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(Israeli Insider) Interesting Obama's half-brother says Obama will be a good president for the Jewish people, despite his Muslim background. Bonus: Photo of the two in 1985, dressed in Muslim attire   (web.israelinsider.com) divider line 121
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Dinki [TotalFark] 2008-06-14 11:34:24 PM  
submitter: Muslim attire

Subby = Epic FAIL

 
bmr68 [TotalFark] 2008-06-14 11:45:24 PM  
Obama is amcking his face somewhere.

FTA:
Melanie Phillips is the most recent commentator to draw attention to the massive body of evidence that leaves no doubt that Barak Hussein Obama was born a Muslim (Islam is patrilineal) and raised a Muslim (so registered in school, acknowledging attending Islamic classes, reported accompanying his step-father to the mosque, and able to recite the Koran in the original Arabic).


It's sad, but this may be the only information a lot of Obama fence sitters need to abandon him.

 
RagingLeonard [TotalFark] 2008-06-14 11:59:09 PM  
John McCain wears a suit and tie.
Stalin wore a suit and tie.

Therefore John McCain is an evil dictator who will brutally murder 20 million of his own people.

 
Arthur Jumbles [TotalFark] 2008-06-14 11:59:55 PM  
Oh please..... I have Catholic parents, went to a Catholic school and attended a Catholic church but I am not Catholic and have never been Catholic for the simple reason that I have never believed. Just because Islam says the son of a Muslim is a Muslim and his parents registered him in a school as one does not make him a Muslim.

 
Psychotropic 2008-06-15 12:02:34 AM  
What does "born a Muslim" mean?
Both his parents were atheists.
(Islam is patrilineal) By the reasoning of this Obama smear campaign tactic, Obama was born an atheist not a Muslim.
Fortunately, being an American he is free worship any religion he chooses and he has chosen Christianity.
There is no such thing as Sharia Law in the USA. No one is required to worship the god of their father, grandfather, or anyone else.

My father was a Protestant.
He made me attend church with him a few times when I was a child. This did not make me a Protestant.

I attended Vacation Bible School as a child. I went because we played games after the Jesus classes were done. It still didn't make me a Protestant.

 
bmr68 [TotalFark] 2008-06-15 12:05:16 AM  
Arthur Jumbles
Oh please..... I have Catholic parents, went to a Catholic school and attended a Catholic church but I am not Catholic and have never been Catholic for the simple reason that I have never believed. Just because Islam says the son of a Muslim is a Muslim and his parents registered him in a school as one does not make him a Muslim.

You were raised a Catholic and it still would be correct to label you a "Catholic".

 
FredaDeStilleto [TotalFark] 2008-06-15 12:28:12 AM  
I don't care what religion he practices or has practiced or is believed to have practiced.

Unfortunately, many knuckle-draggers equate any association with the Islamic religion as being a terrorist.

 
Etchy333 [TotalFark] 2008-06-15 01:03:38 AM  
Reuven Koret, Aaron Klein and Daniel Pipes have previously pointed to the attempts by Obama and his campaign to conceal the candidate's Muslim background. The well documented evidence draws upon the on-the-ground interviews by researchers in Indonesia and Kenya, published quotations of Obama's childhood friends and his school records, as well as the candidate's own autobiography.

So he tried to hide his Muslim heritage by putting it in his autobiography? That sneaky Obama!

Also, sub-xenophobe, if you go to Kenya, you'll see lots of people wearing that "Muslim attire." I suggest calling anyone who cites Obama's "Muslim heritage" as a disqualification factor a straight up bigot. Who's with me?

 
dslfobia [TotalFark] 2008-06-15 01:03:54 AM  
אינדימדיה ישראל: בית

 
Arthur Jumbles [TotalFark] 2008-06-15 01:05:35 AM  
bmr68: Arthur Jumbles
Oh please..... I have Catholic parents, went to a Catholic school and attended a Catholic church but I am not Catholic and have never been Catholic for the simple reason that I have never believed. Just because Islam says the son of a Muslim is a Muslim and his parents registered him in a school as one does not make him a Muslim.

You were raised a Catholic and it still would be correct to label you a "Catholic".


Never was.

 
bmr68 [TotalFark] 2008-06-15 01:10:17 AM  
Arthur Jumbles
Oh please..... I have Catholic parents, went to a Catholic school and attended a Catholic church but I am not Catholic and have never been Catholic for the simple reason that I have never believed. Just because Islam says the son of a Muslim is a Muslim and his parents registered him in a school as one does not make him a Muslim.

You were raised a Catholic and it still would be correct to label you a "Catholic".

Never was.


You can say 'never was' until your blue in the face, but the fact remains you were raised a Catholic by your parents.

 
Drathus [TotalFark] 2008-06-15 01:16:36 AM  
bmr68: You were raised a Catholic and it still would be correct to label you a "Catholic".

