Just because you get a new job doesn't mean that certain rules shouldn't apply to you. He signed a lease agreement and he should follow it just like his orders he has received at his new job.

Oh, and he was just getting shipped off to basic, not a war zone.

Mmm...I think this might be covered under the Sailors and Soldiers Relief Act; IIRC, orders for active duty (including basic training) are grounds for release from rental contracts.

Get us the email and phone number to the complex, and "RELEASE THE DOGS OF FARK"

Ol' Hokie: Get us the email and phone number to the complex, and "RELEASE THE DOGS OF FARK"

Don't forget this important posting rule:
Don't post private/contact information no matter how easily obtained.

If it's legally required that they terminate or postpone the lease, that's one thing. But if not, soldiers shouldn't be exempt from the same rules and regulations that civilians face, particularly in this case. It's not like he got called up suddenly -- he joined the army last month. He should have known he would be going to basic training soon, and should have planned his obligations accordingly.

I missed the part in the article where it mentioned that he was required to give them 30 days' notice, and he gave them 17 days' notice. Tough shiat, buddy. Pay for the last month and quit whining.

DocPetey: Mmm...I think this might be covered under the Sailors and Soldiers Relief Act; IIRC, orders for active duty (including basic training) are grounds for release from rental contracts.

Soldiers and Sailors protection act does NOT cover those who signed up for duty *after* they signed the lease. It's part of most standard lease addendums. Only if he were drafted would it work.

Since he *chose* to enter duty during his lease term, he chose to break his lease.

If he can't figure out the rules of living in an apartment, he's going to have ALL kinds of fun in the military ;)

oh and FWIW, Im both a former Airman, and now work in property management.

/is getting a kick out of these replies.

Yeah, my instinct was to say that the apartment management was being rather inconsiderate, but the facts of the article seem to point toward the renter being the moran here.

SpinStopper: If he can't figure out the rules of living in an apartment, he's going to have ALL kinds of fun in the military ;)

Maybe it'll be good for him.

I agree with the apartment complex on this one.

No need to call in an airstrike.

They'll be sorry when he comes back buff and ready, an army of one.

The military will pay it off. All he has to do is explain the situation to his recruiter.

Oh, guess I should have RTFA first. Well, it sounds like he will only owe for one month due to the required 30 day notice. That's not so bad. The military ought to pay for that.

Bob Ondeeznuts: Just because you get a new job doesn't mean that certain rules shouldn't apply to you. He signed a lease agreement and he should follow it just like his orders he has received at his new job.

Someone was a dumbass for not negotiating "military deployment" as a reason for breaking the lease when signing. The dude belonged in the military, was it any surprise to him that he got deployed? When we're actively at war in two countries?

Double DUH

ExJerseyGirl: I agree with the apartment complex on this one.

FTFA: Martin contends the lease agreement that Camden is trying to enforce is invalid because it violates Florida law. The lease defines a service member as only someone on active military duty, which is contrary to Florida law, Martin said. The law recognizes reservists and members of the National Guard as service members in addition to those on active duty, he said.

If this is true, I don't see how it is possible to side with the complex. An illegal lease is by definition invalid.

oh god, i hate cambden apartments. I lived in a place owned by them for a year and they repeatedly lost my rent checks and were consistently a$$holes about everything. I hope they burn in hell.

He acknowledged he gave the complex only 17 days' notice when state law allows military members to break their leases if they provide 30 days' notice and documentation.

Says it all.

and when he dies in action? His mother will be receiving two knocks.

Bob Ondeeznuts: Just because you get a new job doesn't mean that certain rules shouldn't apply to you. He signed a lease agreement and he should follow it just like his orders he has received at his new job.

No, there are LAWS both State and Federal that apply to this. And no lease or contract may ever trump actual laws. A lot of people don't understand this unfortunately, which is why sleazy businesses will put in terms that have no legal basis, or go against established law because they know 80% of the time, people will bend over and take it any which way they want to stick it.

There are a number of things in this matter that tell me the landlord is not playing above the board here. First, they are saying he provided FAKE ORDERS, even after his recruiter contacted them personally. Secondly, according to the FTFA "The lease defines a service member as only someone on active military duty, while the law recognizes reservists and members of the National Guard as service members in addition to those on active duty"

The article even mentioned that he was in the wrong for only providing 19 days notice instead of 30. But to me, that's a no brainer, just pay the additional 11 days rent and be done with it. The fact that this is going to court says they want to hold him through the full term of his lease regardless of State and Federal laws.

SpinStopper: If he can't figure out the rules of living in an apartment, he's going to have ALL kinds of fun in the military ;)

This

As someone who worked in legal for the Army, this 30 year old needs to provide official orders to the complex in the appropriate manner before entering military service. Its all in Section 304 of SSCRA.

Most likely he pays his lease monthly, in which case he would have to give them a months notice.

It doesn't matter that he signed up after he signed his lease agreement. If he signed a lease after entering military service then he has no recourse.

I'm on the apartment's side on this one, but the SSCRA will allow this guy to get out of the lease if he goes through the proper steps.

Piss poor, Camden Lakes, piss poor.

That's the thanks he gets for serving his country while lazy people on food stamps reap benefits and rewarded for their behavior.

Degenz: SpinStopper: If he can't figure out the rules of living in an apartment, he's going to have ALL kinds of fun in the military ;)

This

NO, not THAT.

If you can't figure out that just because something is in a contract doesn't mean it trumps actual laws that protect you from predatory businesses, you wont have very much fun while you get screwed by every schmuck who wants to put in unlawful terms that you feel bound to.

