisposition in favor of Jews.

Nothing will impress Clinton backers more than the Obamacrats smearing another woman in the general election.

Barack's Bullies can win a street fight, but they won't win the election.

Good ole Candi McCain. She'll criticize the snot out of you, but she can't take the payback.

Remember Farkers!

Cindy abusing prescription drugs is fair game.

But Barack being a drug addict and a cocaine user is off limits.

MorrisBird: What the hell does that even mean? Um, it's babble.

A lot of Republicans have problems with coherent thought.

That being said, there was nothing un-American about Michelle's comment. I can't stand how so many Republicans get all upset when you suggest that ANYTHING about America is less than perfect.

OlafTheBent: What's she worried about?

It's not like her last name is Heinz.

Yeah, but Cindy McCain is a thief and a junky. Also, there's some substantial speculation that her and John were "together" before he ever divorced his first wife.

I believe that Barack and Michelle Obama have also both said "Leave the Candidates' families out of this."

And that would be more than fair enough. I don't care what the wife does, I care what the candidate has to offer.

I'd LOVE to see both of them do what they're saying and leave the family out of it.

Someone upthread said "over zealous staffers are the danger." That may be so, moving forward, and I hope people also manage to not lose sight of what comes from the candidates and what comes from 3rd parties.

McCainDemocrat: Remember Farkers!

Cindy abusing prescription drugs is fair game.

Cool! So saying she's a pill popping, plagiarizing home wrecker is no longer out of bounds. I guess you guys CAN handle the truth. The more you know (I guess).

Shvetz: Yeah, but Cindy McCain is a thief and a junky. Also, there's some substantial speculation that her and John were "together" before he ever divorced his first wife.

Seems likely, considering their marriage was about a month after his divorce. Even if you think it's bad form to go after Cindy, that one, and the whole "leaving your disabled wife for a younger, richer, prettier model" thing reflects on John McCain himself.

/This button isn't racist, is it?

McCain didn't meet Cindy Hensley until four or five years after his divorce to his first wife.

Phoenix_M: McCain didn't meet Cindy Hensley until four or five years after his divorce to his first wife.

False, though they had been separated earlier.

If candidates' family members want to be left out of the campaign, then they shouldn't actively participate in it. If they go around giving speeches, interviews, etc., then they're fair game.

Skeptos: If candidates' family members want to be left out of the campaign, then they shouldn't actively participate in it. If they go around giving speeches, interviews, etc., then they're fair game.

Especially if they explicitly go after the other candidate's spouse, like Cindy McCain did. I know that Obama won't do it, but it's inevitable that people will bring this stuff up. Republicans wouldn't hesitate to use any dirt on Obama's wife against him, so I'm not going to hesitate either. Plus, as I said above, a lot of the stuff about Cindy McCain also reflects very badly on John McCain.

Well, a political thread with McCainDemocrat being an asshole. Must be Thursday.

DrowningLessons: Well, a political thread with McCainDemocrat being an asshole. Must be Thursday.

Don't feed the annoying trolls. I demand that trolls at least be entertaining before I engage them.

Phoenix_M: McCain didn't meet Cindy Hensley until four or five years after his divorce to his first wife.

Depends on what your definition of the word "meet" is.

Spouse Carol Shepp (m. 1965, div. 1980)
Cindy Hensley McCain (m. 1980)

Mnemia: DrowningLessons: Well, a political thread with McCainDemocrat being an asshole. Must be Thursday.

Don't feed the annoying trolls. I demand that trolls at least be entertaining before I engage them.

I normally don't feed trolls, but danlpoon and all his alts is actually somewhat entertaining to take down. Every once in a while myself or someone else slams him so hard he suddenly disappears from a thread he's been in the entire day. That's such a rewarding experience. :D

GAT_00: McCainDemocrat: If Michelle Obama keeps making herself the issue by making anti-American statements, then that's her own problem.

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Doooooooood! That's not pot talking... That's 'shrooms, man.

Phoenix_M: McCain didn't meet Cindy Hensley until four or five years after his divorce to his first wife.

What kind of time machine was he using, dude?