Meh, I just saw Kanye in MA, and it was an AWESOME show. The stage was really, really cool. One of the best live shows I've ever seen, upstaged only by the DJ Shadow/Quannum Tour and George Clinton

/Stupid hippies

"When 4:15 a.m. rolled around and still no West, the antsy crowd began hurling glow sticks at the stage and screaming anti-West sentiments"

Damn commies.

Norad: Damn commies.

They were just pissed that the good drugs ran out and the bad drugs were catching up to them at that point

Well played subby.

Tacoby Bellisbury: Meh, I just saw Kanye in MA, and it was an AWESOME show. The stage was really, really cool. One of the best live shows I've ever seen, upstaged only by the DJ Shadow/Quannum Tour and George Clinton

/Stupid hippies


Imagine his light show was just starting, 2.5 hours after the scheduled performance, just as the sun is rising.

Kanye Worst

I knew when they scheduled in Pearl Jam for only 2 hours that they were going to go way over that. A short Pearl Jam show is at least 2 and a half hours.

we_hates: West was originally set to kick things off at 8:15 p.m., but because he wanted to make the most of his Glow-in-the-Dark Tour's lighting show, the hip-hopster's camp asked to push back the gig to 2:45 a.m. following Pearl Jam's show.

Yup, that's what it said in the article.

Passive Aggressive Larry: I knew when they scheduled in Pearl Jam for only 2 hours that they were going to go way over that. A short Pearl Jam show is at least 2 and a half hours.

I think following Pearl Jam regardless of how long of a show they put on was a mistake.

/seen PJ many times
//best live band going

Tacoby Bellisbury: Meh, I just saw Kanye in MA, and it was an AWESOME show. The stage was really, really cool. One of the best live shows I've ever seen, upstaged only by the DJ Shadow/Quannum Tour and George Clinton

/Stupid hippies

I was there, and trust me it was a HUGE disappointment. Everything in the article is true, about there not being any explanation for the lateness or Kanye ever acknowledging the crowd. I wanted to enjoy it, I really did. But with everyone pissed off at him for waiting until goddamn 4:30 in the morning to start a light show, it was just too much. He cut his show short too, it only lasted maybe an hour, and he was obviously not even that into the performance. It really sucked because I was talking to people throughout the day who didn't really like Kanye and was trying to convince them that this was going to be an amazing show but it just fell completely flat. I don't know if Kanye should get all of the blame, but definitely somebody farked up big time. Even if the lateness wasn't his fault, he could have made up for it by performing his ass off. Instead he pissed off a bunch of people who sacrificed a lot of time to see him.

T-Luv: Yup, that's what it said in the article.

I was going to make a comment but somehow I ended up just clicking Add Comment. I hoped that if I sat here real quietly no one would notice.

Kanye is the black Axl Rose.

CtrlAltDelete -

Bravo...bravo...

KDvC should ALWAYS be present in Kanye-related threads.

Especially since he's a "produsah."


"Eyes a Produsah yo...I getz da ladies"

hmm. seems more like "bonnaroo doesn't care about egotistical talentless hacks"

I hate Kanye West. Does that make me a racist?

limboslam: I hate Kanye West. Does that make me a racist?

no, it makes you intelligent.

i also hate this pompous overblown, overrated, ego maniacal douche nozzle.

Kanye is a complete douche. Half of his touring crew quit in the first two weeks of his tour because he was always late and nobody can pull 22 hour days 5 out of every six days.

jpat: Kanye is the black Axl Rose.

That is the most astute thing I think I've ever heard someone say about Kanye.

Like Axl Rose, plenty of talent, especially when it comes to producing. However, just like Axl, he'll alienate just about everybody in the industry to the point where no one will work with him (and the few who do will be a revolving door of artists who will quickly realize what a douche he is), then he'll "retire", followed by him hyping up some huge magnus opus of an album that'll be "the best thing ever", taking years to produce. And just like Axl, his fans will wait...and wait...and wait....and then forget about him.

/saw GnR December of 06
//couldn't even fill 1/3 of the Rose Garden
///At this point, even GnR tribute bands are getting bigger crowds

Lighting: Kanye is a complete douche. Half of his touring crew quit in the first two weeks of his tour because he was always late and nobody can pull 22 hour days 5 out of every six days.

i recently worked his show as a local stagehand, and his crew were a very,very unhappy bunch. i know we did 19 hours in a fairly well designed arena with the smaller setup, so i can definitely see the consecutive 22 hour days. the show was less than average. as a longtime stagehand, i can tell you those kinds of delays are rarely the fault of stage crews, it usually lies in one of two camps. the first being equipment failure, and the other being the talent's ego. i can take a very educated guess which one this incident falls under.

