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So help me God.

Welcome home!!!

But women are not allowed in combat.

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Dialectic: But women are not allowed in combat.

Apparently the insugents were unaware of that. Thank you Monica, you've got the right stuff.

I was in Lake Jackson yesterday and wondered what all the commotion was about. I can't believe that she went though all of that and is only 20 years old. My sister is the same age and I don't think she would be able to deal with that.

Dialectic
But women are not allowed in combat.


Nah, they just can't have guns or they'll whip the boys' butts.
Ever meet a girl with more than one brother? I'd rather tangle with K1 champ on angel dust!
Go Monica!

Unless you've been to an a unit that's built to engage whoever the hell's shooting at you, you can't state "women belong in combat." No they do not. A whole lot of men cannot deal maturely with situations with women around. It's disgusting but it's true. I am in an armor unit and the amount of sexual innuendos is patently offensive.

The "no place for women" is not a sign of sexism - it's more for their protection (just like in the real world, real creeps also exist in the military).

Yes, there are women who can handle combat but they are also the exception and not the rule.

Ideologically, I am to the left of Kucinich, if anyone was wondering.

Dialectic: But women are not allowed in combat.

Ah, thanks. I was trying to figure out how this story could be on the Politics tab, was failing horribly....

uptonogood: A whole lot of men cannot deal maturely with situations with women around. It's disgusting but it's true.

Thats where the military needs to grind thier immature asses into the ground until they learn to behave around thier female counterparts. I don't believe in punishing/discriminating against one person due to the asinine/juvenile behavior of another. I believe in punishing/disciplining the person acting like an immature ass.

matt2891: uptonogood: A whole lot of men cannot deal maturely with situations with women around. It's disgusting but it's true.

Thats where the military needs to grind thier immature asses into the ground until they learn to behave around thier female counterparts. I don't believe in punishing/discriminating against one person due to the asinine/juvenile behavior of another. I believe in punishing/disciplining the person acting like an immature ass.

In an ideal world, yes. But are you seriously going to punish an entire battalion to accommodate one person? That would render an entire arms battalion combat ineffective. Are you willing to revamp entire divisions from the ground up to accommodate a few women who want to take up arms? In a magical fairy tale world, yes, but in reality, it is impossible. You have to start from the top down and work downward and it is not a reality that we are currently working in.

I would love to see women in combat arms units as more than support but (there's always but), these units are out sometimes for days on end, and when you're with several men who have not had contact with women for months, that becomes dangerous. I'm sorry.

why is this under politics?

Brain_Damage: My sister is the same age and I don't think she I would be able to deal with that.

nice work, lady.

uptonogood: matt2891: uptonogood: A whole lot of men cannot deal maturely with situations with women around. It's disgusting but it's true.

Thats where the military needs to grind thier immature asses into the ground until they learn to behave around thier female counterparts. I don't believe in punishing/discriminating against one person due to the asinine/juvenile behavior of another. I believe in punishing/disciplining the person acting like an immature ass.

In an ideal world, yes. But are you seriously going to punish an entire battalion to accommodate one person? That would render an entire arms battalion combat ineffective. Are you willing to revamp entire divisions from the ground up to accommodate a few women who want to take up arms? In a magical fairy tale world, yes, but in reality, it is impossible. You have to start from the top down and work downward and it is not a reality that we are currently working in.

I would love to see women in combat arms units as more than support but (there's always but), these units are out sometimes for days on end, and when you're with several men who have not had contact with women for months, that becomes dangerous. I'm sorry.

Maybe you should show the entire military examples like Monica's.

"Look, if you want to act like asses, then heroes like her won't be assigned to your unit. If you want to die a horrible death, then so be it."

I see your point, to a degree uptonogood. But from my understanding of the military (father was a drill sargent, SFC) part of a soldiers training is discipline. Soldiers are trained to be disciplined in all other matters, so why should this one instance be different? I'd also argue that if these guys can't show some restraint and control of thier behavior with regards to women, then even if you removed women from the equation, they'd be a bunch of cutups over something else.

That was low class.

People arguing that women don't belong in combat have obviously not served with women in a combat zone.

Monica could be my medic any day of the week.

Good on ya, girl. Even if you had to do it with the 82nd instead of the 101st.

//Air Assault!
///Big Red One on my right shoulder, but grew up in the 327.

matt2891: I see your point, to a degree uptonogood. But from my understanding of the military (father was a drill sargent, SFC) part of a soldiers training is discipline. Soldiers are trained to be disciplined in all other matters, so why should this one instance be different? I'd also argue that if these guys can't show some restraint and control of thier behavior with regards to women, then even if you removed women from the equation, they'd be a bunch of cutups over something else.

i would advise you to look up the definition of echo chamber.

