You can't help the poor, they are poor for a reason.

But, all the christian websites have a 'donate' button. That money goes to the poors.

If Christians didn't waste so much time and money to support the infrastructure necessary for worshiping the gods of ancient nomads they'd have a fark load more money and time to spend helping people.

Sure..don't pay attention to Government, they are all goodness and light. They need to go build some roads or something and get out of the way of Free people. And why should anyone help the poor if the Government is going to do it? Why? What's the motivation? The Government will do it.

It's the government's job to take care of the poor.

Curbstomp Jesus: You can't help the poor, they are poor for a reason.

Totally. When Jesus saw those lepers he told them to pick themselves up by their bootstraps and stop with all the begging. At a safe distance, I might add, since the leprosy can be catchy. He then quickly moved on since he was late for a thousand-talent fundraising dinner for his Messianic campaign.

gilgamesh23: Curbstomp Jesus: You can't help the poor, they are poor for a reason.

Totally. When Jesus saw those lepers he told them to pick themselves up by their bootstraps and stop with all the begging. At a safe distance, I might add, since the leprosy can be catchy. He then quickly moved on since he was late for a thousand-talent fundraising dinner for his Messianic campaign.

Rome's=Rome's, God's=God's. Pick a side, Counselor.

Maybe they could start by stop giving less to the party of pedophiles, philanderers, and money lovers and giving more to somebody they knew in their community that needs help.

The Gospel of Supply Side Jesus (new window)

TheDumbBlonde: It's the government's job to take care of the poor.

Funny..I don't recall that in the Constitution. Can you tell me where it is?

The Christians love to cite these studies that show how they spend more money on charity than non-Christians; but I suspect the numbers would be the other way around if you subtracted all the money that goes into their church's pocket.

I'm poor :(

GaryPDX: TheDumbBlonde: It's the government's job to take care of the poor.

Funny..I don't recall that in the Constitution. Can you tell me where it is?

Oh come on. It's in that part where they, like, wrote it in lemon joice? Seriously. You gotta know how to look for it.

TheCid: The Christians love to cite these studies that show how they spend more money on charity than non-Christians; but I suspect the numbers would be the other way around if you subtracted all the money that goes into their church's pocket.

Do you believe the government has no operating overhead, or is a perfect well oiled machine?

joice = juice.

Doh.

Jesus would come back and wonder who all these infidels were and hang out with the Jews instead.

GaryPDX: TheDumbBlonde: It's the government's job to take care of the poor.

Funny..I don't recall that in the Constitution. Can you tell me where it is?

Smell my sarcasm.

TheDumbBlonde: GaryPDX: TheDumbBlonde: It's the government's job to take care of the poor.

Funny..I don't recall that in the Constitution. Can you tell me where it is?

Smell my sarcasm.

I was playing along..:)

Okay all you crazy evolution freaks. One tasty factoid..the weak DIE.

/grin

GaryPDX: Do you believe the government has no operating overhead, or is a perfect well oiled machine?

Are charities somehow better? Some are very efficient, some aren't at all. It's a matter of implementation. With proper oversight, government can often deliver better than the free market.

GaryPDX: Okay all you crazy evolution freaks. One tasty factoid..the weak DIE.

/grin

and the stupid, let's not forget them.

gilgamesh23: With proper oversight, government can often deliver better than the free market.

Oh brother, that is complete and utter nonsense. Corruption is everywhere, especially in governments. Looks good on paper, total bullshiat in practice.

If only they could afford some sort of building large enough to efficiently spread their word of selflessness, humility, and generosity.

I was unaware that evolutionary theory accounted for artificial concepts such as inheritance of money.

Evolution is about genetics, not financial inheritance.

Someone failed biology.

GaryPDX: Oh brother, that is complete and utter nonsense. Corruption is everywhere, especially in governments. Looks good on paper, total bullshiat in practice.

Plenty of graft in the free market too. How'd that energy deregulation go for California again?

