Human beings have some pointy teeth and some flat grinding teeth. Human beings are omnivorous. Ignoring that to impose a strict and very arguably unnatural diet is just plain stupid.

Why is it OK to hurt plants but not animals? Plants don't even have a chance to escape and the only ones that can fight back are those that have evolved poisons.

Damn hypocritical vegans! And don't tell me plants don't feel pain ^{(^)}. Go eat rocks or something.

/makes popcorn.
//and bacon
///woo!

I like some of the comments:

If meat eaters believe that stuffing their kids with meat and dairy is the only way, then they are welcome to do it. If vegans believe that meat and dairy are unhealthy why would they give that to their offspring? There is nothing scientific about this case.

This is a good effort, but a better troll would be:

If the eaters of innocent, slaughtered animals believe that stuffing their kids with the dead flesh and forced lactation of tortured creatures is the only way, then they are welcome to do it. If vegans believe that meat and dairy are the unholy road to damnation, and must be shunned by any spiritual being with a soul and a mind that empathizes with the suffering of other sentient lifeforms, why would they give that to their beloved children? There is nothing scientific about this case.

The hell?

1. How does anyone even GET rickets anymore? Just go out in the sun.
2. Kids can be vegans if you do it right (new window). Babies can't (they're supposed to nurse), but beyond that it's fine.

/not a vegan

letdogsvote: Human beings have some pointy teeth and some flat grinding teeth. Human beings are omnivorous. Ignoring that to impose a strict and very arguably unnatural diet is just plain stupid.

I'm no vegan, but I'm pretty sure they could have prevented the girl's rickets by supplimenting her diet with multi-vitamins (which is generally reccomended that all vegans/vegitarians should do).

I'm sure there's probably plenty of kids that are raised on vegan diets and do fine. But when you don't have a well-balanced diet, the chance to fark it up is greater.

I try to be respectful of vegetarians and their ilk, but news stories like this make it all but impossible.

/medium-rare so you can still taste the murder
//murder tastes awesome
///especially covered in murder sauce

Humans are supposed to eat meat as well as fruits and veggies. There really isn't anything more to say than that.

Unright: letdogsvote: Human beings have some pointy teeth and some flat grinding teeth. Human beings are omnivorous. Ignoring that to impose a strict and very arguably unnatural diet is just plain stupid.

I'm no vegan, but I'm pretty sure they could have prevented the girl's rickets by supplimenting her diet with multi-vitamins (which is generally reccomended that all vegans/vegitarians should do).

I'm sure there's probably plenty of kids that are raised on vegan diets and do fine. But when you don't have a well-balanced diet, the chance to fark it up is greater.

If you're having to supplement your diet with external vitamin supplements, something is very wrong with your diet.

jake_lex: Unright: letdogsvote: Human beings have some pointy teeth and some flat grinding teeth. Human beings are omnivorous. Ignoring that to impose a strict and very arguably unnatural diet is just plain stupid.

I'm no vegan, but I'm pretty sure they could have prevented the girl's rickets by supplimenting her diet with multi-vitamins (which is generally reccomended that all vegans/vegitarians should do).

I'm sure there's probably plenty of kids that are raised on vegan diets and do fine. But when you don't have a well-balanced diet, the chance to fark it up is greater.

If you're having to supplement your diet with external vitamin supplements, something is very wrong with your diet.

Living with a vegan has taught me one thing.

if you do it right, you never need supplements.

On the flip side, are you saying that anyone who takes any vitamins or supplements are "doing it wrong?"

adamgreeney: Living with a vegan has taught me one thing.

if you do it right, you never need supplements.

except for a little nutritional yeast sprinkled on your food so you get your B12.

Saborlas: I try to be respectful of vegetarians and their ilk, but news stories like this make it all but impossible.

/medium-rare so you can still taste the murder
//murder tastes awesome
///especially covered in murder sauce

Mmm, murder sauce.

Saborlas: I try to be respectful of vegetarians and their ilk, but news stories like this make it all but impossible.

/medium-rare so you can still taste the murder
//murder tastes awesome
///especially covered in murder sauce

In a Sunday meeting.... You just made me lol.... everyone's looking at me.... Pretending I'm taking typed notes... Thanks....

Saborlas: /medium-rare so you can still taste the murder

What's that "medium" shiat? Overcook your meat much?

/bloody as hell for me, thank you
//I like my steak to moo when I cut it

le mew: adamgreeney: Living with a vegan has taught me one thing.

if you do it right, you never need supplements.

except for a little nutritional yeast sprinkled on your food so you get your B12.

