Dirty commies...

Hmmmm, headline's not trolly enough to start an immediate flamewar. I believe a story about the anniversary of when 'In God We Trust' was added to coins would be a very calm, rational discussion.

Ron Paul Revere: NeverDrunk23: Hmmmm, headline's not trolly enough to start an immediate flamewar. I believe a story about the anniversary of when 'In God We Trust' was added to coins would be a very calm, rational discussion.

COMMIE SCUM!

That's Mr. Commie Scum to you, you non-yellow ribbon driving, demonic Atheist!

From what I have read on Fark, it seems like people are more ticked off at the pledge itself than the 'under God' part.

/One Nation, UnderDog.....

I'm getting a kick out of these replies because...

My high school ran 220 days a year instead of the usual 180, so when I was a senior, and reckoned I had said the Pledge of Allegiance the usual number of times (180x3) I stopped saying it. I didn't make a big deal of it, just stood and didn't put my hand over my heart and mouth words, but someone noticed and I got into trouble over it. Got called a commie, and all sorts of other stuff.

There is nothing rational about adding your religious mumbo gumbo to the pledge.

You want to worship "God", be my guest. I don't care. Keep it out of my government and laws.

TheGrayCat: There is nothing rational about adding your religious mumbo gumbo to the pledge.

You want to worship "God", be my guest. I don't care. Keep it out of my government and laws.

You're much too sane and rational. Are you quite sure you're an American?

I find forced recitations of the pledge in schools and other such settings to be far more egregious than two words that mean almost nothing to anybody who utters them.

Not directed at anyone here specifically.

TheGrayCat: There is nothing rational about adding your religious mumbo gumbo to the pledge.

You want to worship "God", be my guest. I don't care. Keep it out of my government and laws.

Mumbo Gumbo? What do these guys have to do with the pledge of allegiance?

I had to say it in school, and eventually I didn't care. I recited it, but I did it out of habit. It didn't really mean anything to me.

NeverDrunk23: I had to say it in school, and eventually I didn't care. I recited it, but I did it out of habit. It didn't really mean anything to me.

That's ok, I don't think it really means anything to half the people in D.C. either.

Weaver95: NeverDrunk23: I had to say it in school, and eventually I didn't care. I recited it, but I did it out of habit. It didn't really mean anything to me.

That's ok, I don't think it really means anything to half the people in D.C. either.

There was no importance surrounding it. Eventually, it just turned into the thing where I had to stand for a minute.

But I didn't protest against it I didn't care either way.

On the one hand, it's a waste of breath. On the other hand, it annoys liberals and atheists so I can't really believe it's a total waste. In conclusion, I survived saying it in school and I survived my last encounter with the pledge when a bunch of faux-patriotic politicans decided to recite the Dread Words before a legislative hearing after 9/11, and you can too.

NeverDrunk23: Weaver95: NeverDrunk23: I had to say it in school, and eventually I didn't care. I recited it, but I did it out of habit. It didn't really mean anything to me.

That's ok, I don't think it really means anything to half the people in D.C. either.

There was no importance surrounding it. Eventually, it just turned into the thing where I had to stand for a minute.

But I didn't protest against it I didn't care either way.

That's about exactly what I thought of it. I never put any thought into the meaning of the words, it was just forced recitation.

NeverDrunk23: But I didn't protest against it I didn't care either way.

Yep. After a war on drugs and now a war on terror, it's mostly just lip service these days anyway. In some ways, the soul dead apathy scares me more than the fanatics who want to shred the Constitution in order to save it. I mean, at least the fanatics care. Most everyone else just sorta sits there.

I didn't even have to say it in junior high or high school. The last time I said it at school was in 6th grade.

I'm mostly with the people who are talking about it being meaningless words to most people. I'm also with the people who see something cognitively dissonant about requiring people to pledge allegiance to a symbol of freedom or else.

Rational conversation to the right, but not from the right.

/That should help get things going

GAT_00: Rational conversation to the right, but not from the right.

/That should help get things going

No, no, no. A better way to do it would have been:

'54 years ago today, the words "under God" were added to the Pledge of Allegiance. But since this doesn't apply to know-it-all, liberal atheists, they can go back to their 'I'm so much better than you stupid religious' circle-jerk.'

A thread about 'In God We Trust' would be interesting.

FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM OI!!!

2wolves: Dirty commies...

this

of course the pledge itself is totally unconstitutional (no one can force you to take it) and is used as propaganda in our schools

sigh

NeverDrunk23: A thread about 'In God We Trust' would be interesting.

if we could truly TRUST god ... wouldn't he have given us fair and open elections over the last 8 years?
wouldn't he have provided a more competent prez ?

nope, cant trust god no more

I said it every morning in school. Once I decided I wasn't sure about god, I stopped saying those words.

I think the idea of the pledge is okay, a little jingoism never hurts.

