Yay, guitar masturbation!

/not really.

The video should be retitled from "zakk wylde pentatonic guitar lessons" to "omg zakk wylde". Weren't he and Dimebag planning a collaboration?

No it should be titled- Boring pentatonics played with speed picking by a guy who only cares about himself...
or Guitar Masterbation by a redneck

It might be impressive that he can go so fast if it didn't all blend together and sound like shiat.

I like Zakk, he's an accomplished technician but rarely shows his own spark. The man has fire but no soul.

He can find a hook and sell records though, so good for him for making a living. It's really the nicest thing I can say about him.

I personally have no beef with his playing. He is very talented, and is an accomplished musician.
I honestly think that if I were to sit in a room with him, I would not be embarrassed at my chops, however.

I enjoyed what i watched, which was not the entire bit. My buddies have worked with him and regard Zakk as a laid back, heartfelt, in the moment type of guy. I am ignorant when it comes to his body of work. FWIH: ZW shows up ready to roll. His optimistic attitude is always apreciated. He brings enthusiasm and is joy to be around. Wow, hows that for 6 degrees of a$$ worship?!

Sure he's got quick fingers and stuff, but I kinda fell asleep about 10 seconds in.

antihuman: Buckethead

I endorse this simple picture as the best response to any other guitarist/guitar-centric thread.

Yngwei Malmsteen approves.

Here's one of the few that Buckethead pays homage to:

Shawn Lane (new window)

MsterScary: redneck

bwahahahaha Zakk isn't exactly a redneck

Also, it's just a bunch of nonboring sounding excercises to play. You know, play it and look at how things connect together and build from there.

GonzoNihilist: Yngwei Malmsteen approves.

except most of what Zakk is just throwing off the cuff there is a bit beyond Yngwie.

Never heard of him.

I loved the "stay classy" swig at the beginning to start things off. At first, I wondered why the editor couldn't cut that segment out...then I put on my tinfoil hat.

Normally, I'd jump straight into "uber-guitar-critic mode" and make pretentious comments about his playing style. (This goes with the territory of video links with "[insert musician] is the best [insert instrument] player in the world" titles. This saved me the trouble of waiting to watch him actually player before confirming that I hate him and his sycophant handler recording him.

/The zippo .WAV for the segues also added another hint of dive-bar-ashtray-ness to the vid.
//There's nothing of lasting value in Zakk's discography.

Step 1: Watch Zakk Wylde casually shred. Step 2: Pick jaw up off floor. Step 3: Deposit guitar in nearest dumpster Read farkers'complaints in the comment section


FTFY


/Wylde is the greatest ever? Hell no. Wylde is great? Hell yes

I'm a ham-fisted son of a biatch, but at least I got soul.

God I hate 'lesson' videos (that's what this is, right?) where all the guy does is show off.

cabritosaurio: Step 1: Watch Zakk Wylde casually shred. Step 2: Pick jaw up off floor. Step 3: Deposit guitar in nearest dumpster Read farkers'complaints in the comment section


FTFY


/Wylde is the greatest ever? Hell no. Wylde is great? Hell yes
THIS.

As for those who said he has no "soul" (I assume they meant in his playing, as opposed to the whole Crossroads thing), I suggest you spend a little time researching the fella.

FWIW, the solo he does in Ozzys' "No More Tears" is on my personal top 10 of all time, for the sole reason of the way it builds slow, gets intense, then rips your head off.
Pure emotion in that one....and the man is a real decent human being besides.

moparedtn: cabritosaurio: Step 1: Watch Zakk Wylde casually shred. Step 2: Pick jaw up off floor. Step 3: Deposit guitar in nearest dumpster Read farkers'complaints in the comment section


FTFY


/Wylde is the greatest ever? Hell no. Wylde is great? Hell yes
THIS.

As for those who said he has no "soul" (I assume they meant in his playing, as opposed to the whole Crossroads thing), I suggest you spend a little time researching the fella.

FWIW, the solo he does in Ozzys' "No More Tears" is on my personal top 10 of all time, for the sole reason of the way it builds slow, gets intense, then rips your head off.
Pure emotion in that one....and the man is a real decent human being besides.


