Bwahahahahaha! Good one subby. +1

I hope this goes green just so I can watch the flames.

then you two should vote!
/subby

A bullet to the head is just as efficient and will possibly pass this judge's muster based on the Che' photo behind him. How do we get kooks like this as judges? The U.S. Supreme Court already ruled on this some months ago. Cocktail or straight, put this guy away.

I'll probably vote for Obama.

That out of the way, did this guy let his teenager decorate his office?! WTF!

/bring back the firing squad

Well done albo.

That's too funny.

HAHAHAHA!!!
That picture pretty much sums up the presidential race.
Priceless...

That judge looks like farking Don Cherry.

Ah... Lorain County.

I'd bet money that he graduated from Oberlin and just never left.

Nnnyess, conservative humor is somewhat of an oxymoron, I suppose.

PurplePimpSaber: Nnnyess, conservative humor is somewhat of an oxymoron, I suppose.

Old Fart Henry your not.

I think this is funny, too.



It's like he's just daring a RW blogger to go nuts all over him, and by extension, of course, Obama.

What is it about Che that makes so many Americans idolize him? Is it just the romance of the revolutionary? I saw 'motorcycle diaries' and it was an interesting movie and all, but I didn't feel compelled to put a poster of the man on my wall or anything.

Skleenar:
What is it about Che that makes so many Americans idolize him? Is it just the romance of the revolutionary?

I'm pretty sure it's the beret. People dream of sitting in a cafe somewhere, with good wine and bad cigarettes.

sepuku2: PurplePimpSaber: Nnnyess, conservative humor is somewhat of an oxymoron, I suppose.

Old Fart Henry your not.

Somebody's gotta pick up the slack while he's taking a break from TF.

Skleenar: What is it about Che that makes so many Americans idolize him

that photo. that's it. most of the people who wear him don't realize he was a murderous sociopath. it's like having a t-shirt with pol pot on it.

albo: that photo. that's it.

Exactly. Love him or hate him, that picture makes him look cool.

On the topic of painless execution, I never understood why the didn't just put them in a closed garage with a car running. I always heard that you just go to sleep then die. You could even allow the inmate to choose his last tunes much like they get to choose their last meal.

Skleenar: What is it about Che that makes so many Americans idolize him? Is it just the romance of the revolutionary? I saw 'motorcycle diaries' and it was an interesting movie and all, but I didn't feel compelled to put a poster of the man on my wall or anything.

The honest, embarrassing answer? People really have no idea who he is or what he did. They don't even know where he was from. The iconic t-shirt/poster image became popular among college socialist groups and by extension those who latched onto that culture not because of its politics, but rather because of its image. The fundamental truth is this: Americans tend to confuse Che Guevara with César Chávez.

I did too, when I was a kid.

So here's the big difference for all you younger, left leaning kids out there who want to be in the know:

César Chávez = Union organizer, hero, man-of-the-people, died an American
Che Guevara = murdering f*ckhead who could give a sh*t about the people

albo:

that photo.



The Dr. Zaius one?

he was a murderous sociopath.

Great Men (tm) leave dead people in their wake. It's what happens.

Did Che do something especially bloodthirsty or cruel that you are basing this assertion on?

Heh!

Three Crooked Squirrels: albo: that photo. that's it.

Exactly. Love him or hate him, that picture makes him look cool.

On the topic of painless execution, I never understood why the didn't just put them in a closed garage with a car running.

Gah! With gas prices the way they are?

Skleenar: Great Men (tm) leave dead people in their wake. It's what happens.

Did Che do something especially bloodthirsty or cruel that you are basing this assertion on?

Look man, I'm as left as they come. If I were any more bleeding heart I'd be a vegan, solar-powered organic book-store cooperative owner who advocates for the marriage of gay abortions.