He's not a soldier yet, and he'll get paid enough at basic to keep the apartment.

Welcome to Fark, the place where people to chicken shiat to serve in the military take shots at those who do.

Dumbass Torrance,CA.,cops showed up at my parents house to arrest me for not serving jury duty. I was in the middle of a war.

Exactly libbyshome. He decides to play rambo on the spur of the moment. And rather than giving 30 days notice and sucking up the other 13-14 days he cries foul and files lawsuits.

FTA: '"I figured I might as well do something to benefit my country large American corporations and the wealthy, rather than take from people who need it more than I do like the corporations and wealthy I'm about to enslave myself to," he said.'

FTFH

Bob Ondeeznuts: Just because you get a new job doesn't mean that certain rules shouldn't apply to you. He signed a lease agreement and he should follow it just like his orders he has received at his new job.

I fully agree.

FTFA:
what he provided were not official orders, according to Agosta and a lawsuit filed Tuesday on his behalf.

At this point, I'm siding against the apartment complex. I've seen official orders, I grew up as an Air Force brat (when we moved away from Shaw AFB, SC, my dad was so happy he showed me the orders), I even enlisted into the Army, I know what orders look like, either the apartment complex is ran by complete morans and/or they are trying to screw over this guy. Let it go to trial, the moment they say "these are clearly fake orders." the apartment complex will lose. Doesn't matter if he didn't give a full 30 days notice.

MIguy: Welcome to Fark, the place where people to chicken shiat to serve in the military take shots at those who do.

Next thing you know, these godless America-haters will expect soldiers to pay for things they buy.

/where does it end?

It's going to be double headlines when he gets injured or kicked out of bootcamp and the apartment is no longer available, because the landlord caved in to pressure and let him out of his lease.

MIguy: Welcome to Fark, the place where people to chicken shiat to serve in the military take shots at those who do.

Or as I call them...Democrats.

MIguy: Welcome to Fark, the place where people to chicken shiat to serve in the military take shots at those who do.

I spent my time in the US Navy. Less than fun. You?

rcain: Degenz: SpinStopper: If he can't figure out the rules of living in an apartment, he's going to have ALL kinds of fun in the military ;)

This

NO, not THAT.

If you can't figure out that just because something is in a contract doesn't mean it trumps actual laws that protect you from predatory businesses, you wont have very much fun while you get screwed by every schmuck who wants to put in unlawful terms that you feel bound to.

You don't... actually BOTHER to read things do you rcain?

No, there are no laws that protect him. He needs to pay the full months rent if that's what he agreed to. If he agreed to the entire year, he needs to find someone to sublet and in a hurry.

MIguy: Welcome to Fark, the place where people to chicken shiat to serve in the military take shots at those who do.

From people TO chicken shiat? What a range!!! I didn't know chicken shiat could think!!! I thought it was solid waste matter, like you might find between the ears of conservative, lower class white trash who don't know grammar!!!!

Keep being a lapdog!! Maybe they'll throw you a bone!!!

but they won't

Dude, pay your last months rent.

/Veteran

rcain: Degenz: SpinStopper: If he can't figure out the rules of living in an apartment, he's going to have ALL kinds of fun in the military ;)

This

NO, not THAT.

If you can't figure out that just because something is in a contract doesn't mean it trumps actual laws that protect you from predatory businesses, you wont have very much fun while you get screwed by every schmuck who wants to put in unlawful terms that you feel bound to.

LOL, YES, that INDEED. He joined the Army after signing the lease. No judge will be applying those laws retroactively my friend.

It would be one thing if he was drafted...

What garbage, I am a vet and this asshat joined after he had his lease in place.. It is a know fact if you join they are sending you to basic (boot camp) traing.. just the farking way it is.. let the little piss ant pay for what he contractually signed to do.. nuff said.

Bob Ondeeznuts: Just because you get a new job doesn't mean that certain rules shouldn't apply to you. He signed a lease agreement and he should follow it just like his orders he has received at his new job.

By the way, you might want to read the article, dipshiat.

Beware the apotheosis of the soldier.

Seriously, guys. It's not a good thing. It ends badly.

MIguy: Welcome to Fark, the place where people to chicken shiat to serve in the military take shots at those who do.

So that's it. If you don't join the military, you're "chicken shiat"?

Let's see...Bad troll attempt? Some sort of delay in this weekend's NASCAR race and there's nothing better to do?

ptelg: rcain: Degenz: SpinStopper: If he can't figure out the rules of living in an apartment, he's going to have ALL kinds of fun in the military ;)

This

NO, not THAT.

If you can't figure out that just because something is in a contract doesn't mean it trumps actual laws that protect you from predatory businesses, you wont have very much fun while you get screwed by every schmuck who wants to put in unlawful terms that you feel bound to.

You don't... actually BOTHER to read things do you rcain?

No, there are no laws that protect him. He needs to pay the full months rent if that's what he agreed to. If he agreed to the entire year, he needs to find someone to sublet and in a hurry.

Thank you

ComicBookGuy: who don't know grammar!!!!

OMFG I made a mistake between to and too. I a complete farking failure and should end it all. See you guys, I'm off too hang myself.

Just give the landlord 30 days notice and pay the extra 2 weeks later. He doesn't have to stay for his whole lease until March 2009.

The guy was there for over 4 years you would think the landlord would at least acknowledge he isn't some gutter kid trying to get out of his lease.