In the breadbox of things that matter, this is barely a crumb.

Let's move on, people.

Well, this changes EVERYTHING!

I guess I'll vote for the guy who doesn't know the difference between Shiite and Sunni, voted against veterans benefits because they were "too good," and wants to stay in Iraq 10,000 years.

In other news, it is Conservative Day here on Fark, with tomorrow of course being Liberal Day.

The problem is that Obama isn't going to use a cadre of 527s to attack his opponent but the RNC will, he would be at a big disadvantage to go with public funding and then get outspent by the new generation of swift boaters. - whitey boaters? Terrorist fist jab boaters?

Public financing prevents corruption because it means that campaigns don't come down to who gets more money from special interest lobbyists.

Obama doesn't accept money from lobbyists. Two paths to the same goal.

omg obama sux hes such a fake guy LOL KOOL AID DRINKERS u think cuz he made a psech hes some kind of guy with a plan or LOL ideas wtf noobs hes a muslim terrorist womanizing murderer
AND HE SMOKSE CIGRATEES IN PICHURES lol

LOL

Wait a second. Are you telling me that politicians change their minds and policies over the years?

This is an outrage, and we need a constitutional amendment to protect the sanctity of staying the course, no matter the consequences.

Who's with me? Who's with me?!

jbeatty: the new generation of swift boaters. - whitey boaters? Terrorist fist jab boaters?

Eeeevil racist preacher boaters.

in b4 McCainDemocrat trolling

Is it me or does Obama sound more and more like a douche nozzle with each passing day.

GAT_00: In other news, it is Conservative Day here on Fark, with tomorrow of course being Liberal Day.

It's Libertarian Day every four years.

Well, except for centuries not divisible by 400, I mean.

PATS0707: Is it me or does Obama sound more and more like a douche nozzle with each passing day.

Concern troll is concerned.

The thing is, Obama's money - at least so far - has come largely from individual donors - I gave him $20 for example.

seminole87: I hate republicans more than I have ever hated anything in my life.

You go girl!

cheshirecatsmileyface: In the breadbox of things that matter, this is barely a crumb.

Let's move on, people.

Yeah, let's move on. Yeah!! Change! Hope!

Reverend Otis: Wait a second. Are you telling me that politicians change their minds and policies over the years?

You're right goddammit. Let's just forget this. Hope and change matter. Obama's not a normal politician.

PATS0707: Is it me or does Obama sound more and more like a douche nozzle with each passing day.

It's just you. I listened to his latest speech, and it was devoid of the usual *Splorch dribble goop splat pweef twarfle spoot* sound effects tied to douche nozzles.

TheCid:PATS0707: Is it me or does Obama sound more and more like a douche nozzle with each passing day.
Concern troll is concerned.
It's my opinion

A hypocritical politician from Chicago? I'm shocked.

TheCid:Public financing prevents corruption because it means that campaigns don't come down to who gets more money from special interest lobbyists.
Obama doesn't accept money from lobbyists. Two paths to the same goal.
This.
I'm still disappointed in his reversal, but it increases his election chances while simultaneously avoiding corruption issues. In other words, it makes a certain degree of sense. He shouldn't have gone out on that limb to begin with.

Y'know, his financingiscoming from the public.

PATS0707:It's my opinion
I, for one, care a lot. Thanks.

seminole87:I hate republicans more than I have ever hated anything in my life.
Guess that means lots of angry sex in your future.

Just tell them what they want to hear and it doesn't have to be anything you believe.

Like you can trust a Daley Machine Chicago Democrat to fight corruption.
Obama has no record on fighting corruption. McCain has an ironclad record.
The closest thing Obama has to fighting for openness is a bill he stole from John McCain.

Oh, for only one-tenth of this hyperactive coverage about this faux flip-flop to be applied to McCain's myriad real ones...tax cuts...torture...et cetera...et cetera...

Obama is financed by individual American voters, not special interests that have corrupted their government.

It's interesting to see a "conservative" (supposedly a proponent of self-reliance) sucking off the government teat while liberals (supposedly a proponent of social welfare) heavily canvasing individual voters for money.
I'm not sure how John McCain is going to get any leverage out of this. The Obama campaign has managed to get gobs and gobs of money by asking lots of individual donors to give a little bit of money. McCain has failed at getting any money because he has appealed to traditional GOP lobbyists and activists for huge amounts of money. Public financing of elections just isn't the type of thing that galvanizes voters. Hell, most people don't even check the box when they fill out their taxes to donate a couple of bucks.

Poopspasm:I'm still disappointed in his reversal
Perhaps he should have taken the money and then returned it? Perhaps he was betting that if people would look why he made this decision, they would see that this is a good thing. Perhaps. Hell, all I know is thatseminole87is gonna get lots of angry sex.

cheshirecatsmileyface:In the breadbox of things that matter, this is barely a crumb.
Let's move on, people.
Yeah, let's move on. Yeah!! Change! Hope!
Reverend Otis:Wait a second. Are you telling me that politicians change their minds and policies over the years?
You're right goddammit. Let's just forget this. Hope and change matter. Obama's not a normal politician.