Normally I avoid these types of discussions, but this comment is so completely full of fail.

You cannot call something A when it is no longer something A.

If someone is raised as a "Catholic" but is not a practicing "Catholic" it would be completely incorrect to call them one.

It would be about as accurate as:

You used to need a diaper, therefore you shiat your pants.

/QED

 
Snowflake Tubbybottom 2008-06-15 01:18:25 AM  
Obama: This is not the half-brother I once knew.

 
Arthur Jumbles [TotalFark] 2008-06-15 01:26:18 AM  
bmr68: Arthur Jumbles
Oh please..... I have Catholic parents, went to a Catholic school and attended a Catholic church but I am not Catholic and have never been Catholic for the simple reason that I have never believed. Just because Islam says the son of a Muslim is a Muslim and his parents registered him in a school as one does not make him a Muslim.

You were raised a Catholic and it still would be correct to label you a "Catholic".

Never was.

You can say 'never was' until your blue in the face, but the fact remains you were raised a Catholic by your parents.


But I never was a Catholic, I've been an atheist for as long as I can remember and a bane to every Sunday school teacher I've had. People accept a religion or they don't and that's really all there is to it.

 
CravenMorehead 2008-06-15 01:41:08 AM  
I was born and raised a Catholic but was able to come to my senses in my teens and am now an atheist.

What Obama was "born as" or "raised as" has no bearing on his religious beliefs today. And in a better world it wouldn't matter if it did.

 
robsul82 [TotalFark] 2008-06-15 01:50:06 AM  
Arthur Jumbles: bmr68: Arthur Jumbles
Oh please..... I have Catholic parents, went to a Catholic school and attended a Catholic church but I am not Catholic and have never been Catholic for the simple reason that I have never believed. Just because Islam says the son of a Muslim is a Muslim and his parents registered him in a school as one does not make him a Muslim.

You were raised a Catholic and it still would be correct to label you a "Catholic".

Never was.

You can say 'never was' until your blue in the face, but the fact remains you were raised a Catholic by your parents.

But I never was a Catholic, I've been an atheist for as long as I can remember and a bane to every Sunday school teacher I've had. People accept a religion or they don't and that's really all there is to it.


HE KNOWS BETTER THAN YOU WHAT YOU ARE!

 
Broadcastdave [TotalFark] 2008-06-15 02:04:34 AM  
I heard an interesting argument that because Obama is an apostate the terrorists would be more likely to attack the USA.

 
Snowflake Tubbybottom 2008-06-15 02:04:38 AM  
CravenMorehead: I was born and raised a Catholic but was able to come to my senses in my teens and am now an atheist.

What Obama was "born as" or "raised as" has no bearing on his religious beliefs today. And in a better world it wouldn't matter if it did.


It would seem thought that your being raised Catholic did in fact have an effect on your religious beliefs of today in that you have rejected the teachings of Cathol.

So why not too believe that Obama has equally rejected the teachings of Mooslim?

/Sorry Eddie.. I tried to do you justice

 
sloppy shoes 2008-06-15 02:12:24 AM  
How about this, in fairness to your children you are not allowed teach them anything about religion, and they must discover it and investigate it on their own?

OH wait, that would be intelligent and would prevent indoctrination of helpful children.

OH, bmr68, I used to be a Catholic alter boy; yet, I'm no catholic and wasn't for a long time that I was an alter boy. Amazingly, it is incredibly hard to go against your parents wishes as a child. Certainly your parents raise and affect you as an adult, but if you choose to move on, then you aren't what you were. You're arguing change is impossible, and society has already established that change is in fact possible.

 
growinthings [TotalFark] 2008-06-15 02:16:56 AM  
FredaDeStilleto: I don't care what religion he practices or has practiced or is believed to have practiced.

Unfortunately, many knuckle-draggers equate any association with the Islamic religion as being a terrorist.


///How right you are!!

 
Philbb 2008-06-15 02:17:17 AM  
CravenMorehead: What Obama was "born as" or "raised as" has no bearing on his religious beliefs today. And in a better world it wouldn't matter if it did.

I was talking to my teenage daughter, a week or so ago, and this came up. I told her that some people were saying that Obama was a Muslim. She said, "So?" I went on to tell her that it was irrelevant because he has been a practicing Christian for decades, but she couldn't understand why it would even matter in the first place.

/I was so proud

 
Control_this [TotalFark] 2008-06-15 02:17:51 AM  
If only Obama had a crazy Baptist preacher to rise to his defense.

 
tallguywithglasseson [TotalFark] 2008-06-15 02:26:45 AM  
Born a Muslim because Islam is patrilineal? Sorry, it doesn't work that way. Worthless "article" mostly saying the blogs are buzzing because it's true -- for evidence, just check out the blogs.