THIS

At first I didn't pay much attention to Zakk since Randy Rhoads was irreplaceable to me. But as soon as I heard the solo on "No more tears" , I changed my tune. The intro to the solo is just beautiful. I used to be able to pull that solo off, I guess with some practice, I might still be able to....

*dammit, can't play No More tears with guitars tuned in Bb*

antihuman yay for you and your ability to post pictures of a truly amazing guitarist. You may be my new favorite person.

saintwrathchild yu are also cool for digging on the Big B

If this keeps up we may actually end up with a buckethread

/I enjoy zakk and bls, but I do not think he is the best guitarist by any means.

kungfu jesus with a side of lime: If this keeps up we may actually end up with a buckethread

I'll pitch in; man, where are the days?! Praxis, "Animal Behavior".

Can you guys help me out: I've been looking for a guitarist that had an amazing instrumental in the mid-90's, much like Buckethead's "Big Sur Moon", except that the guy almost exclusively played repetitive instrumentals with lots of echo and delay. I think his name was Michael or something. Quite popular among the audience that liked Ozric Tentacles, King Crimson, the Lowlands CD's, Gonzo Circus Magazine and the lot.

flexflint: kungfu jesus with a side of lime: If this keeps up we may actually end up with a buckethread

I'll pitch in; man, where are the days?! Praxis, "Animal Behavior".

Can you guys help me out: I've been looking for a guitarist that had an amazing instrumental in the mid-90's, much like Buckethead's "Big Sur Moon", except that the guy almost exclusively played repetitive instrumentals with lots of echo and delay. I think his name was Michael or something. Quite popular among the audience that liked Ozric Tentacles, King Crimson, the Lowlands CD's, Gonzo Circus Magazine and the lot.

This might sounds stupid, (and probably will), but could it possibly be Michael Angelo Batio? But the way you describe the song isn't really his style, his style is more 10000000 notes per second with a hint of mullet.

cabritosaurio: This might sounds stupid, (and probably will), but could it possibly be Michael Angelo Batio? But the way you describe the song isn't really his style, his style is more 10000000 notes per second with a hint of mullet.

Nope, not him. It sounded like the delay piece Buckethead did, or much like this guy does, but with a much richer sound and more complexity.

flexflint: Can you guys help me out: I've been looking for a guitarist that had an amazing instrumental in the mid-90's, much like Buckethead's "Big Sur Moon", except that the guy almost exclusively played repetitive instrumentals with lots of echo and delay. I think his name was Michael or something. Quite popular among the audience that liked Ozric Tentacles, King Crimson, the Lowlands CD's, Gonzo Circus Magazine and the lot.

Finally found it: Michael Brook's album, "Cobalt Blue", especially number 8. Thanks cabritosaurio!!

kungfu jesus with a side of lime: antihuman yay for you and your ability to post pictures of a truly amazing guitarist. You may be my new favorite person.

saintwrathchild yu are also cool for digging on the Big B

If this keeps up we may actually end up with a buckethread

/I enjoy zakk and bls, but I do not think he is the best guitarist by any means.

Link (Padmasana)

Link (Whitewash)

I can make this a Buckethread?

At any rate, these two songs are influencing me right now. May be a little slower than some of you like, but I find them moving. Enjoy.

His name is Jeffrey Phillip Wiedlandt.

He loses just for picking such a douchey stage name as Zakk Wylde.

FWIW, the solo he does in Ozzys' "No More Tears" is on my personal top 10 of all time, for the sole reason of the way it builds slow, gets intense, then rips your head off.
Pure emotion in that one....and the man is a real decent human being besides.

I could not agree more; well put. More specifically, that awesome bend he does right as things get cranking at 4:43 makes me lose my shiat every time. And for the record, I'm not Zakk or Ozzy fanboy, but that solo is what other rock solos aspire to be.

Incidentally, another solo that evokes emotion like this one can be found in Badland's "Rumblin Train". It's coincidental that the guitarist is Jake E. Lee, another Ozzy guy. My favorite 10 seconds of it are from 4:15 to 4:25. Amazing.