I'm not religious but I've always found it interesting that "Jesus" was the most prolific liberal in history, yet his most hardcore believers tend to be largely conservative. I think there's a paradox there. Or maybe just hypocrisy, I dunno.

gilgamesh23: GaryPDX: Oh brother, that is complete and utter nonsense. Corruption is everywhere, especially in governments. Looks good on paper, total bullshiat in practice.

Plenty of graft in the free market too. How'd that energy deregulation go for California again?

I bet I can name a hundred things and you can tell me why it didn't work because of greedy people. That's exactly my point. There will always be greedy people and a Government is their ideal golden kingdom.

Epsilon: I'm not religious but I've always found it interesting that "Jesus" was the most prolific liberal in history, yet his most hardcore believers tend to be largely conservative. I think there's a paradox there. Or maybe just hypocrisy, I dunno.

2000 years from now, followers of BobMarleyism will likely be regarded as reactionaries.

I'll believe this when I see an Athiests Army soup kitchen operating in the ghetto.

GaryPDX: One tasty factoid..the weak DIE.

True. However you need to remember the poor are usually less educated, some would say stupid. If there is one thing we should all know from reading Fark, it's that the stupid usually end up living longer, moving to Florida and making a name for themselves by doing something that gets them in the news.

Whatthefark: GaryPDX: One tasty factoid..the weak DIE.

True. However you need to remember the poor are usually less educated, some would say stupid. If there is one thing we should all know from reading Fark, it's that the stupid usually end up living longer, moving to Florida and making a name for themselves by doing something that gets them in the news.

lol..yea..that's why we have a tag especially for them..lol.

They do help. Catholic Charities(I'm not even Catholic) helped me with some of my bills when I got in a bad spot about 4 years ago. They didn't go into a ton of questions or anything like the local food stamp office did, and just helped. No prosyletizing or anything like that. But keep lying to yourselves so you can feel good on bashing the Christians. The Jews and Muslims also do a lot for charity, but go ahead and bash them too.

muck4doo: They do help. Catholic Charities(I'm not even Catholic) helped me with some of my bills when I got in a bad spot about 4 years ago. They didn't go into a ton of questions or anything like the local food stamp office did, and just helped. No prosyletizing or anything like that. But keep lying to yourselves so you can feel good on bashing the Christians. The Jews and Muslims also do a lot for charity, but go ahead and bash them too.

Jews and Muslims suck.

Am I doing it right?

muck4doo: They do help. Catholic Charities(I'm not even Catholic) helped me with some of my bills when I got in a bad spot about 4 years ago. They didn't go into a ton of questions or anything like the local food stamp office did, and just helped. No prosyletizing or anything like that. But keep lying to yourselves so you can feel good on bashing the Christians. The Jews and Muslims also do a lot for charity, but go ahead and bash them too.

The Catholics do more worldwide than all socialist experiments ever..combined.

Epsilon: I'm not religious but I've always found it interesting that "Jesus" was the most prolific liberal in history, yet his most hardcore believers tend to be largely conservative. I think there's a paradox there. Or maybe just hypocrisy, I dunno.

Technically, "Christianity" died with Jesus or shortly after. It was never supposed to become something unto itself. Christians are prone to forget Jesus was passionately Jewish. Paulinism and Augustianism is what we have today, other than offshoot denominations such as Mormonism. With the exception of Marxism, it's the most unfortunate and misnamed eponymous movement ever.

If only Marcionism had won instead of the Catholicism, we wouldn't have to deal with the Old Testament.

Tor_Eckman: muck4doo: They do help. Catholic Charities(I'm not even Catholic) helped me with some of my bills when I got in a bad spot about 4 years ago. They didn't go into a ton of questions or anything like the local food stamp office did, and just helped. No prosyletizing or anything like that. But keep lying to yourselves so you can feel good on bashing the Christians. The Jews and Muslims also do a lot for charity, but go ahead and bash them too.

Jews and Muslims suck.

Am I doing it right?

I'm Christian myself, but I will also not tolerate seeing Jews and Muslims bashed as well.

The Mormons do a lot too globally..what do you think they do with all that 10% of their incomes tithing going on.

Evil Per Capita in a society is a constant. The gains made in fighting poverty and racism in the past 50 years have been erased by gains in greed and anomie.