You have a bunch of guys who are 18 or 19, straight out of high school or in some cases, who just finished their GED. Many get out after four years but many also stay in. So basically kids. I don't know if anyone else remembers their late teen years but people of that age are still immature children. Sure you can send them to a war zone but they are still kids. They'll develop in some ways but there are aspects of human nature that demand time over experience.

Then the ones that stay in, when you're in a male dominated culture for years at a time when your co-workers are primarily men, your view of the world will be skewed. These maxims apply mostly to line-unit soldiers, of course, since many of the support staff encompasses many many women. (The male/female designators irk me).

These are people who are told that killing the bad guys is okay and that you should be proud to have done so in the name of the country without deeper understandings of the implications of their actions or for whom these actions are being carried out for.

In what magical world do you think these people live in when some abstract concept of being honorable and outstanding members of society is what you're expecting of them?

As individuals, we are fine, but in groups of people, we can be chauvinistic and some of these people are downright dangerous. That is the reality of it, not some idealistic bullshiat pumped into people via PR campaigns and/or indoctrinations.

doglover: Ever meet a girl with more than one brother? I'd rather tangle with K1 champ on angel dust!

I once worked with a girl who had twelve older brothers. She was probably the toughest person (mentally and physically) that I've ever met.

Seabon: why is this under politics?


Was wondering the same thing. Beats the hell out of me...

glad to hear she came home safely.

Stop-loss in 3...2...1

Good Medics are truly saints put on this Earth by some God somewhere. Hold your head head high, sunshine. There are a few million people who hold you in the highest of respects.

Gonz: Big Red One on my right shoulder

If you're gonna have one, it may as well be a big red one.
Thanks for your service, paratrooper.

Seabon: why is this under politics?

Because that's what this war is all about.

That said, welcome home and congratulations, Monica.

uptonogood: m

i would advise you to look up the definition of echo chamber.

You have a bunch of guys who are 18 or 19, straight out of high school or in some cases, who just finished their GED. Many get out after four years but many also stay in. So basically kids. I don't know if anyone else remembers their late teen years but people of that age are still immature children. Sure you can send them to a war zone but they are still kids. They'll develop in some ways but there are aspects of human nature that demand time over experience.

Then the ones that stay in, when you're in a male dominated culture for years at a time when your co-workers are primarily men, your view of the world will be skewed. These maxims apply mostly to line-unit soldiers, of course, since many of the support staff encompasses many many women. (The male/female designators irk me).

These are people who are told that killing the bad guys is okay and that you should be proud to have done so in the name of the country without deeper understandings of the implications of their actions or for whom these actions are being carried out for.

In what magical world do you think these people live in when some abstract concept of being honorable and outstanding members of society is what you're expecting of them?

As individuals, we are fine, but in groups of people, we can be chauvinistic and some of these people are downright dangerous. That is the reality of it, not some idealistic bullshiat pumped into people via PR campaigns and/or indoctrinations.

We train them to look after each other, to listen to their superiors, and to face combat with a cool head. I don't know many 18-19 year old "kids" who fit that example. The military teaches them to act like ADULTS. We can also teach them to work alongside female service members (and most military men I know have nothing but positive things to say about the females they serve with).

The argument you're using was also used to keep women out of the police force, out of management positions, and out of the workforce in general.

Gonz: People arguing that women don't belong in combat have obviously not served with women in a combat zone.

Monica could be my medic any day of the week.

Good on ya, girl. Even if you had to do it with the 82nd instead of the 101st.

//Air Assault!
///grew up in the 327.

This.

damn Chairborne.

/weeeee have a rendezvouuuus with deeeeestiiiinyyyyyy
//our strength and courage strike the spark that will always make men freeeeee
///OIF I

archeochick:
We train them to look after each other, to listen to their superiors, and to face combat with a cool head. I don't know many 18-19 year old "kids" who fit that example. The military teaches them to act like ADULTS. We can also teach them to work alongside female service members (and most military men I know have nothing but positive things to say about the females they serve with).

The argument you're using was also used to keep women out of the police force, out of management positions, and out of the workforce in general.

Is there an equivalent profession outside of war where the workplace is even its equal in terms of extremes?

I am in an all men's armor unit. A lot of infantry and tanker types. Right now outside, I see a wall. A not very high wall, but a wall nonetheless. On the other side of that wall is Baghdad. There are women on this base. A great many of them, actually. One of the constants in military life is training against sexual harassment. Continuously. Why? Because sexual harassment is a major problem. There are stories of women who will not go to the bathrooms at night in fear of rape. This is not an isolated incident. Women are in the military and they serve as outstanding individuals. That there is no doubt.