McCainDemocratMcCain has an ironclad record.
Alan Cranston (D-CA), Dennis DeConcini (D-AZ), John Glenn (D-OH), Donald W. Riegle (D-MI), and Charles H. Keating, Jr. agree!

And just what do you have against Obama changing his mind on certain issuesracistmitter?

Poopspasm:TheCid:Public financing prevents corruption because it means that campaigns don't come down to who gets more money from special interest lobbyists.
Obama doesn't accept money from lobbyists. Two paths to the same goal.
This.
I'm still disappointed in his reversal, but it increases his election chances while simultaneously avoiding corruption issues. In other words, it makes a certain degree of sense. He shouldn't have gone out on that limb to begin with.
I agree, but I think Obama thought that McCain wouldn't work with 527s due to his history with them. It now appears McCain is going to happily use 527s so Obama needs to change his plan.
The fact that Obama doesn't take money from Lobbyists is pretty cool.

Good for you, Barack!
He's going to take some political heat for this in the short run, but in the long run he wins. He could quite literally stand to raise $300,000,000 more than McCain.
$2300 of that will come from me and $2300 more from my wife.
He's fundamentally correct that the system is broken. He needs to defend himself from well-funded Republican attack organizations that will emerge. He won't be able to do this if takes the public funding.

rppp01a:Perhaps he should have taken the money and then returned it? Perhaps he was betting that if people would look why he made this decision, they would see that this is a good thing. Perhaps. Hell, all I know is thatseminole87is gonna get lots of angry sex.
No, I agree that he might have been thinking along those lines. But people won't look at why he's doing it, just that he's doing it. Hell, just read this thread--the mouthbreathers finally have some poop to fling. They're loving life.

The Cuba embargo In January 2004, Obama said it was time "to end the embargo with Cuba" because it had "utterly failed in the effort to overthrow Castro." Speaking to a Cuban American audience in Miami in August 2007, he said he would not "take off the embargo" as president because it is "an important inducement for change."

The Beacon Man:Rovian:Obama is financed by individual American voters
You mean like Tony Rezko?
Did Rezko contribute to his presidential campaign? I thought he only contributed about $2k to his state senate campaign.

The Beacon Man:Another day, another lie from BarackHusseinObama.
I just want to say that if it weren't for his middle name, I'd be an Obama supporter.

I'll add what I usually say in the "public financing of elections" threads:
You don't need to truck in dirt to level a racetrack. You just need to push around what's already there.
/Just because Candidate A has a lot more money than Candidate B does not mean you have to take money from Innocent Bystander C. If you absolutely *must* take money from someone, Candidate A is sitting there with a pile of cash that people just gave him.

jbeatty:I agree, but I think Obama thought that McCain wouldn't work with 527s due to his history with them. It now appears McCain is going to happily use 527s so Obama needs to change his plan.
The fact that Obama doesn't take money from Lobbyists is pretty cool.
Agreed. 527's are the scum of the earth.
BTW, WTF is going on with line spacing?

You know what else helps prevent corruption? Having 1,500,000+ mostly smalltime donors instead of a bunch of fatcats that will later ask for favors.

Republicans change their positions when it suits their greedy needs. Obama's changes are changes we can believe in.

Scorecard:
Obama Flip-Flops: 1
McCain Flip-Flops: 1,587,276.5
I think I'll stick with Obama.

Just here to say that if you say Obama's whole name including his middle one of Hussein, and it isn't satire...
you're a douche.
/that is all.

radioshack:Republicans change their positions when it suits their greedy needs. Obama's changes are changes we can believe in.
Your posts are so witty and amusing. Please continue.

RichieLaw:Just here to say that if you say Obama's whole name including his middle one of Hussein, and it isn't satire...
you're a douche.
/that is all.
Are we still allowed to call John Hitler Stalin McCain by his full name, or do you want us to start whitewashing him, too?
(Wait, "whitewashing?" Does that make me racist?)

PATS0707:The Cuba embargo In January 2004, Obama said it was time "to end the embargo with Cuba" because it had "utterly failed in the effort to overthrow Castro." Speaking to a Cuban American audience in Miami in August 2007, he said he would not "take off the embargo" as president because it is "an important inducement for change."
And it's not like anything happened between January 2004 and August 2007, is it? Oh wait, that's right, Castro became bedridden and transferred his powers to his brother, meaning that he was no longer talking about dealing with a radical Fidel Castro but instead Raul Castro who is actually implementing change and could be reasoned with.
How dare Obama update his opinions to reflect new facts!
/will stop feeding you now

Just to piss off the McPancakes crowd, I'm going to go donate another $100 to Obama's campaign on the 1st of the month.
nyeh-nyeh-na-poo-poo!
Sure, he's going to take heat, like he has for every other strategic course correction he's made so far, but not enough heat to hurt. That's why he's going to win.. cause he knows how to win. But you know, alls us naive idiots who back him have been completely duped into thinking that he's the second coming of Jesus.
It's not the man, it's the movement. Be afraid, haters.

I came to find out how long the Obamapologist Brigade would leap into action and was not dissapointed to find that three posts was the answer!
/Democrat
//Will vote for him, but will not be having the KoolAid