Actually i had that on my pasta last night for the first time. Weird, but good. She's trying to slowly converting me. I don't think i'll ever go over to that side totally, but i respect those that do.

Kome: Humans are supposed to eat meat as well as fruits and veggies. There really isn't anything more to say than that.

We're also "supposed to" sleep in caves and die when we are about 30 years old.

Anything else is just plain "unnatural."

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It's possible and even healthy to raise kids vegetarian or vegan-- you just have to know what the hell you're doing.

I think many--BUT NOT ALL-- vegans (like this couple) are actually people with serious eating disorders. They argue health and ethics when in fact they're just covering up for slowly starving themselves for whatever dysfunctional reason.

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I've been an on-again off-again vegetarian for a long time because I do have a very big problem with the horrific, nightmarish way almost all meat animals are treated.

If a typical person treated a dog half as bad as most pigs are treated, that person would be charged with a felony. And pigs are actually more intelligent than dogs.

There's also the fact that most farm raised animals are being fed corn and grains that, in this time of skyrocketing food costs, should be reserved for people.

So, ethically, I have much less problem with free-range raised animals and game meat. I still find it highly distasteful to see a large mammal being killed and slaughtered, but intellectually I can understand how it's OK so long as the animal suffering is minimal.


_{/sticking to fish and chicken right now because, let's face it, they're massively stupid. Heck, they're not even mammals.
//Probably wouldn't turn down some venison.}

le mew: The hell?

1. How does anyone even GET rickets anymore? Just go out in the sun.
2. Kids can be vegans if you do it right (new window). Babies can't (they're supposed to nurse), but beyond that it's fine.

/not a vegan

Rickets used to be very common. That's why we supplement milk with vitamin D, people in the northern latitudes rarely get enough sun exposure to meet their dietary needs. Caring more about fish than the health of your own child is stupid but being dumb enough not to give your child a 1 cent vitamin supplement is criminal. Lock the parents up and give the child to someone with a little bit of sense.

Vegans are stupid.

Riche: It's possible and even healthy to raise kids vegetarian or vegan-- you just have to know what the hell you're doing.

This was the only truly intelligent thing you said in your entire post. Everything else was strange, or not entirely thought through, or just plain wrong. But the above statement was absolutely perfect, especially the end clause.

Riche: Kome: Humans are supposed to eat meat as well as fruits and veggies. There really isn't anything more to say than that.

We're also "supposed to" sleep in caves and die when we are about 30 years old.

Anything else is just plain "unnatural."

============================================

It's possible and even healthy to raise kids vegetarian or vegan-- you just have to know what the hell you're doing.

I think many--BUT NOT ALL-- vegans (like this couple) are actually people with serious eating disorders. They argue health and ethics when in fact they're just covering up for slowly starving themselves for whatever dysfunctional reason.

============================================

I've been an on-again off-again vegetarian for a long time because I do have a very big problem with the horrific, nightmarish way almost all meat animals are treated.

If a typical person treated a dog half as bad as most pigs are treated, that person would be charged with a felony. And pigs are actually more intelligent than dogs.

There's also the fact that most farm raised animals are being fed corn and grains that, in this time of skyrocketing food costs, should be reserved for people.

So, ethically, I have much less problem with free-range raised animals and game meat. I still find it highly distasteful to see a large mammal being killed and slaughtered, but intellectually I can understand how it's OK so long as the animal suffering is minimal.


/sticking to fish and chicken right now because, let's face it, they're massively stupid. Heck, they're not even mammals.
//Probably wouldn't turn down some venison.

Agree with ya for the most part.

/My very limited pork diet comes from hand-fed swine my cousin raises on his small farm.(They get mostly silage and get lots of freedom of movement.)
//Starting to drift into what I've heard referred to as "bug-eyed vegetarianism"(sp).{Health reasons}
///I do hunt and fish. (Ya gotta kill it before ya grill it!)
////Does sound like the parents have some sort of food or dietary disorder. Know lots of families who have been strict vegans for years. (The Moms nursed their kids or used soy-based formula.) The kids are all healthy, not one is overweight.

le mew: 1. How does anyone even GET rickets anymore? Just go out in the sun.

Dudette, it's Scotland.

abb3w: Dudette, it's Scotland.

right, not Antarctica.

The girl is ruined for life, but at least no animals were harmed.

