Obama surges ahead of McCain in the only count that really matters to the douchebags at Daily Kossack.

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ndotseth: Fixed it for you, subby.
You're welcome!

Are you suggesting that there is a method of electing a president that does not depend upon the electoral vote count? Because if there is, I'm sure McCain would love to hear it.

ndotseth: Obama surges ahead of McCain in the only count that really matters to the douchebags at Daily Kossack.

Fixed it for you, subby.
You're welcome!

The electoral college doesn't matter to conservatives? or is it just you guys don't care about polling results because they're nothing a little luck and Diebold can't fix?

ndotseth: Fixed it for you, subby.
You're welcome!

your a moran

Hey, it's always nice to get good news. But this early in the game it's somewhat moot.

thats with a tie in VA, a loss in NV, and a win in MO. none of those are certain. unless mccain develops some kind of coherent message i think things will continue to drift towards obama.


one thing helping Obama is the glut of very strong candidates for statewide office in states that are within in his grasp. VA, NM and CO sen, and the dem running for MO gov is up pretty big.

ndotseth's Trolling 101

1) Scour TF for any headlines that say anything positive about liberals or Democrats.

2) Get in the Weeners to set the tone/establish the distraction.

3) Disappear.

4) Profit.

270 to win says it's a tossup

But by all means...go ahead and start celebrating...no need to donate! No need to even vote in November!

Wait...when was the election?

It's gonna be a long 5 months.

Diogenes: 3) Disappear.

That's called "cowardly" in my book. He fits that description nicely.

(much like his heroes and idols in DC, cowards all)

what_now: It's gonna be a long 5 months.

No shiat.

This just in:

Math doesn't count if douchebags are encouraged by it.

None of this seems to take into account the GOP's control of the counting of the votes.

You just know that if McCain wins we'll be subjected to 4 years of "The Election was stolen" and/or "This just proves that America is RACIST" crap.

Whamdangler: None of this seems to take into account the GOP's control of the counting of the votes.


yeah and I bet the boys at Stasi were pretty smug knowing the controlled the guys guarding the Berlin Wall too. By the time they realizeed what was going on it was too late and they were left desprately trying to flick thier bics and get rid of the most incriminating evidence before the mobs knocked the door down.

Every candidate, regardless of party, gets a bump in the polls when they become the presumptive nominee. McCain got one too.

No one should say they didn't expect this. Does it matter? Only until the next poll comes out.

It' June.

It's not even LATE June. It's EARLY June.

Holding a pre-natal pullet census can cause you real problems.

Since when did aggregating state poll numbers become any more accurate than a straight national poll? They're both way off base. Six months before the Iowa caucus, Edwards was more than five points ahead of his next competitor.

So is concern troll sill concerned? Or does this put his mind at ease?

Bill_Wick's_Friend: That's called "cowardly" in my book. He fits that description nicely.

I agree. It's no different than vandalism in that sense.

/cybervandalism?

Nothing matters until November.

andyb2260: You just know that if McCain wins we'll be subjected to 4 years of "The Election was stolen" and/or "This just proves that America is RACIST" crap.

I don't know how old you are Andy, but if you're under 30, I'd say you're much more likely to be drafted if McCain wins.

BobtheFascist: Nothing matters until November.



Aaiiight.

Bill_Wick's_Friend: That's called "cowardly" in my book. He fits that description nicely.

I've never seen him post twice in a thread.

President Dukakis can tell you about the fact that polls in June hold up into November.

The RNC and McCain have more money than the DNC and Obama. Obama is wasting money at a tremendous rate. Clinton donors won't donate to Obama. Dean doesn't know how to raise money for the DNC.

4 and a half months of RNC/McCain heat on Obama will melt his candidacy.

Obama has started off with such an insanely negative campaign that by the time McCain pulls out the big guns in October, there will be no backlash to the October Surprise?

So what is the October Surprise? The Whitey Tape? Obama being linked to drug dealing? Obama making yet another gaffe (funny how such a supposedly eloquent speaker is so gaffeprone)?