 
JohnnyC 2008-06-15 02:36:35 AM  
That looks distinctly like African and more specifically, Kenyan attire. Interesting that there would be a photo of Obama dressed in clothing from Kenya while he was visiting family in Kenya. That's so unusual for anyone to dress in any of the clothes from a place while they're visiting. You know what I mean? I mean, who does that? Who would wear the style of clothing or attire while they're visiting somewhere?

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Not only that, but you could go all occupational and such with the outfits as well as just regional... Speaking of that, check this one out:

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Pay extra attention to the peace sign he's flashing. I also particularly like the goofy grin on the face of the guy behind him. I bet that was a really special moment for that guy. I wonder if he has a copy of that picture in his bunk. Actually, that isn't true, I don't really wonder.

 
ksdanj [TotalFark] 2008-06-15 03:29:10 AM  
Broadcastdave: I heard an interesting argument that because Obama is an apostate the terrorists would be more likely to attack the USA.

Bring 'em on!

 
Whoatherebabie [TotalFark] 2008-06-15 03:58:19 AM  
Philbb: CravenMorehead: What Obama was "born as" or "raised as" has no bearing on his religious beliefs today. And in a better world it wouldn't matter if it did.

I was talking to my teenage daughter, a week or so ago, and this came up. I told her that some people were saying that Obama was a Muslim. She said, "So?" I went on to tell her that it was irrelevant because he has been a practicing Christian for decades, but she couldn't understand why it would even matter in the first place.

/I was so proud


Congratulation.

You've done well.

 
WhyteRaven74 [TotalFark] 2008-06-15 04:17:14 AM  
Here's a novel idea for Americans, stop giving a shiat who goes to what church, temple, mosque or what have you. And even better, stop giving a shiat if someone is even religious at all.

 
TheCommunistCow 2008-06-15 05:10:47 AM  
Is there anyone who would actually believe this crazy ass article?
I mean people who don't already think Obama is a scary black muslim antisemitic terrorist?

 
Occam's Chainsaw [TotalFark] 2008-06-15 05:15:17 AM  
TheCommunistCow: Is there anyone who would actually believe this crazy ass article?
I mean people who don't already think Obama is a scary black muslim antisemitic terrorist socialist appeaser that attends a racist extremist church?


FTFY.

 
Suicidal Writer 2008-06-15 05:23:58 AM  
Boy, the anti-Christ site is going to have a field day with this.

 
Big Dave 2008-06-15 05:30:24 AM  
Zionist jews are terrified that Obama will win and won't do their bidding

McCain will start the war with Iran they're been pushing for

 
Benjamin the Rogue 2008-06-15 05:32:54 AM  
"His Muslim background."

I'm gonna assume that this means his history with learning about Islamic traditions and culture, not "He IS/WAS a Muslim." And frankly, I don't really care if he is/was. He's done fine up to know. This just makes Americans look like a bunch of xenophobic racist crazies. That's a damn shame. Maybe if he had been white and learned about Islam, we wouldn't have to worry about it being an issue.

But I really hope they figure it out before he gets into the White House. I remember all those terrorist attacks on Congress after he made it there.

 
TappingTheVein 2008-06-15 05:37:07 AM  
Psychotropic: What does "born a Muslim" mean?

Doesn't matter if he is an atheist or a christian. Many muslims will see him as "one of us" since he is from a muslim family.

Technically he can be labeled as an apostate (from a muslim background, converted to christianity) and Islam is not very fond of apostates.

 
whitehouse4whites 2008-06-15 05:37:23 AM  
It's clear to anyone outside the Obama cult that his chances of getting elected are slim to none.

 
Benjamin the Rogue 2008-06-15 05:37:33 AM  
Suicidal Writer: Boy, the anti-Christ site is going to have a field day with this.

Oooh! Is this the new Hillaryis44?

 
Benjamin the Rogue 2008-06-15 05:39:06 AM  
whitehouse4whites: It's clear to anyone outside the Obama cult that his chances of getting elected are slim to none.

Hahahaha.

Wow, that's the most PowerTroll Profile I've ever seen. You must cast the nets deep and wide with that one.

I'm gonna follow you around, and see what you catch.

 
Poohba 2008-06-15 05:49:50 AM  
Is it just me, or does it seem superbly unwise for media outlets that represent Jews to be getting people fired up over someone's ethnic background and supposed religion? Religious intolerance hasn't always worked on the Jewish people's behalf. Irony tag unavailable?

 
Whoatherebabie [TotalFark] 2008-06-15 05:49:56 AM  
I am the youngest of eight and we all lived in the same house growing up. I can guarantee you at least 6 of my 7 siblings would tell stories about me that are not now, nor have ever been, true.

