This was to be expected and will likely just generate more public knowledge of the film, helping its box office.

They don't hate John Cusack, they hate Peter Gabriel.

It doesn't take much to outrage either the hardcore right or the hardcore left, but while the outrage of the hardcore left is incredibly silly and juvenile, the outrage of the hardcore right is a bottomless pit of stupidity.

It's not TRUE!

It's satire...

Kome: It doesn't take much to outrage either the hardcore right or the hardcore left, but while the outrage of the hardcore left is incredibly silly and juvenile, the outrage of the hardcore right is a bottomless pit of stupidity.

-addendum:

Furthermore the outrage of the hardcore left often brings on scorn and ridicule while the outrage of the hardcore right often brings on fear and alarmism.

cameroncrazy1984: They don't hate John Cusack, they hate Peter Gabriel.



/Obligatory

scruffy1: Kome: It doesn't take much to outrage either the hardcore right or the hardcore left, but while the outrage of the hardcore left is incredibly silly and juvenile, the outrage of the hardcore right is a bottomless pit of stupidity.

-addendum:

Furthermore the outrage of the hardcore left often brings on scorn and ridicule while the outrage of the hardcore right often brings on fear and alarmism.

I disagree. I think both sides have their fair share of scorn and ridicule worthy outrage as well as the alarmism and fear-mongering. The left has global warming alarmism* and the right keeps screaming, "Terrorists! Terrorists!" The left has PETA and the right has creationists. The left has political correctness and the right has illegal immigrants.**

*I'm not saying I don't accept anthropogenic global warming, as the science is pretty much conclusive about it being a reality, I'm just saying that Al Gore should take a chill pill

**It's not impossible to find people on all sides of the political spectrum who can be associated with each of those topics, but they are primarily associated with one side

Kome: I disagree. I think both sides have their fair share of scorn and ridicule worthy outrage as well as the alarmism and fear-mongering. The left has global warming alarmism* and the right keeps screaming, "Terrorists! Terrorists!" The left has PETA and the right has creationists. The left has political correctness and the right has illegal immigrants.**

*I'm not saying I don't accept anthropogenic global warming, as the science is pretty much conclusive about it being a reality, I'm just saying that Al Gore should take a chill pill

**It's not impossible to find people on all sides of the political spectrum who can be associated with each of those topics, but they are primarily associated with one side

True. I agree on Gore needing to tone it down some. I guess I was referring more to how groups such as PeTA that are on the extreme left are often seen as silly (your mommy is a murderer) while those on the extreme Right such as the NRA are seen as alarmist (the government is out to get our guns and then our rights). But that is a generalization and it is true that the same is true for any side of the spectrum it's all a matter of perception and which side of the coin you are on I suppose.

...while those on the extreme Right such as the NRA are seen as alarmist (the government is out to get our guns and then our rights)

Actually, the NRA is of the opinion that the government is out to get our guns, and that our guns are one of our rights. It's actually a sensible position taken by people who otherwise don't come off as very articulate.

kill anybody who disagrees with you

IT'S WHAT JESUS WOULD HAVE WANTED.


/guns n christians
//only in amerika

Now that's a real shame when folks be throwin' away smearin' a perfectly good white boy like that.

And the latest greenlit post in the politics tab is from ... *shakes Magic 8-Ball* ...The Huffington Post


I was beginning to think that FARK was a subsidiary of Dailykos.

And the argument of the Bush administration is that there's nothing, no function of state, there's no national interest that is not a corporate interest. Everything is to be privatized, everything is to be -- the core function of government is to create the optimal conditions for a feeding frenzy."

Ah yes, the business of America is business. Some very ... influential presidents have believed this.

/another business run into the ground for a perfect record.

Oh NO! Another leftist film that flops like any number of other leftist films released in the past several years and it's the far left wing Huff Post to rescue.

Except it's nothing but the Huff Post, Cusack, and various other liberals standing around bitterly circle jerking each other as usual.

Article:

the right-wing is trying make the film seem to be a total flop, despite the grassroots success that it actually is.

BoxOfficeMojo:

Opening Weekend: $35,336
(2 theaters, $17,668 average)
% of Total Gross: 27.2%
Widest Release: 23 theaters
In Release: 17 days / 2.4 weeks

Twenty three theaters? What a huge fricking success.... *snort*

The Beacon Man: Does anyone think that millions and millions of people will pay money to see another one of these left-wing downers?