But Che Guevara did some outright nasty, hypocritical sh*t in the bulk of his lifetime. He not only argued for the importation of soviet missiles to Cuba during that whole little 'crisis' thing we had going, but he really, REALLY wanted Castro to use them and destroy the whole f*cking hemisphere. That's just a taste. There are many excellent biographies that, while even trying to idolize the man, list his crimes in a handy, powerpoint ready bullet-point index of why a person should burn in hell.

Skleenar: Great Men (tm) leave dead people in their wake. It's what happens.

Did Che do something especially bloodthirsty or cruel that you are basing this assertion on?

on the actual history and actions of the bastard, not the glowing revisions of left historians. here's a link to a Slate review of that film distortion of him:

"Che was a totalitarian. He achieved nothing but disaster. Many of the early leaders of the Cuban Revolution favored a democratic or democratic-socialist direction for the new Cuba. But Che was a mainstay of the hardline pro-Soviet faction, and his faction won. Che presided over the Cuban Revolution's first firing squads. He founded Cuba's "labor camp" system"

Slate (new window)

he was a cold-blooded killer who despised democracy and individual freedom

And we're green. Speaking of a trail of bodies, I hope you're proud of yourself, albo; this has some real Friday potential.

PurplePimpSaber: sepuku2: PurplePimpSaber: Nnnyess, conservative humor is somewhat of an oxymoron, I suppose.

Old Fart Henry your not.

Somebody's gotta pick up the slack while he's taking a break from TF.

Maybe, but I think we should, out of respect, refrain.

CtrlAltDelete: If I were any more bleeding heart I'd be a vegan, solar-powered organic book-store cooperative owner who advocates for the marriage of gay abortions.

I support gay abortion marriages.

Well, they are looking in opposite directions...

CtrlAltDelete: Look man, I'm as left as they come. If I were any more bleeding heart I'd be a vegan, solar-powered organic book-store cooperative owner who advocates for the marriage of gay abortions.

I don't know much about Che, other than the fact he looked like a planet of the apes extra.

All I know is I continually hear assertions from people about how many people he killed, but I never really have seen anyone actually support that assertion.

albo: I'll read the link. Thanks.

Three Crooked Squirrels: On the topic of painless execution, I never understood why the didn't just put them in a closed garage with a car running. I always heard that you just go to sleep then die. You could even allow the inmate to choose his last tunes much like they get to choose their last meal.

Nitrogen asphyxiation.

Nabb1: PurplePimpSaber: sepuku2: PurplePimpSaber: Nnnyess, conservative humor is somewhat of an oxymoron, I suppose.

Old Fart Henry your not.

Somebody's gotta pick up the slack while he's taking a break from TF.

Maybe, but I think we should, out of respect, refrain.

Very well, and I'll be sure to pass the message along when someone uses it to make a snarky right-wing comment. Because we both know you wouldn't make any objections in such a situation.

Skleenar: albo: I'll read the link. Thanks.

OK, read it.

Kinda short on facts and long on opinion.

What did Che really do that was so horrible or so terrific?

Skleenar: the fact he looked like a planet of the apes extra.


I've submitted an invoice to you.

OMG THIS IS PRICELESS!!!

What the hell. I'm gonna post this prematurely. I'm betting, though, this will be a...

Skleenar: Skleenar: albo: I'll read the link. Thanks.

OK, read it.

Kinda short on facts and long on opinion.

What did Che really do that was so horrible or so terrific?

La Cabana prison was one of his low points. Oversaw the execution of many members of the Batista regime and others who were resistant to the Cuban Revolution.

Shame he was so taken with Marx. The man was brilliance personified. If he were more Gandhi than Marx, I firmly believe he'd be viewed today with the same reverence we give MLK.

OK, here's one person's view of Che, that seems to be based on something Che was involved with (from a link on Che's wiki page)

I found out, through our friend Raúl Artiles, that you'll be performing in Miami soon; I find this rather ill-advised, since not too long ago you committed the faux-pas of appearing at the "Oscar Awards" ceremony brandishing, with pride, an enormous crucifix over a tee-shirt with that archaic and stereotyped image of "The Butcher of the Cabaña," the moniker given to the lamentable character known as Ché Guevara by those Cubans who had to suffer his tortures and humiliations in that nefarious prison.