I was watching one of those starving kids on TV with flies on them and I was wondering..why aren't they eating the flies?

/hmm

GaryPDX: muck4doo: They do help. Catholic Charities(I'm not even Catholic) helped me with some of my bills when I got in a bad spot about 4 years ago. They didn't go into a ton of questions or anything like the local food stamp office did, and just helped. No prosyletizing or anything like that. But keep lying to yourselves so you can feel good on bashing the Christians. The Jews and Muslims also do a lot for charity, but go ahead and bash them too.

The Catholics do more worldwide than all socialist experiments ever..combined.

And don't forget the pedophilia!

Right wing rich ass 'christians' kill me.

Those self-serving, hypocritical scum are as far from Jesus Christ as any suicide bombing muslim moron.

If there is indeed a rapture, or even a Heaven and Hell,
a lot of you are going to be VERY disappointed.


/og with dog

Gary, we get it. You don't think government can kneel down and tie its collective shoes. This is almost an article of faith with you. Any facts to the contrary can be explained away.

muck4doo: Tor_Eckman: muck4doo: They do help. Catholic Charities(I'm not even Catholic) helped me with some of my bills when I got in a bad spot about 4 years ago. They didn't go into a ton of questions or anything like the local food stamp office did, and just helped. No prosyletizing or anything like that. But keep lying to yourselves so you can feel good on bashing the Christians. The Jews and Muslims also do a lot for charity, but go ahead and bash them too.

Jews and Muslims suck.

Am I doing it right?

I'm Christian myself, but I will also not tolerate seeing Jews and Muslims bashed as well.

Hey, you asked for it.

For all of you wanting to do some more bashing, if you get into financial trouble sometime in the future, contact your local welfare office, and contact your nearest Catholic charities. See who comes out to help you the fastest, and doesn't go into your life history as to whether you're deserving of help or not.

/You can judge from there on who is more bigoted and less willing to help

stpickrell: Gary, we get it. You don't think government can kneel down and tie its collective shoes. This is almost an article of faith with you. Any facts to the contrary can be explained away.

I just subscribe to the philosophy of the Founders. Not the Bible of Karl.

GaryPDX: gilgamesh23: With proper oversight, government can often deliver better than the free market.

Oh brother, that is complete and utter nonsense. Corruption is everywhere, especially in governments. Looks good on paper, total bullshiat in practice.

The "free market" has turned into a religion. Government defines the rules and boundries of any market. Capitolism is only useful to the end that it solves our problems. In places where it doesn't, there's no reason to continue pursuing "free market" solutions to them. There is no "free market" solution to poverty. I'm astonished that the fark article asserts that libertarians believe solutions to poverty are provided for by capitolism. Libertarianism admits that it just doesn't give a shiat about it.

Whatsleft: The "free market" has turned into a religion. Government defines the rules and boundries of any market. Capitolism is only useful to the end that it solves our problems. In places where it doesn't, there's no reason to continue pursuing "free market" solutions to them. There is no "free market" solution to poverty. I'm astonished that the fark article asserts that libertarians believe solutions to poverty are provided for by capitolism. Libertarianism admits that it just doesn't give a shiat about it.

In the market you can stop greedy activity..as some one said earlier using CA energy as an example, it did end. When the government does it, it takes a revolution to stop it. I prefer free market capitalism.

GaryPDX: muck4doo: They do help. Catholic Charities(I'm not even Catholic) helped me with some of my bills when I got in a bad spot about 4 years ago. They didn't go into a ton of questions or anything like the local food stamp office did, and just helped. No prosyletizing or anything like that. But keep lying to yourselves so you can feel good on bashing the Christians. The Jews and Muslims also do a lot for charity, but go ahead and bash them too.

The Catholics do more worldwide than all socialist experiments ever..combined.

Nevermind, I shouldn't have responded to you, you're clearly nuts.

Whatsleft: Nevermind, I shouldn't have responded to you, you're clearly nuts.

Clearly.

Ayn Rand is the anti-Christ. Christians should spend less time following Rand and more time actually following Christ. (Or better yet Dawkins or Sagan.)