You know, I can enjoy Bruce Willis movies (Hudson Hawk is one of my favorite late 80's/early 90's movies) without getting worked up over his politics. Stop being a baby and enjoy Cusack's work.

JQPublic: Not going to bother about the content, but you should really apply a bit of a blur to the text. You're using a propaganda poster that already has a softened effect because it's been sized down. Even if you just use Paint, you can make the text in a separate file, blow it up then resize it back down to give it some blur, THEN drag it over the poster.

What this country really needs is a present day version of The Green Berets. You know, so we could all watch it and feel good about the atrocities we have committed.

We could even exhume the Duke to reprise his role as Colonel Kirby, and we could have Cusack play the role of the cynical reporter who gets his comeuppance.

TFA states that the film is a grassroots success. Has anyone seen it? It's complete garbage. It's such awful, ham handed satire that it should be offensive not only to the right and to the left, but to anyone with a shred of taste.

Descartes: Article:

the right-wing is trying make the film seem to be a total flop, despite the grassroots success that it actually is.

BoxOfficeMojo:

Opening Weekend: $35,336
(2 theaters, $17,668 average)
% of Total Gross: 27.2%
Widest Release: 23 theaters
In Release: 17 days / 2.4 weeks

Twenty three theaters? What a huge fricking success.... *snort*

Actually, that's fairly successful for a limited release indie film that's going to DVD on July 1. In that weekend, it actually got the second highest per-theater revenue, next to Indy.

I should see if it's playing near. I don't see enough indie stuff in this town.

ClemsonChili: TFA states that the film is a grassroots success. Has anyone seen it? It's complete garbage. It's such awful, ham handed satire that it should be offensive not only to the right and to the left, but to anyone with a shred of taste.

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

Bloody William

Liberol: a medicine that makes everything, and I mean EVERYTHING, a liberal affront to righteous patriots. Apply Liberol to your scalp and wait a few minutes for it to reach its suppository phase.

Descartes: Article:

the right-wing is trying make the film seem to be a total flop, despite the grassroots success that it actually is.

BoxOfficeMojo:

Opening Weekend: $35,336
(2 theaters, $17,668 average)
% of Total Gross: 27.2%
Widest Release: 23 theaters
In Release: 17 days / 2.4 weeks

Twenty three theaters? What a huge fricking success.... *snort*

Variety says cumulative Box Office (most recent week) was $82,000. The film's budget was $10 million. One of the biggest bombs in film history.


Bloody William: JQPublic: Not going to bother about the content, but you should really apply a bit of a blur to the text. You're using a propaganda poster that already has a softened effect because it's been sized down. Even if you just use Paint, you can make the text in a separate file, blow it up then resize it back down to give it some blur, THEN drag it over the poster.

Thanks for the tip. I'll try to do better the next time I take a Democratic Party propaganda poster and make it into a Republican Party propaganda poster.

JQPublic: And the latest greenlit post in the politics tab is from ... *shakes Magic 8-Ball* ...The Huffington Post


I was beginning to think that FARK was a subsidiary of Dailykos.

The Beacon Man: Does anyone think that millions and millions of people will pay money to see another one of these left-wing downers?

randomjsa: Oh NO! Another leftist film that flops like any number of other leftist films released in the past several years and it's the far left wing Huff Post to rescue.

Except it's nothing but the Huff Post, Cusack, and various other liberals standing around bitterly circle jerking each other as usual.

Descartes: Article:

the right-wing is trying make the film seem to be a total flop, despite the grassroots success that it actually is.

BoxOfficeMojo:

Opening Weekend: $35,336
(2 theaters, $17,668 average)
% of Total Gross: 27.2%
Widest Release: 23 theaters
In Release: 17 days / 2.4 weeks

Twenty three theaters? What a huge fricking success.... *snort*

The few, the proud, the Bush-worshippers.

Defending their Glorious Leader for nearly 8 years!

JQPublic: Descartes: Article:

the right-wing is trying make the film seem to be a total flop, despite the grassroots success that it actually is.