Funny that the many of the same people who can create a disconnect between GWB and responsibility for Abu Ghraib would be so vocal a critic of Che for his association with Cabaña.

In any case, it seems funny that a judge who is against capital punishment would idolize Che, since it does seem he was certainly not a critic of that form of punishment.

One of these Cubans was my cousin Bebo, imprisoned there just for being a Christian. He recounts to me on occasion, always with infinite bitterness, how he could hear, from his cell, in the early hours of dawn, the executions without prior trials or process of law, of the many who died shouting, "Long Live Christ The King!"

Oops.

That last paragraph should have been up in the blockquote.

I do not have a cousin Bebo.

Skleenar: What did Che really do that was so horrible or so terrific?

here's another:
Link (new window)
there's plenty out there

Skleenar: Skleenar: albo: I'll read the link. Thanks.

OK, read it.

Kinda short on facts and long on opinion.

What did Che really do that was so horrible or so terrific?

A bit of Googling pulled this long, but fact-filled/documented article.

Skleenar: I do not have a cousin Bebo.

I can get you one, cheap.

albo: here's another:
Link (new window)
there's plenty out there

In January 1957, as his diary from the Sierra Maestra indicates, Guevara shot Eutimio Guerra because he suspected him of passing on information: "I ended the problem with a .32 caliber pistol, in the right side of his brain.... His belongings were now mine." Later he shot Aristidio, a peasant who expressed the desire to leave whenever the rebels moved on. While he wondered whether this particular victim "was really guilty enough to deserve death," he had no qualms about ordering the death of Echevarría, a brother of one of his comrades, because of unspecified crimes: "He had to pay the price." At other times he would simulate executions without carrying them out, as a method of psychological torture.

Luis Guardia and Pedro Corzo, two researchers in Florida who are working on a documentary about Guevara, have obtained the testimony of Jaime Costa Vázquez, a former commander in the revolutionary army known as "El Catalán," who maintains that many of the executions attributed to Ramiro Valdés, a future interior minister of Cuba, were Guevara's direct responsibility, because Valdés was under his orders in the mountains. "If in doubt, kill him" were Che's instructions. On the eve of victory, according to Costa, Che ordered the execution of a couple dozen people in Santa Clara, in central Cuba, where his column had gone as part of a final assault on the island. Some of them were shot in a hotel, as Marcelo Fernándes-Zayas, another former revolutionary who later became a journalist, has written-adding that among those executed, known as casquitos, were peasants who had joined the army simply to escape unemployment.

That judge is really beginning to look like a tool.

Never was interested enough in Che to do the research. I guess I now trust my instincts better.

Heh, I was not expecting Guevara.

GAT_00: Heh, I was not expecting Guevara.



Nobody expects.....er, nevermind.

Skleenar: GAT_00: Heh, I was not expecting Guevara.



Nobody expects.....er, nevermind.

Yeah, I was trying to think of a way to work that in and couldn't think of a way to do it that wasn't groaningly bad.

Oh crap. What an idiot.

Does he have ANY idea how bad that poster of Che makes him look?

Even the poster of Obama is a bad idea-- I really think judges should be apolitical, or at least appear to be.

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Oh, well. I take some comfort in the fact that for every embarrassing lefty nutball like this guy or Cindy Sheehan there are about 50 embarrassing righty nutballs.

Just check out any political flamewar on Fark to see what I mean.


_{/This nation needs FAR fewer nutballs of any stripe.}

Skleenar: Oops.

That last paragraph should have been up in the blockquote.

I do not have a cousin Bebo.

LOL

Wait till the farking Liters get here...



/Wait...
//Whaaaat?

tallguywithglasseson: LOL

I do, however, have an uncle Bubba.

Does that count?

That's ... unfortunate.

Obama and Che posters on the same wall?

That settles it. He must be a commie.