The differnce between doing 3 to 5, and walking around with cool street cred is no farkin' choice at all

no offense, but if removing it doesn't endanger the kids life, don't the police have probable cause to go to a judge and force the kid to go under the knife?
Or have I been watching too much Law & Order?

Either way, this kid is retarded.

I'm really have trouble making it through the article. I mean the dude's last name is Bush and he is a Texan.

FTA -'Police said Bush tried to shoot the manager, a witness to the robbery, but the man fired back, lodging a slug in the fatty tissue of Bush's forehead.'

The douchenozzle has a fat forehead.

He probably is innocent...I mean walking around w/ a slug in your forehead is a pretty normal thing to do.

SilentStrider:

You have the right general idea. For example, if the police want a sample of your DNA, they can request a warrant for it if they can show (1) probable cause, and (2) that the DNA sample will assist them in solving the crime.

I think the additional civil rights factor here is the right of the accused to decide on what medical treatment is best for him. I am sure the defense can get an expert to at least say that while removing the bullet is probably the best course of action, there is a risk, albeit slight, that something could go wrong with the operation. For example, any time you have general anesthesia, there is some risk to the patient. So from that standpoint, it is a civil rights issue.

I'm one of the first ones to start raising Cain over people being sent to jail without proving their guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, but do they really need to match the actual bullet when they can show he has it in his head?

I told u I was harcore!

Well, clearly the bullet did not hit a vital organ.

Churchill:

The cannot match the bullet while it is in his head.

FTFA "exploited a court error."

yeah, he waived his trial and settled when they told him he was looking at life.

But when he found out the maximum was twenty, that changed.

Did he immediately give John Woo a call?

We as a society should be VERY RELUCTANT to force medical treatment on unwilling adults.

Even when these unwilling adults are class A losers, as this guy sure appears to be.

Would it be so bad for him to get an MRI just to make REALLY sure we know where the bullet is?

Farked_in_the_NW: Would it be so bad for him to get an MRI just to make REALLY sure we know where the bullet is?

I saw what you did there, but then suddenly became blind and paralyzed below the neck.

Riche: We as a society should be VERY RELUCTANT to force medical treatment on unwilling adults.

Even when these unwilling adults are class A losers, as this guy sure appears to be.

It would be wrong to make him have surgery...Of course, an MRI scan would not be invasive, so technically...

Farked_in_the_NW: Would it be so bad for him to get an MRI just to make REALLY sure we know where the bullet is?

Damn! Great minds and all that...

Why do these courts hate America?

No brain damage. I'm not surprised.

Could the prosecuting attorney present the kid's refusal to have the bullet removed as suspicious at the very least? I know it's not "evidence" exactly, but come on.

Wasn't this in a Law and Order episode?

I've heard this joke before. Wasn't all that funny the first time.

YA GOT A BULLET IN YA HEAD!

/RATM freak.

nekom: I told u I was harcore!

God dammit, you beat me.

stevioso: Could the prosecuting attorney present the kid's refusal to have the bullet removed as suspicious at the very least? I know it's not "evidence" exactly, but come on.

Yeah, but the burden is on him to prove the kid did it beyond reasonable doubt, not beyond reasonable suspicion.

And the prosecutor only gets one shot if you're found not guilty, while you get appeals.

*golf clap* ACEllis

This was in an episode of Boston Legal a couple years ago.

I don't think forcing a person to have surgery just so the cops can prove that he may have had a hand in a crime is right. What if the kid died during surgery and the bullet didn't match?

just put it the rest of the way in, problem solved.

it will happen to him sooner or later anyway.

Boston Legal episode, except the bullet is in his chest not his head.

baka-san: it will happen to him sooner or later anyway.

Sh'yeah, a sharp copper/lead object rattling around in your melon is probably going to cause you serious problems at some point.

SilentStrider: no offense, but if removing it doesn't endanger the kids life, don't the police have probable cause to go to a judge and force the kid to go under the knife?
Or have I been watching too much Law & Order?

Either way, this kid is retarded.

Any surgery has a nonzero chance of killing you, and therefore requires patient permission unless the chance of you dying without the surgery is much greater. This includes even relatively routine things like laproscopy, vasectomies, etc. If it involves cutting, it requires patient permission.

this happened in 2006. if i was him and i lived in texas i'd have gone to mexico and had it removed asap. bye bye evidence.

Brezhnev's life was saved during 3 separate assassination attempts when it was demonstrated that his unibrow was in fact extremely bullet-resistant, the equivalent of a modern Level II Threat.

How much fat can a person have in their head that it stops bullets? Oh right, Texas.

/VE?
//A vote for me is a vote for head fat.

Suicidal Writer: I'm really have trouble making it through the article. I mean the dude's last name is Bush and he is a Texan.

Pardon!

The .45 vs 9mm debate continues.

BTW the kid was shot with a 9mm.

CSI did it.

If he didn't want a bullet in the head, he shouldn't have been wearing this hat:

Bush claimed he was accidentally shot by a friend.

Cheney you son of a biatch!

stevioso: Could the prosecuting attorney present the kid's refusal to have the bullet removed as suspicious at the very least? I know it's not "evidence" exactly, but come on.

Fifth constitutional amendment, prohibiting coerced self-incrimination. People who consider usage of the 5th amendment as admission of guilt have been said to reduce it to a "hollow mockery" (a la Senator McCarthy).

Riche: We as a society should be VERY RELUCTANT to force medical treatment on unwilling adults.
Kid was 17 at the time of the alleged crime.
Just sayin'

I don't know much about guns and bullet calibers but uh....how is it possible to get shot in the forehead and survive?

f-bomber: Bush claimed he was accidentally shot by a friend.

Cheney you son of a biatch!

I laughed

Hero.

Didn't we already discuss this case on Fark. Is there someone with better search skills than I who can find the previous discussion and save us from typing the same privacy arguments all over again?

Hardly notices ...

What's the point in living if you can't feel alive?

Can't you just get it out by pouring salt on it?