No problem, Flexflint!


PainSorrowLoss: kungfu jesus with a side of lime: antihuman yay for you and your ability to post pictures of a truly amazing guitarist. You may be my new favorite person.

saintwrathchild yu are also cool for digging on the Big B

If this keeps up we may actually end up with a buckethread

/I enjoy zakk and bls, but I do not think he is the best guitarist by any means.

Link (Padmasana)

Link (Whitewash)

I can make this a Buckethread?

At any rate, these two songs are influencing me right now. May be a little slower than some of you like, but I find them moving. Enjoy.

I don't mind Buckethead, he's definitely good. But the lack of Gary Moore love on here is disturbing. Now here's a guy who puts his soul in his instrumental songs. (just keep a microphone away from him, please).

Link (new window)


and another better one "The Prophet":

Link (new window)

PainSorrowLoss: Link (Whitewash)

That and "the interworld and the new innocence", very moving track.

BTW, you guys see this? Added: May 09, 2007; over a 1000 comments, "New, Untitled Song", they're still discussing what it might be it seems.

Stupid Floppy Clownshoes: God I hate 'lesson' videos (that's what this is, right?) where all the guy does is show off.


Yeah, I was wondering about that, too. Was this really from some lesson dvd, or just some guitar porn clips of a guy masturbating? If it was actually a lesson/demonstration type deal, was it cut up to remove any instructional context? At least Richard Lloyd explains what he's showing you...

cabritosaurio: the lack of Gary Moore love on here is disturbing. Now here's a guy who puts his soul in his instrumental songs.

Hmmm, often too "mellow" for me, but his "Still got the blues ..." can definitely move me.
If you like things a bit more on the ... well, let's call it "romantic" side, be sure to check this out: Steve Vai, "For the love of God", puts chills up my spine.

flexflint: cabritosaurio: the lack of Gary Moore love on here is disturbing. Now here's a guy who puts his soul in his instrumental songs.

Hmmm, often too "mellow" for me, but his "Still got the blues ..." can definitely move me.
If you like things a bit more on the ... well, let's call it "romantic" side, be sure to check this out: Steve Vai, "For the love of God", puts chills up my spine.

Hmmm, I like "Tender Surrender as well". I'm usually not too much into mellow stuff, though I do like Eric Johnson's stuff too. I'm actually more of a death metal fan, but I started out on Gary Moore,Rhoads, Slash, Vai, SRV and Satriani. Even though buckethead's been around for a long time before he briefly joinged Guns & Roses, I've only recently been getting deep into his stuff, niceeeeeeeee.

I hung out with Zakk in a bar in Minneapolis one night. I didn't know who he was, but my friend was a fan and was talking to him when we showed up. He was a nice guy.

If that kind of playing makes you throw away your guitar, you shouldn't really be playing in the first place.

GonzoNihilist: Yngwei Malmsteen approves.

Check this shiat.

He has the same talent as someone who can paint by numbers really fast.

Go create something.

That's real talent

Technically proficient but other than that?

meh.


Call me when he can play some Django or Chet or something LIKE
Django or Chet; THEN you might have something worth talking about.

Yeah, all these shredders are impressively skilled, but few of them seem to be able to actually write any interesting music. After a while, all this deedly-deedly sounds the same without some context to define its boundaries.

That being said, I truly wish that I was a better soloist.

Some people are artists, some are technologists.

John Lennon wasn't a master guitarists but he could make it rock.
Zakk is a not really an artist, he's more of a craftsman. He probably sits for hours to perfect his playing.

Although this display is impressive and something I can't do ( because I really don't have any interest in playing like that), there is very little artistry.
If you put this guitar playing on a cd would you listen to it all the time, for years to come? I doubt it.

There are some who can combine the two, but it's rare: Henrix, SRV to name two. Great players and great musicians.

Zakk has been one of my favorite guitarists for a LONG time.

If you doubt his ability to play with feeling, i suggest you check out the Black Label Society album Hangover music.

