It's not lost. It's in 1970 right where they left it.

It's a shame that Chicago is so maligned as a band. It seems most people only know of them from their 80s & 90s Peter Cetera ballad-filled pap. Chicago as a band "died" when their guitarist Terry Kath accidentally killed himself back in '78. If you listen to the first ten Chicago albums (especially their seminal early albums) you will hear an inventive, original sound with some serious musicianship. They took musical risks, they brought a whole new sound to rock, and they kicked ass.

Mock the later incarnations of the band all you want, but the Kath-led band was (and always will be) one of my faves.

DslainteC: Mock the later incarnations of the band all you want, but the Kath-led band was (and always will be) one of my faves.

I have tickets to see Chicago next week (with the Doobie Brothers opening) and I expect it to be like other Chicago concerts I've seen: Start strong, Peter Cetera crap in the middle, finish strong. When Chicago played with Earth, Wind, and Fire it wasn't like that. They didn't have time to play the Peter Cetera crap because they were too busy rocking out with EW&F.

pizen: When Chicago played with Earth, Wind, and Fire it wasn't like that.

I have that concert on DVD. Amazing show. I'll be going to EWF in August. I would love to see both bands together.

Chicago was as avant-garde as you could get.

Great rock, brass & rhythm fusion.

Terry Kath was an awesome guitarist (one of the most underrated; he was one of Hendrix's favorites) & the heart of the band. Sadly his contributions are largely missing from the songs in the "Greatest Hits" pantheon.

I'M A MAN (new window)

GIRL FROM BUCHANNON : MAKE ME SMILE (uncut) (new window)

POEM 58 (new window)

DslainteC: pizen: When Chicago played with Earth, Wind, and Fire it wasn't like that.

I have that concert on DVD. Amazing show. I'll be going to EWF in August. I would love to see both bands together.

I saw the Chicago/EWF show in Atlanta a few years back. One of the best concerts I've ever been to.

Rob, top five musical crimes perpetuated by Chicago in the '80s and '90s. Go. Sub-question: is it in fact unfair to criticize a formerly great artist for his latter day sins, is it better to burn out or fade away?

... and for good measure, a little BLOOD SWEAT & TEARS (new window)

pizen: DslainteC: Mock the later incarnations of the band all you want, but the Kath-led band was (and always will be) one of my faves.

I have tickets to see Chicago next week (with the Doobie Brothers opening) and I expect it to be like other Chicago concerts I've seen: Start strong, Peter Cetera crap in the middle, finish strong. When Chicago played with Earth, Wind, and Fire it wasn't like that. They didn't have time to play the Peter Cetera crap because they were too busy rocking out with EW&F.

That didn't happen when I saw them a couple of years ago either. They played a single Cetera song and that was grudgingly.

Yeah, because no one knows any Chicago songs.

It's always in the last place you look. And in this case, the last place must've been behind the seat in an '88 Trans Am.

If it was from 1973 I might be interested.

I have heard that Hendrix loved Terry Kath. Did Kath play the solo on "Twenty-five or Six to Four?"

Every time I hear that solo I cringe. It is farking horrible. If that is Kath, what the hell was Hendrix thinking? Maybe Jimi was referring to Kath's live work, or maybe Jimi was on 10,000 micrograms of blotter?

"You're the Inspiration" is still and will forever be a guaranteed karaoke hit, no matter how badly you sing.

That only increased fans' curiosity about "Stone of Sisyphus."
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Wait. Chicago actually NAMED one of their albums and it happened to be the one that got 'lost'. Coincidence? I think not!

They're going to use it in Duke Nukem Forever.


/or maybe not.

So, Chicago was a band or something?

/kidding

"Don't worry, it's not loaded"

pizen: It's not lost. It's in 1970 right where they left it.

Does anybody really know what time it is?

I really liked Chicago 30. It was a wicked album with some heavy horns.

i guess every kind of music has its fans for some reason.

AdolfOliverPanties: I have heard that Hendrix loved Terry Kath. Did Kath play the solo on "Twenty-five or Six to Four?"

Every time I hear that solo I cringe. It is farking horrible. If that is Kath, what the hell was Hendrix thinking? Maybe Jimi was referring to Kath's live work, or maybe Jimi was on 10,000 micrograms of blotter?

Guitar snob alert

Oh come on, Chicago is too easy a target. Their album titles are more exciting than their music. Go after the Doors or Eagles, for chrissake.

Dear Chicago (the band),

Please get your name from a different city. Are you familiar with Sheboygan?

Thanks,

Me.

I've always thought Boston was so much better than Chicago

So this album was an attempted return to form for them? I listened to samples on iTunes and... FAIL!

I love the old Chicago stuff. The change in their music was one of the worst 180 degree turns ever.

DslainteC: It's a shame that Chicago is so maligned as a band. It seems most people only know of them from their 80s & 90s Peter Cetera ballad-filled pap. Chicago as a band "died" when their guitarist Terry Kath accidentally killed himself back in '78. If you listen to the first ten Chicago albums (especially their seminal early albums) you will hear an inventive, original sound with some serious musicianship. They took musical risks, they brought a whole new sound to rock, and they kicked ass.

Mock the later incarnations of the band all you want, but the Kath-led band was (and always will be) one of my faves.

THIS

Back when I wore an onion on my belt, every guitar teacher on the planet made you learn "25 or Six to Four" whether you liked it or not.