BoxOfficeMojo:

Opening Weekend: $35,336
(2 theaters, $17,668 average)
% of Total Gross: 27.2%
Widest Release: 23 theaters
In Release: 17 days / 2.4 weeks

Twenty three theaters? What a huge fricking success.... *snort*

Variety says cumulative Box Office (most recent week) was $82,000. The film's budget was $10 million. One of the biggest bombs in film history.


Bloody William: JQPublic: Not going to bother about the content, but you should really apply a bit of a blur to the text. You're using a propaganda poster that already has a softened effect because it's been sized down. Even if you just use Paint, you can make the text in a separate file, blow it up then resize it back down to give it some blur, THEN drag it over the poster.

Thanks for the tip. I'll try to do better the next time I take a Democratic Party propaganda poster and make it into a Republican Party propaganda poster.

Box Office Mojo has it at $130,000 so far, 2.4 weeks in. Like I said, this is an indie movie, and they usually don't make huge bucks. Besides, it's coming out on DVD on July 1 anyway. I'd wait a little longer before judging the movie's success. But biggest bomb in film history? I don't think so.

And actually, those propaganda posters are based on WWII era posters from both Axis and Allied forces. Yes, they were turned into anti-GOP posters. But they were turned into anti-GOP posters with some skill. You really need to work on your technique, otherwise they just don't hit. The secret is making sure the text and photos you drop in to replace the text and pictures already in there have similar attributes as the original work. They can't be sharper, they can't be brighter, and they can't be pixelated. A little bit of blurring and some dodge/burning can work wonders on a Photoshop job.

The film isn't for everyone, but I can tell you that I am introducing as many people as possible to it...

So far everyone that I know who've seen it loved it. It's a bitter satire that goes deliberately over the top at times to make the whole thing watchable.

It's got some great lines in it, some clever points, and some out-and-out stupid laughs too. It's also, quiet interestingly, one of the only films of the type where all sides get skewered. Just about everyone in the film is basically wrong, sometimes stupid, sometimes incredibly moronic, sometimes clever...

Reminds me in no small way of a modern Strangelove - not as good, of course, but in the same sphere.

Oh, and the amount of money it's making in the small amount of theaters actually makes it a little film doing well. It's not a huge budget film at all, so it won't need to have big legs to make money back. DVD should work well for this one.


ClemsonChili: TFA states that the film is a grassroots success. Has anyone seen it? It's complete garbage. It's such awful, ham handed satire that it should be offensive not only to the right and to the left, but to anyone with a shred of taste.

So... it didn't work for you. I thought it was fantastic - and it is *supposed* to be offensive to the right and the left. That's why it works. It's also got a great Pythonesque sense of bad taste that I love.

Sure it's ham-handed in parts, but it is also the only war film lately that even *tries* to do a hard-core satire on what is actually going on with modern war in general, corporate involvement and false ideology. It's also a fantasy set around a decade in the future.

As with a lot of good satire and fantasy, the film uses the slightly futuristic storyline and setting to make good points about now.

Incidentally, it probably helps if you're the kind of person who can laugh at themselves and the world around them. Absurdist satire is like that - if you don't see the lunacy in some of the everyday events around us, then you 'aint going to like this movie.

/Don't listen to people who didn't want to like it, or didn't get it, or are too wrapped up in their own idealogical blinkered judgments that they can't enjoy it. It's fun and the kind of film that we need more of at the moment.

Cause God knows we don't need any more films like Stop Loss.

"Oh, and the amount of money it's making in the small amount of theaters actually makes it a little film doing well. It's not a huge budget film at all, so it won't need to have big legs to make money back. DVD should work well for this one."


/it will win three Oscars, I triple guarentee it.

Can someone post the pic of Gabriel Byrne from Family Guy?

Remove all Republicans: scruffy1: True. I agree on Gore needing to tone it down some.

What are you talking about? Between skyrocketing oil and food prices, I'd say Ted Turner's fears about cannibalism look to be coming true. If a regular business guy like Turner could be so spot on, why doubt Gore's scientific background?

I am not doubting Gore's scientific background I am simply stating that he needs to tone it down, or rather make sure that his message is not perverted or taken out of context by people that overreact either in agreement or disagreement of his argument. Granted he has limited control over that but that's what I was implying. As for Turner I respect the man for his great work especially in regards to buying lots and lots of land and turning it into wildlife preserves but I don't like what CNN has become although I have no idea how much control he has over that anymore. I also don't agree with his cannibal statement which has been repeated over and over since who knows how long since every generation thinks that the following generation will be the last.

