FTA: If someone raises their voice on one occasion, this can be interpreted as child abuse.

Okay, as long as it covers parents too.

/Rarely have I had a misbehaving student that had attentive, active parents.
//We have no real authority over bratty kids and they know it.

Zero Tolerance is turning round to bite the hands that feed it.
About time.

I still think kids need to be beat.

/I was spanked as a child when I misbehaved
//Thats whats wrong with this generation no respect and no discipline

c.j.: //Thats whats wrong with this generation no respect and no discipline

Yeah, because the Boomers and Gen X were such model citizens.

What the heck, I can remember about a dozen teachers who screamed at students at one point or another. They never did it for no reason, the kids always deserved it (got yelled at a few times).

/wtf mate?

It would be more paperwork, but I bet any teacher would rather teach forty well behaved kids who want to learn, than teach a few bad kids. The bad kids know theachers can't do anything to them, the parents are usually useless, so the bad kids know they will never get punished.

Better to have two sets of schools. One for the good kids, with all the best equipment and learning materials, then a set of warehouses for the bad kids. Offer them lessons, if they don't want to learn, fark them. let them grow up to be bums, and cut out welfare, let them starve.

Hey! Teachers! Leave them kids alone!

Better to have two sets of schools. One for the good kids, with all the best equipment and learning materials, then a set of warehouses for the bad kids. Offer them lessons, if they don't want to learn, fark them. let them grow up to be bums, and cut out welfare, let them starve.

That's a recipe for increasing crime rates if I ever saw one...wait, we already have that...I believe they're called inner city schools...

I had a vice principal scream at me once for walking down a hallway on my way back to class. He claimed that by doing so I was distracting students in the classes that were in session and that I should have gone via the outside. Note that he was screaming this in clear earshot of the classes he claimed I was distracting. The guy was a petty tyrant and an ass to everyone and I was gratified when a few weeks later some kid slugged him right in the face and put him out of commission for a while. The teacher who announced this to us was appalled when we all applauded.

In MY day, teachers handed out punishment like Jolly Ranchers at Halloween.

I was once tagged in the head by a tennis ball thrown by my second grade teacher, just for looking up during a test.

In high school, my algebra teacher belted me in the head with a math book for asking what the assignment was.

When I told my parents, they just said, "You probably deserved it."

Pansy-ass kids these days...

/Off to check the lawn..brb

Did the shout something nearly undecipherable to some laddie behind the bike sheds, eating pudding without eating meat, etc.

/ he was cruisin' for a bruisin'

I graduated from '06 and my freshman year of High School I had a teacher make me put duct tape over my mouth.

Is it too late to sue?

Dear Hip, New Moms:

YOU'RE RAISING YOUR KIDS TO BE PAMPERED, ANNOYING, WHINEY FAILURES WHO WILL GET THE LIVING PISS KICKED OUT OF THEM IN REAL LIFE BY PEOPLE WHO DON'T GIVE A F*CK ABOUT KISSING THEIR ASSES, YOU STUPID, VAIN COWS.

Thank you.

Tacoby Bellisbury: Yeah, because the Boomers and Gen X were such model citizens.

Yeah, that's exactly the problem with these farks we're raising now. The current crop of parents are not suitable to be raising kids.

I got a few paddlings in grammar school by the female
principal. That old woman couldn't swing very hard, but
she could hit the exact same spot every time...

/egged her house on Halloween
//but only once

You can't be serious. Teachers have enough problems trying to keep those little monsters in check as it is. Frankly, I think we need to bring back the old standard...

/The Board of Education

ReverendJasen: Yeah, that's exactly the problem with these farks we're raising now. The current crop of parents are not suitable to be raising kids.

I have a theory that says baby boomers, as a whole, are directly responsible for the majority of problems in the world.

Sure, some are great. But put them together, and the farkwads come out.

grapefruitgal: FTA: If someone raises their voice on one occasion, this can be interpreted as child abuse.

Okay, as long as it covers parents too.

/Rarely have I had a misbehaving student that had attentive, active parents.
//We have no real authority over bratty kids and they know it.

I think about the only thing you can do is segregate these kids into one classroom. Pay some poor soul 1.5x average teacher salary to babysit these brats and just get them through the system so they can get on with becoming sociopaths. Their "parents" sure aren't going to notice.

I can't see why anyone would want to be a teacher today. Unless they want to fark teenage boys, of course, but other than that who would put up with this crap.

Hat's off and glass lifted in honor of good teachers everywhere.

ReverendJasen: Tacoby Bellisbury: Yeah, because the Boomers and Gen X were such model citizens.

Yeah, that's exactly the problem with these farks we're raising now. The current crop of parents are not suitable to be raising kids.

they're quite capable of whining, though

If you are shouting at a child, you have already lost.

Don't forget telling them if they don't do their homework or they won't graduate.

bunner: Dear Hip, New Moms:

YOU'RE RAISING YOUR KIDS TO BE PAMPERED, ANNOYING, WHINEY FAILURES WHO WILL GET THE LIVING PISS KICKED OUT OF THEM IN REAL LIFE BY PEOPLE WHO DON'T GIVE A F*CK ABOUT KISSING THEIR ASSES, YOU STUPID, VAIN COWS.