One soldier had this example for an audience when he once spoke to a crowd of people. A woman asked why women shouldn't be in the combat zone. He pointed to a member of the audience to drop to the ground. He then asked her to pick up said person. Of course the guy on the ground was twice her size. He then pointed to a guy and asked him to pick up the man on the ground. He did this with a little effort but picked him up and walked. She stood and stared at him. That is the reality of the battlefield. That is the reality of this culture.

Anybody can follow an order, but just because you're in the military does not make you mature to be considered an adult. Kids who are still growing into adulthood make up a major component of the military. I am sorry if this is hard for anyone to accept. We all grow up eventually, but not everyone becomes an adult over night by some magic age. This is why people get promotions - when they learn to grow up. And for some, it takes longer than others, but when they do earn that promotion, you can be sure that most of them deserve it in full.

This is not an ordinary job. I am sorry if the standards of military life should somehow not reflect the standards outside of its culture.

good job, soldier.
welcome home.

uptonogood: archeochick: One soldier had this example for an audience when he once spoke to a crowd of people. A woman asked why women shouldn't be in the combat zone. He pointed to a member of the audience to drop to the ground. He then asked her to pick up said person. Of course the guy on the ground was twice her size. He then pointed to a guy and asked him to pick up the man on the ground. He did this with a little effort but picked him up and walked. She stood and stared at him. That is the reality of the battlefield. That is the reality of this culture.

Something tells me that the women who'd volunteer for combat units would meet appropriate fitness & mental requirements, and could easily be weeded out if they didn't.

Please contact the subject of this article & let her know that the reality of battlefield extremes prevents her from doing the job that she did in order to receive the farking Silver Star.

Turn to the nearest female & apologize for being part of the problem.

uptonogood brings up alot of valid concerns with women in military

but i think such problems are better addressed by having more women in the military, not less

illustri: uptonogood brings up alot of valid concerns with women in military

but i think such problems are better addressed by having more women in the military, not less

Works for me. Maybe then we'll be allowed to wear the pants with our dress greens/blues more often than that damn skirt. I wear the same damn uniform as all the men around me, so why do I have to wear freakin' pantyhose, pumps, and a skirt for formal occassions? Besides, I like having pockets instead of messing around with a purse...

And mad props to the medic. I feel like I'm pretty tough for a chick, but she makes me look like a pansy-ass. You go, girl! :D

uptonogood:

To the left of Kucinich? You're a goddamned liar. You're a craven shiathead like all the rest of the homophobic, misogynistic jerks that are holding our military's attitudes in the 19th century.

The way this woman -- a genuine combat hero and a model for all soldiers, male or female -- was treated was shameful, and this "hero's welcome" business is nothing more than a consolation prize for a woman who got screwed by the military bureacracy.

/puts Monica Brown on the list of women like Jessica Lynch and Faye Turney who are entitled to say "Say that to my face, you motherfarking sexist pig"

Cheers to her!

uptonogood:

In an ideal world, yes. But are you seriously going to punish an entire battalion to accommodate one person? That would render an entire arms battalion combat ineffective. Are you willing to revamp entire divisions from the ground up to accommodate a few women who want to take up arms? In a magical fairy tale world, yes, but in reality, it is impossible. You have to start from the top down and work downward and it is not a reality that we are currently working in.

Congratulations on making the exact same arguments that were made against allowing black soldiers. "it will destroy unit cohesion!" "The white soldiers won't respect them!" "We should wait until we have full equality outside the military!" "you'd have to revamp entire divisions from the ground up to accommodate a few women blacks who want to take up arms!".

Well guess what? We didn't wait. The racist soldiers got over it. The sexist ones will too.

uptonogood: archeochick: We train them to look after each other, to listen to their superiors, and to face combat with a cool head. I don't know many 18-19 year old "kids" who fit that example. The military teaches them to act like ADULTS. We can also teach them to work alongside female service members (and most military men I know have nothing but positive things to say about the females they serve with).

The argument you're using was also used to keep women out of the police force, out of management positions, and out of the workforce in general.

Is there an equivalent profession outside of war where the workplace is even its equal in terms of extremes?

I am in an all men's armor unit. A lot of infantry and tanker types. Right now outside, I see a wall. A not very high wall, but a wall nonetheless. On the other side of that wall is Baghdad. There are women on this base. A great many of them, actually. One of the constants in military life is training against sexual harassment. Continuously. Why? Because sexual harassment is a major problem. There are stories of women who will not go to the bathrooms at night in fear of rape. This is not an isolated incident. Women are in the military and they serve as outstanding individuals. That there is no doubt.