Obama's Ol'step-brother is just lookin' for a little limelight.

 
ghost_who_walks [TotalFark] 2008-06-15 05:53:59 AM  
sloppy shoes: How about this, in fairness to your children you are not allowed teach them anything about religion, and they must discover it and investigate it on their own?

OH wait, that would be intelligent and would prevent indoctrination of helpful children.


To paraphrase Dawkins, why do we do that? We don't say that children of Republicans are "born Republican", we don't call the children of Tory parents "Tory children"... so why do we do that with religion? Why is a child immediately painted with religion of the parents as if it where a fact, unchangeable?
Especially since such a high percentage of children end up changing spiritual beliefs, sometimes many times over the course of their life, and sometimes even before they are 18 years old...

 
Poohba 2008-06-15 05:54:10 AM  
Whoatherebabie: I am the youngest of eight and we all lived in the same house growing up. I can guarantee you at least 6 of my 7 siblings would tell stories about me that are not now, nor have ever been, true.

Obama's Ol'step-brother is just lookin' for a little limelight.


All he said was a vague reference to Obama's "Muslim background". It was the Israeli blog that said he was Muslim because Islam is "patrilineal".

 
TurboKitty 2008-06-15 05:54:23 AM  
Now you've gone and done it. I'm going to have to write 3 bills to my state senators...one each and have people sign petitions and all that jazz (I'm over committed now) just because we still have racism religion and idiocy. I'm going to have them outlaw all three human infractions. WILL SOMEONE MAKE THESE PEOPLE PAY TAXES PLEASE???

 
hillbillypharmacist [TotalFark] 2008-06-15 05:56:45 AM  
Poohba: Is it just me, or does it seem superbly unwise for media outlets that represent Jews to be getting people fired up over someone's ethnic background and supposed religion? Religious intolerance hasn't always worked on the Jewish people's behalf. Irony tag unavailable?

Nazi.

 
ghost_who_walks [TotalFark] 2008-06-15 05:57:29 AM  
Whoatherebabie: I am the youngest of eight and we all lived in the same house growing up. I can guarantee you at least 6 of my 7 siblings would tell stories about me that are not now, nor have ever been, true.

Obama's Ol'step-brother is just lookin' for a little limelight.


This.
Although in my case, what my brother and cousins could say about me that they though would be a good thing would probably sink any campaign I was involved in faster than you can say swiftboat.

 
Poohba 2008-06-15 05:59:09 AM  
Nazi? How so? I don't think anyone should be smeared for their ethnic or religious background. That would be anti-Nazi.

 
Occam's Chainsaw [TotalFark] 2008-06-15 06:03:16 AM  
whitehouse4whites: It's clear to anyone outside the Obama cult that his chances of getting elected are slim to none.

Anyone want to start a pool on when this one gets sponsored? Seems to be the theme here as of late.

Golf clap for the incredibly over-the-top troll login/post/profile.

/Is it sad or wonderful just how "meta" trolling has become?

 
savagebusinessman 2008-06-15 06:04:08 AM  
I love the way that this amazingly balanced article refutes BHO's own statements about his childhood and beliefs using a half-brother he first met in 1985.

 
Benjamin the Rogue 2008-06-15 06:05:02 AM  
Whoatherebabie: I am the youngest of eight and we all lived in the same house growing up. I can guarantee you at least 6 of my 7 siblings would tell stories about me that are not now, nor have ever been, true.

Obama's Ol'step-brother is just lookin' for a little limelight.


I don't really think that's the case. I think he was honestly trying to help. I think he was trying to put the Jewish community at ease by telling them that despite having some connections to Islam (whether it be by national association, or family ties, or from any school) he'd still be a good leader to them.

Then the media strapped it on and gave it to him.

 
Benjamin the Rogue 2008-06-15 06:06:53 AM  
Occam's Chainsaw: whitehouse4whites: It's clear to anyone outside the Obama cult that his chances of getting elected are slim to none.

Anyone want to start a pool on when this one gets sponsored? Seems to be the theme here as of late.

Golf clap for the incredibly over-the-top troll login/post/profile.

/Is it sad or wonderful just how "meta" trolling has become?


I'm afraid I might be one of those contributing to it...

Benjamin the Rogue: whitehouse4whites: It's clear to anyone outside the Obama cult that his chances of getting elected are slim to none.

Hahahaha.

Wow, that's the most PowerTroll Profile I've ever seen. You must cast the nets deep and wide with that one.

I'm gonna follow you around, and see what you catch.

 
Suicidal Writer 2008-06-15 06:10:01 AM  
Benjamin the Rogue:
Oooh! Is this the new Hillaryis44?


Outside of the creation of Stormfront Members for Truth, I don't think anyone is topping Hillaryis44

 
shpritz 2008-06-15 06:23:32 AM  
He just needs to come out of the atheist closet and get rid of all those silly rumors.

 
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