Thank you.

Amen, I am glad all my friends with kids believe in discipline. But in moderation.

When I was a kid the teachers used to just beat the crap out of us. What was worse was when they'd call home to tell your parents they had to beat the crap out of you that day. Then that night you'd get another beating from your dad.

John Dewey: If you are shouting at a child, you have already lost.

But if you kill a child, everybody wins!

Nick Nostril

The thing is, by the time they reach middle and high school, most of them have been separated already.

puffy999: John Dewey: If you are shouting at a child, you have already lost.

But if you kill a child, everybody wins!

Except for the child.

John Dewey: Except for the child.

That depends on who their parents are.

/I'll change: if you kill a bad child with good parents, everyone wins... if you kill bad parents with a good child, everyone wins

puffy999

Define "bad child"

puffy999: John Dewey: Except for the child.

That depends on who their parents are.

/I'll change: if you kill a bad child with good parents, everyone wins... if you kill bad parents with a good child, everyone wins

What about education and rehabilitation? Sure, they need the desire to change.

Schools are little more than daycare. If your nanny can yell at your kids why can't their teacher.

Shout? Bah. We had teachers that were completely violent. One idiot threw chairs, punched and all sorts of stuff. He quit after being beaten up by one of the students who was angry that a desk hit a couple of innocent bystander girls. He found that out of the 30 kids who saw it, none would be a witness for him.

thelordofcheese

What about education and rehabilitation? Sure, they need the desire to change.

They need to know change is possible for them before anything else.

You guys are so full of shiat. Can't wait till you become parents and your diddums is starting to cry! And then I can't wait until cuddy wuddy is at school and some teacher from the tracts is shouting at pookums just because that teacher doesn't understand how to teach!

Ghastly: When I was a kid the teachers used to just beat the crap out of us. What was worse was when they'd call home to tell your parents they had to beat the crap out of you that day. Then that night you'd get another beating from your dad.

THIS


John Dewey: If you are shouting at a child, you have already lost.

Please, PLEASE tell me you don't have kids, will never have kids, and are not in any job that deals with kids. You are what is wrong with kids.

I got a stool thrown at me once in grade school for talking out of turn. The whole class had been acting up, and whatever the hell lame-ass comment I made just happened to put the teacher over the edge. It shut me up, class went on, and I turned out alright. For the most part.

I hope you guys don't think I'm serious.

I figured since it's apparently a no-no for some people to raise their voices around kids, I'd throw out something completely absurd and nonsensical myself.

If you don't raise your kids right, You end up raising your grandkids.

Unfit parents raising unruly little monsters. Apathy all around. Ah, the joy.

Dubai Vol: John Dewey: If you are shouting at a child, you have already lost.

Please, PLEASE tell me you don't have kids, will never have kids, and are not in any job that deals with kids. You are what is wrong with kids.

You appear to be making a load of assumptions based on one comment. Would you like to ask more questions of me before you cast further aspersions upon my character and ideas?

puffy999
I believe you personally are not serious because you and I have had discussions in other threads in the distant past. That being said, your ideas are held by many others and I will still put them under scrutiny because of it.

/not the idea of killing, but idea that there are "bad" kids and "good" kids

Now, young man give me that knife. Thank you.

John Dewey: Dubai Vol: John Dewey: If you are shouting at a child, you have already lost.

Please, PLEASE tell me you don't have kids, will never have kids, and are not in any job that deals with kids. You are what is wrong with kids.

You appear to be making a load of assumptions based on one comment. Would you like to ask more questions of me before you cast further aspersions upon my character and ideas?

Wow, would anyone really like to talk to someone that condescending?

Tacoby Bellisbury: I have a theory that says baby boomers, as a whole, are directly responsible for the majority of problems in the world.

Isn't it great that pre- and post-Boomer generations can all agree that the Boomers have done everything in their power to fark things up beyond the point of repair?

Daddakamabb

I'm not trying to be condescending. I just don't want assumptions put to my ideas that I believe to be patently false based off of one comment I made.

Re-reading, though, I can see that I might have taken it a bit far with the question.

John Dewey: If you are shouting at a child, you have already lost.

Raising your voice does not equal shouting.

Raising your voice sends a signal to a child that, hey, your continued misbehavior is annoying and reasonable patience with your shenanigans is about to expire.

Raising your voice also makes it possible for the intended audience to actually hear simple requests that a classful of children stop talking.

grapefruitgal: FTA: If someone raises their voice on one occasion, this can be interpreted as child abuse.

Okay, as long as it covers parents too.

/Rarely have I had a misbehaving student that had attentive, active parents.
//We have no real authority over bratty kids and they know it.

Now this is the majority cause of the lack of learning. Don't bother blaming the teacher alone.

John Dewey: Daddakamabb

I'm not trying to be condescending. I just don't want assumptions put to my ideas that I believe to be patently false based off of one comment I made.

Re-reading, though, I can see that I might have taken it a bit far with the question.

If Fark has taught me anything, it's that I can achieve an accurate, in-depth personality analysis and launch a full-blown character attack on someone based off of one comment they make on any given subject.

If you are still teaching after your 5th year, congratulations. The other half of your graduating class has already given up; perhaps in a few years the wacky parents will eventually drive you to leave as well.