/USA! USA!

submitter: 54 years ago today, the words "under God" were added to the Pledge of Allegiance.

Well, you can't argue with that. I mean, that's definitely when the words were added.

At the time, it was believed that godless communists were a big threat.

Thankfully we now know the true threat is gay marriage.

The day "Under God" and "In God We Trust" are officially dropped will be a very good one for America.

I'm thinking it will be another 25-50 years.


_{/A good day-- at least until Yahweh throws a tantrum and sends out the hurricanes, plagues and terrorist attacks.
//Paving the way for invasion by dinosaur riding Nazis, of course.}

ZAZ: On the one hand, it's a waste of breath. On the other hand, it annoys liberals and atheists so I can't really believe it's a total waste. In conclusion, I survived saying it in school and I survived my last encounter with the pledge when a bunch of faux-patriotic politicans decided to recite the Dread Words before a legislative hearing after 9/11, and you can too.

Mmm no I can't. I quit saying it when I was a kid. I would stand and put my hand over my heart but I couldn't recite the words. I didn't believe in it and wouldn't swear to it.

/I won't tell you I love you when I don't mean it either

Riche: The day "Under God" and "In God We Trust" are officially dropped will be a very good one for America.

I'm thinking it will be another 25-50 years.


/A good day-- at least until Yahweh throws a tantrum and sends out the hurricanes, plagues and terrorist attacks.
//Paving the way for invasion by dinosaur riding Nazis, of course.

Even if the 'In God We Trust' is discontinued on the bills and coins, its still there on the old money. Then you won't start seeing a difference for at least 50 years if it was stopped today.

And the pledge was written by a socialist originally. Now, can we drop the indoctrination and get back to being a nation of free people that don't have a flag fetish?

symbolism that trivilizes religion FTW!

And this should be a warning to christianist appeasers. Sticking the word "God" on shiat doesn't placate them. They just get louder. Theocracy now!

We need coins with more boobies.

I was going to say that I think the pledge should be changed to say; "I pledge allegiance to the principles of the United States of America..." But then I realized that pledging allegiance to the US's principles presents a Catch-22, where if you're giving them your unquestioning support, you're actually totally undermining them.

So yea, let's just leave the pledge as it is. It may sound like it's straight out of a George Orwell novel, but at least it's consistent.

If Obama wins and the Dems control Congress, those words better be stricken.

AlanSmithee: We need coins with more boobies.

I fourth that motion.

Happy Birthday
Eddie Mekka!!!

/upper right
//Schlemeel, schlemazel...

I've mentioned this on other similar threads... but I keep a series 1950 dollar bill (pre-In God We Trust) in my wallet, just to show people how new a thing it is.

Of course, the dollar has lost about 95% of its value (and still sinking) since 1954... so maybe putting God's name on our lucre did not exactly curry Her favor...

The Beacon Man -- what a deliciously unamusing cartoon from you!

1. Put snakes on plane: If Obama wins and the Dems control Congress, those words better be stricken.

and replaced with "under allah"

If this was really a nation under God, there wouldn't be such insane inequalities of wealth and income, ignorance, corruption, selfishness, etc.

It's one nation most of whose people think they're under God.

I tend to think that taking loyalty oaths in a democracy is rather disloyal.

Obama won't say the pledge of allegiance? ^{(^)}

Beacon Man, I see your facepalm, but would you like to explain a little your thinking behind it?

^^^ please do. True belief in God requires action consistent with it.

Lawnchair: I've mentioned this on other similar threads... but I keep a series 1950 dollar bill (pre-In God We Trust) in my wallet, just to show people how new a thing it is.

Of course, the dollar has lost about 95% of its value (and still sinking) since 1954... so maybe putting God's name on our lucre did not exactly curry Her favor...

I used to carry a 1900 Indian Head penny in my wallet for the same reason, but I lost it.

ZAZ: On the one hand, it's a waste of breath. On the other hand, it annoys liberals and atheists so I can't really believe it's a total waste. In conclusion, I survived saying it in school and I survived my last encounter with the pledge when a bunch of faux-patriotic politicans decided to recite the Dread Words before a legislative hearing after 9/11, and you can too.

Meh. Then you can listen to me exercising my first amendment rights and biatching about it for one minute every day.

You'll get over it.

Hobodeluxe: Obama won't say the pledge of allegiance? (^)

That's just code for his evil Muslim-Atheist-Jedi-Furry sleeper cells to initiate their attack on America. He really hates this country.

See? Can't you see the hatred in his soulless eyes? No amount of pancakes will ever stop his evil plan.

I find the coerced, mindless daily repetition of the Pledge by schoolchildren everyday to be more disturbing on account of its nationalism, than for its religious overtones.

You know who else demanded large, public displays of conformity and professions of loyalty to nationalist symbols?