Besides I'm sure that if the food and energy situation gets bad enough then enough suicidal cults will off themselves to slightly offset starvation and in the meantime I hear that animal shelters nationwide are a bit overstocked on dogs and cats.

Kome: It doesn't take much to outrage either the hardcore right or the hardcore left, but while the outrage of the hardcore left is incredibly silly and juvenile, the outrage of the hardcore right is a bottomless pit of stupidity.

I still have some very deep seated outrage from when our country made the decision to discuss whether torture was acceptable. I guess I was just being silly and juvenile.

JQPublic: "Oh, and the amount of money it's making in the small amount of theaters actually makes it a little film doing well. It's not a huge budget film at all, so it won't need to have big legs to make money back. DVD should work well for this one."


/it will win three Oscars, I triple guarentee it.

Dude, do you know anything at all about limited release pictures?

anyone else thinks that all Larisa needs is a good man, and a purpose in life, like to provide him with babies and clean the house?

Hey, you guys know Hilary Duff is in this film? Plays some kinda Middle Eastern knockoff of a US pop star? And she sticks a scorpion down her pants and tells John Cusack to go fish? Yah, this movie is in my Netflix queue! =)

Bloody William:

Dude, do you know anything at all about limited release pictures?

FTFY

anyone else thinks that all Larisa needs is a good man, and a purpose in life, like to provide him with babies and clean the house?

Dunno, how's that worked so far for you?

Bloody William: JQPublic: "Oh, and the amount of money it's making in the small amount of theaters actually makes it a little film doing well. It's not a huge budget film at all, so it won't need to have big legs to make money back. DVD should work well for this one."


/it will win three Oscars, I triple guarentee it.

Dude, do you know anything at all about limited release pictures?

Dude, do you know anything at all about a film that cost $10 million to make and has made only about $100k in two weeks?

knobmaker: Bloody William:

Dude, do you know anything at all about limited release pictures?

FTFY

Good one, knobpolisher, good one.

JQPublic: Bloody William: JQPublic: "Oh, and the amount of money it's making in the small amount of theaters actually makes it a little film doing well. It's not a huge budget film at all, so it won't need to have big legs to make money back. DVD should work well for this one."


/it will win three Oscars, I triple guarentee it.

Dude, do you know anything at all about limited release pictures?

Dude, do you know anything at all about a film that cost $10 million to make and has made only about $100k in two weeks?

It's only been out for two and a half weeks and has a DVD release in three weeks. In the long run it might break even or turn a profit, but by no measure is it some massive movie disaster like you're trying to frame it.

The Beacon Man: Does anyone think that millions and millions of people will pay money to see another one of these left-wing downers?

Much as I hate to agree with anything you say, probably not.

This should not be taken as agreement with anything you say. If you said the Sun will rise in the east tomorrow I'd have to say that was bravo sierra and have an astronomer double-check your math.

And actually, a philosopher and a priest, just to cover all the bases.

FTFA: "John Cusack explained his new anti-war comedy (read: the next box office flop) this way: "The ideology behind this war is so radical and it's so destroying the country that I think a somber serious take on it would just add to the sense of depression and inevitable doom that this administration has unleashed on the country."

Got that? Now-- go read "Bush on the Couch (new window)"... (GoogleBooks here (new window).

I just finished it-- holy shiat.

Remove all Republicans: Between skyrocketing oil and food prices, I'd say Ted Turner's fears about cannibalism look to be coming true. If a regular business guy like Turner could be so spot on, why doubt Gore's scientific background?

So... my faith in Al Gore's science should depend on whether or not high gas costs inspire you to start eating people? I bet you're eating people already, just to bolster your argument. I'm calling the cops before gas prices make it too expensive for them to drive out and pick you up.

JQPublic: Bloody William: JQPublic: "Oh, and the amount of money it's making in the small amount of theaters actually makes it a little film doing well. It's not a huge budget film at all, so it won't need to have big legs to make money back. DVD should work well for this one."


/it will win three Oscars, I triple guarentee it.