/Crazy vegans

le mew: 1. How does anyone even GET rickets anymore? Just go out in the sun.

Lack of calcium has the same effect on the body as a lack of vitamin D, as far as rickets goes.

That means that, not only did they not give her dairy, but they also didn't give her any of those Soy type milk replacements that are fortified with calium, nor did they give her much spinach or anything else containing calcium.

Or flintstones vitamins.

Just out of curiosity, for the people who keep bringing up vitamin supplements...

How easy is it to be sure that the vitamins in the supplement don't come from any animal products? Are they specifically labeled whether they do or don't? How strenuously to vegans check this?

/genuinely curious

BEST PART?
DARWIN IS PLEASED

/vegan - jsut another religion, filled with "believers"
/fark them all

mamoru: Are they specifically labeled whether they do or don't?

yes

namatad: BEST PART?
DARWIN IS PLEASED

/vegan - jsut another religion, filled with "believers"
/fark them all

Nice to see that you're equal opportunity with your bigotry.

So yeah, those parents F*CKED UP HARD....

but that's because they didn't go about it the right way. These vegan kids (new window) are doing great.

Saborlas: I try to be respectful of vegetarians and their ilk, but news stories like this make it all but impossible.

/medium-rare so you can still taste the murder
//murder tastes awesome
///especially covered in murder sauce

First good laugh of the day, awesome.

/HUZZAH!!

le mew: but that's because they didn't go about it the right way. These vegan kids (new window) are doing great.

Wow, are all vegans ugly? Blech.


All I know is that vegan chicks will never give oral.

i REALLY feel sorry for that kid.

ALSO, DON'T HURT ANIMALS AND DON'T DRIVE CARS.

Vegans are prey animals. The herd would do better to leave this one behind.

Unright: I'm no vegan, but I'm pretty sure they could have prevented the girl's rickets by supplimenting her diet with multi-vitamins (which is generally reccomended that all vegans/vegitarians should do).

If you have to supplement your diet with pills just to avoid disease, it is by definition an unhealthy diet.

Veganism is just dietary hypochondria. It's an expression of mental illness.

I'd say anxiety, depression, with a sprinkling of OCD. With douchetastic overtones.

Summoning Suicidal Writer to the thread... farking coward.

This is necessary.
Life feeds on life feeds on life.

Link (new window)(Pops)

TruBluBaptist:

Go suck a bible, troll.

Allie Fox approves of these parents.

/happy non-meat eater....doing right everyday.
//if we used emotional levels as measure for food or not food...some farkers would have apples in their mouths.

TruBluBaptist: Vegetarians, vegans, whatever you call them, are all wrong. They have an illogical idea, and one which has nothing to do with morality or the bible and everything to do with liberal silliness.

"Then God blessed Noah and his sons, saying to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the earth. The fear and dread of you will fall upon all of the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air, upon every creature that moves along the ground, and upon all the fish of the sea; they are given into your hands. Everything that lives and moves will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, now I give you everything." Genesis 9:1-3

So basically God went all willy wonka on creation? "everything you see here is edible."

What's the vegan position on fungus? Any biologist will tell you that mushrooms are closer to animals than to plants.

For every animal vegans don't eat, I eat two to make up for it.

TruBluBaptist [TotalFark] 2008-06-08 01:41:05 PM
Vegetarians, vegans, whatever you call them, are all wrong. They have an illogical idea, and one which has nothing to do with morality or the bible and everything to do with liberal silliness.



Woah- megatroll?
Vegans and vegetarians are different.


"Then God blessed Noah and his sons, saying to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the earth. The fear and dread of you will fall upon all of the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air, upon every creature that moves along the ground, and upon all the fish of the sea; they are given into your hands. Everything that lives and moves will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, now I give you everything." Genesis 9:1-3

:::cringe::: Quoting the bible here is very counterproductive, as I'm sure you are about to learn.

Aren't Vegans from the Planet Vega??!!!

friggin' hippies. chalk one more death up to liberalism when this one keels over.

DrForrester: Summoning Suicidal Writer to the thread... farking coward.

He sure worked himself up a following tho.

Where the hell does the kid's pediatrician fit in to this story? Did she even get medical care?

I would think that if she were under a doctor's care, the doctor could have given the parents a little direction on how to balance her diet, even if it was a vegan diet.

So would vegans like never swat a fly that was biting them? What if they accidently step on an ant?

Think vegetarians and vegan are less cruel to other living creatures? Think again!
http://www.uncoveror.com/plants.htm