Can any guitar farkers tell me if it would be better to start learning guitar on a regular 6 string, then switch to bass, or just start by learning bass?

Ultimately i'd like to play them both, but I know the chords are going to be different with 4 strings instead of 6.

Third Day Mark: Can any guitar farkers tell me if it would be better to start learning guitar on a regular 6 string, then switch to bass, or just start by learning bass?

Ultimately i'd like to play them both, but I know the chords are going to be different with 4 strings instead of 6.

If you're going to mostly be playing by yourself, I'd recommend guitar first so you have some more tangible results as you start learning. I picked up bass a few years ago after playing guitar for about 20 years and there are things that are markedly different, but if you learn the fundamentals on guitar it won't be a problem.

The big thing with bass is that it's more about the relationships from string to string - it's all about the intervals.

Welcome to the Machine: Beck has forgotten more about playing than buckethead knows.

dude, that chick is so awesome. what's her name again?

Teleken: Third Day Mark: Can any guitar farkers tell me if it would be better to start learning guitar on a regular 6 string, then switch to bass, or just start by learning bass?

Ultimately i'd like to play them both, but I know the chords are going to be different with 4 strings instead of 6.

If you're going to mostly be playing by yourself, I'd recommend guitar first so you have some more tangible results as you start learning. I picked up bass a few years ago after playing guitar for about 20 years and there are things that are markedly different, but if you learn the fundamentals on guitar it won't be a problem.

The big thing with bass is that it's more about the relationships from string to string - it's all about the intervals.

Thanks for the advice

Third Day Mark: Can any guitar farkers tell me if it would be better to start learning guitar on a regular 6 string, then switch to bass, or just start by learning bass?

Ultimately i'd like to play them both, but I know the chords are going to be different with 4 strings instead of 6.

Go straight to bass. You don't play chords on the bass - you play patterns (I know that it's scales, etc, but it makes the point). If you spend a lot of time on chords on a guitar, not much of that will be applicable to bass. Now if you really want to know the relationship between the two, learn guitar too - after you get pretty good a bass and know what notes, keys, and scales you are playing.

I did the opposite. Learned bass first then guitar. It does give you a different perspective on guitar as Teleken said. You look more for chord shapes and note relationships than straight scales like most new guitarists. Best thing about learning bass first is pure hand strength. If you start with a bass and play for awhile, picking up a guitar makes it feel like a toy.

you buckethead guys crack me up. for the wrong reasons. ron thal has the batshiat crazy guitar playing angle owned. wylde is cool even though he cant write music. i dig the whole drink beer and rock thing, but if you want REAL pentatonic skills check out shawn lane like gulliver said. or even better, john mclaughlin who wylde namechecks in every interview and rightly so.

grim_and_frostbitten death metal thread?!

WhyteRaven74: except most of what Zakk is just throwing off the cuff there is a bit beyond Yngwie.

no its not, they both have based their entire lives on ONE scale. wylde is strictly pentatonic, yngwie is strictly harmonic minor.

mfaby: Call me when he can play some Django or Chet or something LIKE
Django or Chet

chet was great but he was not remotely in the same league as django.

Third Day Mark: Can any guitar farkers tell me if it would be better to start learning guitar on a regular 6 string, then switch to bass, or just start by learning bass?

i played bass for 4 years then switched to guitar. bass players can switch to guitar, but guitar players cant switch to bass.

Welcome to the Machine: I'm sorry. I have tried hard to appreciate Buckethead as much as some of you obviously do, but to me he sounds no better than a distorted Eric Johnson. Repetitious and boring after the first few phrases.

Beck has forgotten more about playing than buckethead knows.

you dont understand music. bucketheads style is not at all similar to EJ who is almost entirely pentatonic like wylde. you fail at listening.

and jeff beck f*cking sucks. hes played some great stuff on record but hes godawful live.

ekdikeo4: dude, that chick is so awesome. what's her name again?

tal wilkenfeld. shes a cockload better than jeff beck will ever be.

Farkomatic: You don't play chords on the bass

every single good bass player would like a word with you.