It will be something to make you Obamacrats regret turning down Hillary Clinton.

Is the Electoral College good or evil this week?

Diogenes: Hey, it's always nice to get good news. But this early in the game it's somewhat moot.

Yes and yes.

You are right. I like you.

McCainDemocrat: It will be something to make you Obamacrats regret turning down Hillary Clinton.

I see you are concerned about this topic.

/That's just precious.

I guess this means the election is over, right?

McCainDemocrat: President Dukakis can tell you about the fact that polls in June hold up into November.

The RNC and McCain have more money than the DNC and Obama. Obama is wasting money at a tremendous rate. Clinton donors won't donate to Obama. Dean doesn't know how to raise money for the DNC.

4 and a half months of RNC/McCain heat on Obama will melt his candidacy.

Obama has started off with such an insanely negative campaign that by the time McCain pulls out the big guns in October, there will be no backlash to the October Surprise?

So what is the October Surprise? The Whitey Tape? Obama being linked to drug dealing? Obama making yet another gaffe (funny how such a supposedly eloquent speaker is so gaffeprone)?

It will be something to make you Obamacrats regret turning down Hillary Clinton.

Whoever programs this bot should try to tweak the programming to cram a little fewer non-sequiters in each post. It would seem more natural.

It's June.

And this is the same site where 2 out of it's 3 algorithms predicted Kerry winning.

From the poll site: "Where did the polls go wrong? The problem states were Florida, Iowa, New Mexico, and Wisconsin..."

From Kos: "After finally moving ahead in Michigan, and following some corrections on Indiana, Barack Obama is turning five former Red States Blue (Colorado, Iowa, New Mexico, Missouri & Ohio)..."

If Iowa, New Mexico, and Missouri go blue, I'll be surprised.

My point? Polls are pretty worthless right now.

When you consider that Obama only won Missouri due to polls showing Clinton winning by 10, it would take another miracle for Obama to beat McCain in Missouri.

Remember, the Gut of America starts in Oklahoma, goes to South Missouri and Arkansas, then into Tennessee, Kentucky, and then to Appalachia.

Obama can't win the gut of America.

Numerous Hillarybackers all over America are preparing to back McCain.

If McCain is truely smart, he will take advice from Bob Corker. Corker won an upset over a moderate named Harold Ford by disorienting the Ford campaign with negative ads. If it would work on a moderate like Ford, it's guaranteed to work on Obama.

what_now: I don't know how old you are Andy, but if you're under 30, I'd say you're much more likely to be drafted if McCain wins.

Right, because the vast majority of draftees for the world wars, Korea and Vietnam were drafted during Republican administrations and a Democratic administration ended the draft, right?

McCainDemocrat: Obama can't win the gut of America.

Meh.. You also said he couldn't win the Demo nomination. And you've got a history of repeatedly being proven wrong.

Nostrodamus you ain't.

McCainDemocrat: If McCain is truely smart, he will take advice from Bob Corker. Corker won an upset over a moderate named Harold Ford by disorienting the Ford campaign with negative ads. If it would work on a moderate like Ford, it's guaranteed to work on Obama.

Ya, the LAST thing the Obama campaign is going to expect is the GOP to start attacking with negative ads.

Sir Roderick Glossop
Diogenes: Hey, it's always nice to get good news. But this early in the game it's somewhat moot.

Yes and yes.

You are right. I like you.

I'm going to say 'THIS' (partly due to D.'s wisdom in other threads). You were more straightforward.

McCainDemocrat: President Dukakis can tell you about the fact that polls in June hold up into November.

The RNC and McCain have more money than the DNC and Obama. Obama is wasting money at a tremendous rate. Clinton donors won't donate to Obama. Dean doesn't know how to raise money for the DNC.

4 and a half months of RNC/McCain heat on Obama will melt his candidacy.

Obama has started off with such an insanely negative campaign that by the time McCain pulls out the big guns in October, there will be no backlash to the October Surprise?