/my lawn. off!

rocinante721: ... and for good measure, a little BLOOD SWEAT & TEARS (new window)

Don't forget "The Ides of March".

/I'm your vehicle, baby

Marla Singer's Laundry
AdolfOliverPanties: I have heard that Hendrix loved Terry Kath. Did Kath play the solo on "Twenty-five or Six to Four?"

Every time I hear that solo I cringe. It is farking horrible. If that is Kath, what the hell was Hendrix thinking? Maybe Jimi was referring to Kath's live work, or maybe Jimi was on 10,000 micrograms of blotter?

Guitar snob alert

Nah, I look at it this way. If I can play a solo some famous guy can play, then either he is overrated, that particular solo is way easy, or that particular solo is just bad. I am an average guitarist at best.

That solo is so bad that I don't even like playing it.

gmikes: I've always thought Boston was so much better than Chicago

Europe was bigger than both of them combined.

AdolfOliverPanties: Marla Singer's Laundry
AdolfOliverPanties: I have heard that Hendrix loved Terry Kath. Did Kath play the solo on "Twenty-five or Six to Four?"

Every time I hear that solo I cringe. It is farking horrible. If that is Kath, what the hell was Hendrix thinking? Maybe Jimi was referring to Kath's live work, or maybe Jimi was on 10,000 micrograms of blotter?

Guitar snob alert

Nah, I look at it this way. If I can play a solo some famous guy can play, then either he is overrated, that particular solo is way easy, or that particular solo is just bad. I am an average guitarist at best.

That solo is so bad that I don't even like playing it.

Just 'cause you can play it doesn't mean you can play it well.

madcatcasey: pizen: It's not lost. It's in 1970 right where they left it.

Does anybody really know what time it is?

Does anybody even care?

The lyrical/political value of some of their songs -'The Whole World is Watching' from I, some song I can't remember from II and most of III is garbage.

But man! Those first two records STILL sound great!!!

At first I thought it was a record of all the music from the TV show LOST. derf.

They actually had lots of good music in the show. Really. The season they were down in the hatch with the record player.

Les McCann and Eddie Harris always gets a thumbs up from me!

Trying to make it real compared to what?

Morton_toes: Just 'cause you can play it doesn't mean you can play it well.

Also, just 'cause you can play it doesn't mean you have the ability to create that kind of music. I knew a kid in high school who could play Neil Peart drum solos beat for beat but he couldn't come up with his own sound to save his life.

BTW, the Peter Wolf in this article is not the same as the frontman for J. Geils. Produced cheesy ballads for Starship and Heart in the 80s. That's all you need to know.

/Played "Dialogue" on the radio yesterday
//Not on the "approved" playlist

CarnySaur:
gmikes: I've always thought Boston was so much better than Chicago

Europe was bigger than both of them combined.


Asia's bigger than them all. All of them put together.

AdolfOliverPanties: I have heard that Hendrix loved Terry Kath. Did Kath play the solo on "Twenty-five or Six to Four?"

Every time I hear that solo I cringe. It is farking horrible. If that is Kath, what the hell was Hendrix thinking? Maybe Jimi was referring to Kath's live work, or maybe Jimi was on 10,000 micrograms of blotter?

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Shame on you, subby. Chicago's relevance is equal to the relevance of say...the Beatles. They were the first and best of a new style of music that endures. James Pankow is a tremendous arranger and trombone player. I play the trombone myself and I've played quite a few Chicago tunes in my day. They are tough songs that require talent. The 80's were a lost decade, but Chicago XXX is a good album. I love a good horn section, and Chicago's horns are the gold standard.

wardbond: Shame on you, subby. Chicago's relevance is equal to the relevance of say...the Beatles. They were the first and best of a new style of music that endures. James Pankow is a tremendous arranger and trombone player. I play the trombone myself and I've played quite a few Chicago tunes in my day. They are tough songs that require talent. The 80's were a lost decade, but Chicago XXX is a good album. I love a good horn section, and Chicago's horns are the gold standard.

Don't forget "Tower of Power!"

DslainteC: It's a shame that Chicago is so maligned as a band. It seems most people only know of them from their 80s & 90s Peter Cetera ballad-filled pap. Chicago as a band "died" when their guitarist Terry Kath accidentally killed himself back in '78. If you listen to the first ten Chicago albums (especially their seminal early albums) you will hear an inventive, original sound with some serious musicianship. They took musical risks, they brought a whole new sound to rock, and they kicked ass.

Mock the later incarnations of the band all you want, but the Kath-led band was (and always will be) one of my faves.

They were unbelievable then. Even the ballads kicked ass at that time. When all the girls in high school starting liking them in the mid-80s, it was clear they had hit a point of no return.

wardbond: Shame on you, subby. Chicago's relevance is equal to the relevance of say...the Beatles.

Uh, no.


I like them too. But just no.

Take that comment back subby.

I would download 25 or 6 to 4 for Rock Band the second it became available. That is all.

When a lost Chicago album from 1973 surfaces, please gimme a call.

kthxbai.

/till then I'll tide myself over with "The Grunt".

worked for these guys while they were making this record so,

getting a kick etc.

It was my understanding that Dawayne Bailey, the guitar player at the time, did much of the writing. I don't think he is still in the band.

Wardbond - This- the generals arrangement work is wildly under appreciated.

Musical relevance / irrelevance: Yes, these are the terms you'll use when you have a completely distorted view of the worth of your own opinion, love or hate an artist, and pray to god that someone.... anyone else agrees with you.

/irrelevant post