One soldier had this example for an audience when he once spoke to a crowd of people. A woman asked why women shouldn't be in the combat zone. He pointed to a member of the audience to drop to the ground. He then asked her to pick up said person. Of course the guy on the ground was twice her size. He then pointed to a guy and asked him to pick up the man on the ground. He did this with a little effort but picked him up and walked. She stood and stared at him. That is the reality of the battlefield. That is the reality of this culture.

Anybody can follow an order, but just because you're in the military does not make you mature to be considered an adult. Kids who are still growing into adulthood make up a major component of the military. I am sorry if this is hard for anyone to accept. We all grow up eventually, but not everyone becomes an adult over night by some magic age. This is why people get promotions - when they learn to grow up. And for some, it takes longer than others, but when they do earn that promotion, you can be sure that most of them deserve it in full.

This is not an ordinary job. I am sorry if the standards of military life should somehow not reflect the standards outside of its culture.

Aaaaahahahahahahaha.

Ok, ok, I'll try to treat this as something real, though your handle is definitely making me think you might have just come in here to toil for trouble, and toss in my two cents.

You know who else has to worry about being raped? Men. Oooh nooo! I brought it up! Men get raped too! And it has happened in the military. It's at a lower rate then woman, but it's not that much lower actually (ugh, and I just had Sexual Harassment training, they crammed all the numbers about it down my throat.)

And that story of the guy making the girl pick some dude up. That's a pile of malarkey if I've ever seen it. If she was in the military and couldn't do it, I could see how that would validate his point. How about I pull out a story. I was at a base stateside, and we were at a club. There was this chick that was helping me move around speakers and hooking up the wiring for the DJ when people were showing up. We were in our civvies, and these guys wearing their BDUs, all pumped because they were in the Army, walk up and start hitting on her, because she was pretty hot. Well, of course, they start doing a push up contest to show off to her. She just laughs at them, gets down and kicks their asses, doing ONE arm push ups to their normal ones! And it's not like she's the only female I've meet while in the service who could command respect, physically.

There is always going to be some sort of bullshiat people pull because of stereotypes. I know of a guy who passed the Ranger course TWICE, but they still wouldn't let him become a Ranger, because he was 5' 2". That was bullshiat. And I also know of a female who went through my school because she was kicked out of EOD, because she was told no "GIRL" has ever passed this course, and none will.

There are specialized units that will not except women now, or short people, or people they think might, possibly, in some strange way, pull everything down to failure just with their mere presence. Nothing is going to change, unless we're going to accept women on the front lines. Then we can work from their, since they obviously have to prove themselves again, and again, and again, just to be accepted on the most basic level.

Never had any problem with women on my deployment that I didn't have with any man.

Damn it, no one is going to read that. Must...control...rants...

Also, I messed up the italicizing.

Uh oh, their, there, they're failure detected in my rant.

matt2891: uptonogood: A whole lot of men cannot deal maturely with situations with women around. It's disgusting but it's true.

Thats where the military needs to grind thier immature asses into the ground until they learn to behave around thier female counterparts. I don't believe in punishing/discriminating against one person due to the asinine/juvenile behavior of another. I believe in punishing/disciplining the person acting like an immature ass.

I can't speak for the army, but there is an incredible amount of sexual tension on navy ships that have women aboard, and it has a definite negative impact on the morale of the crew. There are enough who sleep around to give all of them a bad name and cause problems within the crew. I'm not saying all women in the military sleep around, but enough of them do to give the rest of them a bad name.

What happens when you put men and women together is a fact of life that cannot be changed with any amount of training or punishment. You can deal with sexual harassment and off color jokes, but you cannot change the sexual tension that exists in a situation like that.

/glad I'm a submarine guy and don't have to deal with that
//for the time being anyways
///feel bad for the swo's

Airborne!

And its a maroon beret, not burgundy. And its earned, not issued.

It kind of irked me when the Army started issuing berets to all soldiers. They have always meant something now they are no different than c-caps.

Benjamin the Rogue Damn it, no one is going to read that. Must...control...rants...

Also, I messed up the italicizing.


read and agreed with. spot on mate

is she hot?

/dnrtfa

^^^ what he said

It's okay, Dick Durban still hates her.

wait wait wait..... i thought that all of the women that join the military had no interest in men to begin with...... oh i forgot men are attracted ugly chicks whether or not they're lesbians... got it