So what is the October Surprise? The Whitey Tape? Obama being linked to drug dealing? Obama making yet another gaffe (funny how such a supposedly eloquent speaker is so gaffeprone)?

It will be something to make you Obamacrats regret turning down Hillary Clinton.

Whamdangler: None of this seems to take into account the GOP's control of the counting of the votes.

Quoted for emphasis.

pandabear: what_now: I don't know how old you are Andy, but if you're under 30, I'd say you're much more likely to be drafted if McCain wins.

Right, because the vast majority of draftees for the world wars, Korea and Vietnam were drafted during Republican administrations and a Democratic administration ended the draft, right?

That was a pretty bad analogy, skippy.

Whamdangler: None of this seems to take into account the GOP's control of the counting of the votes.

Yeah, that's how they lost both houses of Congress.

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Whamdangler: None of this seems to take into account the GOP's control of the counting of the votes.

Yeah, that's how they lost both houses of Congress.

You don't need Congress... just Ohio and Florida.

McCainDemocrat:
What in God's name are you talking about?

President Dukakis can tell you about the fact that polls in June hold up into November.

This is the only point you make that I agree with. 5 months is a long time. Anything can happen on either side.

The RNC and McCain have more money than the DNC and Obama. Obama is wasting money at a tremendous rate. Clinton donors won't donate to Obama. Dean doesn't know how to raise money for the DNC.

Oh, so wrong. Obama has consistently shattered fundraising records and has more than 2 1/2 times the money in his warchest than McCain. Not to mention, Obama isn't accepting any money from special interest groups or lobbyists, unlike your guy.

Oh, and then there's that little incident where McCain borrowed $4M from his local bank early on because his campaign was bankrupt. Then he borrowed $4M from the Federal Election Committee to pay it off. That's a CLEAR violation of the same spending limits he himself swore to uphold.

Obama has started off with such an insanely negative campaign that by the time McCain pulls out the big guns in October, there will be no backlash to the October Surprise?

Negative campaign? I've saw Obama give McCain a back-handed compliments in his speech on June 3rd, but nothing outwardly negative in anything prior or since. And certainly not the mud-slinging of elections in the past.

To his credit, though, McCain has backed away from negative campaigning, as well. But FoxNews is doing his job for him, accusing Obama & his wife's knuckle-bump as a terrorist signal & referring to Michelle Obama as "Obama's Baby Mama".

So what is the October Surprise? The Whitey Tape? Obama being linked to drug dealing? Obama making yet another gaffe (funny how such a supposedly eloquent speaker is so gaffeprone)?

First, there is no tape. I've said this since day one of hearing about it--the tape rumor is just that. It's a Karl Rove-like distraction that gets everyone talking and thinking there IS a tape when in fact none exists.

As for gaffes, look to your own candidate. "It's not important" when the troops come home, he admits he doesn't know a lot about the economy, doesn't know computers, needs Lieberman to tell him who's supposedly being trained in Iran--the list goes on.

It will be something to make you Obamacrats regret turning down Hillary Clinton.

...and I have no bloody idea what point your trying to make with that last statement.

Whamdangler: None of this seems to take into account the GOP's control of the counting of the votes.

that explains how the GOP lost all those offices in Ohio

McCainDemocrat: that explains how the GOP lost all those offices in Ohio

The GOP.

Corrupt and incompetent.



In that order.

Diogenes: ndotseth's Trolling 101

1) Scour TF for any headlines that say anything positive about liberals or Democrats.

2) Get in the Weeners to set the tone/establish the distraction.

3) Disappear.

4) Profit.

I'm really starting to think that ndotseth is dougske...

If not THE dougske then certainly heir to the crown.

I wanna believe this, but until www.fivethirtyeight.com has Ohio, Michigan, and Missouri going Obama, I think it's still kinda close. Although I'm confident it will eventually break this way, along with Virginia going blue.

McCainDemocrat: So what is the October Surprise?

Impeachment. Of your Glorious Leader. All Hail the Decider!