Dude, do you know anything at all about limited release pictures?

Dude, do you know anything at all about a film that cost $10 million to make and has made only about $100k in two weeks?

$10 million is extraordinarily cheap, especially for a war movie. The average cost of a Hollywood film is over $100 million, including marketing. Freaking Juno cost $6.5 million.

Any body bothered to note " We Are Wining " in Iraq.
Soon there will be a surge tactic again in Afghanistan using troops from Iraq.
Worldwide Terror related violence is down 40 percent and the Iraqi Government has done or is close to getting those pesky 18 benchmarks accomplished.
Another failed war movie that reeks of leftist propaganda is pointless.
A sure sign the left are stuck on stupid.
I always say you want to know the truth , it's 180 degrees from what the left is saying.
Seems to work every time.
Personally I don't care because Greed and corruption on both sides are running neck to neck with stupidity on both sides where it counts. That would be .
The D.C. Ambulance Chasers running the country.
Want to hear something stupid from D.C.
Drilling for oil off SO Cal is banned in Federal Waters offshore where billions of bbl's of oil lie.
But not inside the three mile limit that is inside the states territory.
Over 1,000 Rigs, platforms and well heads were damaged in 2005 by Katrina. No polution resulted!
Why !
In 1972 after the oil spill off the California coast in 1969 that caused the ban on drilling offshore California Congress Mandated Triple safety guards on all offshore well heads to prevent polution.
Don't really matter I guess if YOU DON'T ALLOW THE FARKING DRILLING ANYWAY .

larry00: Any body bothered to note " We Are Wining " in Iraq.
Soon there will be a surge tactic again in Afghanistan using troops from Iraq.
Worldwide Terror related violence is down 40 percent and the Iraqi Government has done or is close to getting those pesky 18 benchmarks accomplished.
Another failed war movie that reeks of leftist propaganda is pointless.
A sure sign the left are stuck on stupid.
I always say you want to know the truth , it's 180 degrees from what the left is saying.
Seems to work every time.
Personally I don't care because Greed and corruption on both sides are running neck to neck with stupidity on both sides where it counts. That would be .
The D.C. Ambulance Chasers running the country.
Want to hear something stupid from D.C.
Drilling for oil off SO Cal is banned in Federal Waters offshore where billions of bbl's of oil lie.
But not inside the three mile limit that is inside the states territory.
Over 1,000 Rigs, platforms and well heads were damaged in 2005 by Katrina. No polution resulted!
Why !
In 1972 after the oil spill off the California coast in 1969 that caused the ban on drilling offshore California Congress Mandated Triple safety guards on all offshore well heads to prevent polution.
Don't really matter I guess if YOU DON'T ALLOW THE FARKING DRILLING ANYWAY .

And it only cost us, like, a couple trillion dollars, a half million Iraqi lives, over 4,000 troops (plus the injured), and 5+ years to finally turn Iraq into a prosperous democracy.

/the Iraq war was a success in the sense that it siphoned money from the Treasury into the pockets of politically connected multinational firms and mercenaries.

And learn
how to type on Fark.
The comment box auto-
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for you.

/douchebag

Wow... I AGREE with the chick who wrote that article... and even I couldn't read through all that drivel.

We all knew this would happen; want to talk about manufactured outrage? Look to this article for that. I wasn't surprised when they called Clerks 2 a flop (it wasn't), and I';m not surprised here, either.

/The people who like that movie aren't gonna care about the reviews anyway.

JQPublic: Good one, knobpolisher, good one.

Hey, I leave the knobpolishing to the Republicans. Isn't that your specialty?

But otherwise, I'm half-devastated by your wit.

The Only Good Moran:
The few, the proud, the Bush-worshippers.

Defending their Glorious Leader for nearly 8 years!

If you'd like to see "moranic" worship, I direct you to the Obama cult that posts here regularly. One of which insists that we cannot judge Obama by who he associates with, who he's married to, his voting record, or his books... No, just "What he says".

Now that's some serious "moranic" worship.

And yes, the film was an abysmal failure. Accept facts, move on.

Maybe I'm remembering incorrectly, but wasn't this film advertised like it was getting a large release? It certainly didn't come across like an indy.

One more thing to chew on: indy movies that have large appeal generally go into wide release.