/lupe fiasco schooled kanye

we_hates: T-Luv: Yup, that's what it said in the article.

I was going to make a comment but somehow I ended up just clicking Add Comment. I hoped that if I sat here real quietly no one would notice.

Don't worry, I often post in the wrong thread and normally those misposts seem to be relevant than when I try to comment on the issue at hand.

keith olberman will soon be out of work
who will he criticize when bush leaves?

MostNutsEver: I was there, and trust me it was a HUGE disappointment.

While I believe you, you don't have to be there to realize people will be mad when you are multiple hours late for a performance you had already pushed back like 6 hours.

Tacoby Bellisbury: Meh, I just saw Kanye in MA, and it was an AWESOME show. The stage was really, really cool. One of the best live shows I've ever seen, upstaged only by the DJ Shadow/Quannum Tour and George Clinton

/Stupid hippies

I was a big Kanye fan until i saw this tour live. That's all it was, a light show. If i wanted one of them i woulda seen one of those laser things.

He sucks live. He looked like he'd be sick after watching him on Music HD, but damn the glow in the dark tour? Sucked.

If you honestly thought his live show was worthwhile other than the lights, you have no taste in live music whatsoever. No crowd acknowledgment AT ALL when i was at his Glow in the Dark tour show in camden. He sucks live, period. There are much better hip hop acts to go see live and he really let me down. HUGE time.

although if i was on acid i woulda liked it because of those lights i bet...

oh yeah, and there's no defending his show. everyone who liked it is either like 15 or naive to really good LIVE music. Kanye is still great on albums and an excellent producer.. But damn he sucked live.

jpat: Kanye is the black Axl Rose.

Nah, Axl with his new band was much better than kanye from what i saw. Axl is a psychopath... Kanye let his stardom get to his head.

At least Axl was farked up before he was famous.

Tacoby Bellisbury: Meh, I just saw Kanye in MA, and it was an AWESOME show. The stage was really, really cool. One of the best live shows I've ever seen, upstaged only by the DJ Shadow/Quannum Tour and George Clinton

/Stupid hippies

George Clinton puts on fantastic shows...
What was DJ Shadow/Quannum like? Love Shadow...will listen to almost anything the Shadow puts out...

"Just trying to rid the world of all the 'fevered egos'...."-- Bill Hicks

GrizzlyAdamsRox: /seen PJ many times
//best live band going

uhhhh, yeah.

clod9: hmm. seems more like "bonnaroo doesn't care about egotistical talentless hacks"

is this about pearl jam or kanye? either way-win.

limboslam: I hate Kanye West. Does that make me a racist?

i dont think so, does he count as black?

PDXBishop: That is the most astute thing I think I've ever heard someone say about Kanye.

Like Axl Rose, plenty of talent,

are you really gonna make me type out L-O-L! dont make me do that.

ukiah: MostNutsEver: I was there, and trust me it was a HUGE disappointment.

While I believe you, you don't have to be there to realize people will be mad when you are multiple hours late for a performance you had already pushed back like 6 hours.

if he wouldve shown up an hour earlier with blowjobs and oral for everyone in attendance, they still wouldve hated it. because, you know-hes a talentless tard.

echoshizzle: I was a big Kanye fan until i saw this tour live.

you need to get involved in the guitar and bass threads, youll be one of the most informed musical minds of the whole group.

echoshizzle: Nah, Axl with his new band was much better than kanye from what i saw.

ron thal could even make kanye an almost acceptable...sorry. even that wouldnt give him any musical credibility. kinda the same with axl but its a paycheck.

/sorry, i like nontard hiphop

Bonnaro is no longer a hippiefest.

There are better shows out there, and the appeal of 4 days in a Tenn. field with drunken frat boys on Acid with Kanye and Metallica hedalining just sounds like a new level of hell even Hunter S. Thompson couldn't imagine.

mahavishnunj: sorry, i like nontard hiphop

sorry, no such thing

Don't follow Pearl Jam.....bad idea Kanye.

homerdrew415: What was DJ Shadow/Quannum like? Love Shadow...will listen to almost anything the Shadow puts out...

He had a video turntable and was scratching video clips. It was cool.

While I'm all for showmanship, if your performance relies on a giant light show and glow in the dark spaceship maybe, just maybe, you're compensating for deficiencies in the material being performed.

kingflower: Don't follow Pearl Jam.....bad idea Kanye.

Yeah, no matter what some people post they are a great live act and would almost shut down every other band today.

To give him credit, he's trying to emulate the Daft Punk live show. I doubt that will happen, but good luck with it.

downtownkid: While I'm all for showmanship, if your performance relies on a giant light show and glow in the dark spaceship maybe, just maybe, you're compensating for deficiencies in the material being performed.

THIS

This is exactly what the hippies predicted. Which is why they're all skipping Bonnaroo and going to Rothbury.

To anyone who went to Bonnaroo, how was the crowd? noticbly more annoying?

Bow in the presence of greatness,
'cause right now thou has forsaken us,
You should be honored by my lateness,
that I would even show up to this fake shiat.

steamingpile: kingflower: Don't follow Pearl Jam.....bad idea Kanye.

Yeah, no matter what some people post they are a great live act and would almost shut down every other band today.

Even if you hate PJ, you have to acknowledge that:

A) they put on a great show (2 1/2 to 3 hr shows are the norm),
B) they maintain a large and loyal/cultlike fanbase,
C) they run one of the best fan clubs on the planet

I'm just surprised that they are allowed to let the festival go on until whenever they want. Pretty amazing the city/county is ok with that.

Gotta be out of Coachella and in bed by like midnight.

Is the sun really still so bright in Tennessee that an 8:15 start time wouldn't have worked for his Glow-in-the-Dark laser light show?

Or was the "we want it darker out" a euphemism for "Kanye's ego is so big, he just has to close the show"?

To those of you saying Kanye let success go to his head, I can assure you that before he was ever really famous he was already a walking douchenozzle (helped with one of his concerts back before he got "huge"). Back when he got paid the same amount as the String Cheese Incident. :D

Gordie_Howe_Hat_Trick: Is the sun really still so bright in Tennessee that an 8:15 start time wouldn't have worked for his Glow-in-the-Dark laser light show?

Or was the "we want it darker out" a euphemism for "Kanye's ego is so big, he just has to close the show"?

There ya go. He probably just didn't want to bother with telling the sun to obey him.

kingflower: steamingpile: kingflower: Don't follow Pearl Jam.....bad idea Kanye.

Yeah, no matter what some people post they are a great live act and would almost shut down every other band today.

Even if you hate PJ, you have to acknowledge that:

A) they put on a great show (2 1/2 to 3 hr shows are the norm),
B) they maintain a large and loyal/cultlike fanbase,
C) they run one of the best fan clubs on the planet

Why would someone who hates a band ever acknowledge A or C?

Gordie_Howe_Hat_Trick: Is the sun really still so bright in Tennessee that an 8:15 start time wouldn't have worked for his Glow-in-the-Dark laser light show?

Or was the "we want it darker out" a euphemism for "Kanye's ego is so big, he just has to close the show"?

It actually was still somewhat bright out by that time, so it did make some sense. But I'm sure Kanye's ego played into that too.

For those of you talking about George Clinton here:

That's one of the worst live performances I've ever seen. His back up singers were bored, wasted and actually smoking cigarettes on stage. George was so wasted he was forgetting the lyrics and almost fell down many times. The whole thing was such a mess I walked out early, which I'd never done before.
I wouldn't go see that crack head again if you gave me a ticket.
It was sad.

Somebody needed to help him find the funk.

/still loves his recordings

jpat: Kanye is the black Axl Rose.

In bloated ego, only. A long time ago, Axl helped put out one hell of a rock record. He can also actually sing.
/enjoyed the bloated epics of UYI2

Former Lee Warmer: Why would someone who hates a band ever acknowledge A or C?

I never cared for santanna but saw him at a festival around '95 or '96 and thought he put on a farking great show so I ended up buying a couple of his CDs.

This of course was before his sell out period of which Im not a huge fan.

Pearl Jam puts on a good show and if they came to a better venue than the ghetto lakewood here in atlanta I may go see them again.

Tacoby Bellisbury: homerdrew415: What was DJ Shadow/Quannum like? Love Shadow...will listen to almost anything the Shadow puts out...

He had a video turntable and was scratching video clips. It was cool.

I saw Wilco do this on the Ghost is Born Tour

Gordie_Howe_Hat_Trick: Is the sun really still so bright in Tennessee that an 8:15 start time wouldn't have worked for his Glow-in-the-Dark laser light show?

Or was the "we want it darker out" a euphemism for "Kanye's ego is so big, he just has to close the show"?

Who knows maybe "we want it darker out" is Bonnaroo's way of saying they were waiting for black people and therefore care about them.

Oh and I've never seen a bad P-Funk show including one where Ed Bradley got up on stage and danced for a song or two. It was right before he died (wonder if he smoked crack w/ George).

Link (new window)

This says everything that needs to be said about kanye. not a RR.

/In other news, black people don't like sleeping in the mud