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(London Times) Interesting Revealed by genealogists: Maternal ancestors of Barack Obama once owned slaves   (timesonline.co.uk) divider line 137
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HagarTheHorrible [TotalFark] 2008-06-07 01:12:42 PM  
So let him cut a check to himself for reparations and be done with it.

 
keiverarrow [TotalFark] 2008-06-07 01:17:12 PM  
Hmmmm....go back 20 generations and every living person has 1,000,000 ancestors. I'm pretty sure at least one of EVERYONE's ancestors owned a slave at some point. Historically, it's been pretty popular with the ruling classes.

 
Epsilon [TotalFark] 2008-06-07 01:19:17 PM  
keiverarrow: Hmmmm....go back 20 generations and every living person has 1,000,000 ancestors. I'm pretty sure at least one of EVERYONE's ancestors owned a slave at some point. Historically, it's been pretty popular with the ruling classes.

This. And not just whites. Even Africans and Asians have owned slaves. Some still do today.

 
nekom [TotalFark] 2008-06-07 01:20:18 PM  
Irrelevant finding is irrelevant.

 
elysive 2008-06-07 01:21:54 PM  
Why did I read the headline as "gynecologists"??

 
Dances-With-Lobster 2008-06-07 01:28:00 PM  
omg omg omg, Obama's a self-racist!

 
oldebayer [TotalFark] 2008-06-07 01:54:59 PM  
Check out where his daddy came from. I'll bet HIS ancestors owned slaves, as well.

 
flucto [recently expired TotalFark] 2008-06-07 01:56:29 PM  
Well that's it. I'm not voting for him.

 
Edsel 2008-06-07 02:16:09 PM  
In other news, apparently Obama is related to George Washington (Overall).

 
Edsel 2008-06-07 02:18:01 PM  
In all seriousness, that is a pretty poignant fact and shows how far this country has come. And this isn't some random, distant genetic link, it looks like a direct-line ancestor of his mother (great-great-great-great grandfather).

 
nekom [TotalFark] 2008-06-07 02:22:27 PM  
Edsel: In all seriousness, that is a pretty poignant fact and shows how far this country has come. And this isn't some random, distant genetic link, it looks like a direct-line ancestor of his mother (great-great-great-great grandfather).

Maybe in some way, but there aren't too many people in America whose ancestors DIDN'T own slaves. There's really not much that can be made of this.

 
burndtdan 2008-06-07 02:31:59 PM  
i'd wager, without checking, that i have ancestors that owned slaves at some point in the course of human history.

 
burndtdan 2008-06-07 02:32:49 PM  
Edsel: And this isn't some random, distant genetic link, it looks like a direct-line ancestor of his mother (great-great-great-great grandfather).

i think he should track down the descendants of their slaves and go apologize. just cause that would be hilarious.

 
Pocket Ninja [TotalFark] 2008-06-07 02:34:22 PM  
Well, since we're all descended from Adam and Eve, we're all guilty of incestuous relationships, too.

 
Snarfangel [TotalFark] 2008-06-07 02:55:24 PM  
He should take his wallet out of his right pocket and put it in his left. That way he could pretend he paid himself reparations.

 
Unright 2008-06-07 03:12:56 PM  
Revealed by genealogists: Maternal ancestors of Barack Obama once owned slaves

...and that is why we have to elect Barack Obama as our president!

 
McStinky 2008-06-07 03:14:18 PM  
keiverarrow: Hmmmm....go back 20 generations and every living person has 1,000,000 ancestors. I'm pretty sure at least one of EVERYONE's ancestors owned a slave at some point. Historically, it's been pretty popular with the ruling classes.

We all owe reparations to ourselves.

/hey look, a quarter in that old jacket!
//I guess I'm good

 
Brettster808 [TotalFark] 2008-06-07 03:36:18 PM  
I'm sure McCain's family history would never reveal such a thing.

 
Fluff Girl [TotalFark] 2008-06-07 04:29:05 PM  
And in November, Barack is gonna own a white man.

 
jenniferwillow 2008-06-07 04:30:10 PM  
Yeah, and I'm related to Jefferson Davis. Doesn't mean anything though.

/Yes, that Jefferson Davis.
//Lee was cooler.

 
bugenhagen [TotalFark] 2008-06-07 04:31:30 PM  
Fluff Girl: And in November, Barack is gonna own a white man.

I found this quite amusing!

 
jenniferwillow 2008-06-07 04:31:54 PM  
Fluff Girl: And in November, Barack is gonna own a white man.

And Fluffy wins the thread.

 
bugenhagen [TotalFark] 2008-06-07 04:37:23 PM  
keiverarrow: Hmmmm....go back 20 generations and every living person has 1,000,000 ancestors. I'm pretty sure at least one of EVERYONE's ancestors owned a slave at some point. Historically, it's been pretty popular with the ruling classes.

Go back even further and everyone has a black ancestor.

 
Cog [TotalFark] 2008-06-07 04:42:16 PM  
Good job greenlighting a year old story.

 
Kimball_Kinnison 2008-06-07 05:30:32 PM  
Ya know, if we looked far enough back in our genealogy we would be related to everyone. But only relationships once removed, or no later then great great grandparents should matter.

 
shocker66s 2008-06-07 05:31:10 PM  
Great my ancestors used to cut the hearts out of humans and feed it to their stone gods. I guess I should get into human sacrifices.

 
legion_of_doo 2008-06-07 05:35:10 PM  
burndtdan: i think he should track down the descendants of their slaves and go apologize. just cause that would be hilarious.

What if his ancestors owned his other ancestors? That would be like an episode of Battlestar Crylactica.

/dramatic drum music, shaky camera
/oh, right, the Obamessiah's family is from Kenya or something

 
Nurglitch 2008-06-07 05:36:08 PM  
You can tell the Obama's like a little Plantation Owner/Slave Girl role play now and then.

 
Lawnchair 2008-06-07 05:36:42 PM  
Goes to point out his American heritage. Not one of my great-grandparents were born in this country (one grandma was born in Scotland, my other great-grandparents were all immigrants from eastern Slavic Europe). No ancestry in the US until about 100 years ago. Yet Obama's got antebellum Southern ancestors, and most of Michelle's ancestors were surely in the country at the Revolution. But, sadly, so many people would call me "a real American" and question the Obama's.

 
Dubya's_Coke_Dealer 2008-06-07 05:38:14 PM  
Every white person is a descendant of Charlemagne, too. And most American "blacks" have white ancestors.

I don't know what my point was.

 
RoboreR 2008-06-07 05:38:26 PM  
Being Dutch/Scottish, there is a fair chance that one of my ancestors owned slaves. In ancient Mesopotamia.

 
Larry Mahnken [TotalFark] 2008-06-07 05:40:04 PM  
Many American slaves had ancestors that owned slaves. Their fathers.

 
puffy999 [TotalFark] 2008-06-07 05:40:21 PM  
nekom: Maybe in some way, but there aren't too many people in America whose ancestors DIDN'T own slaves.

Direct line ancestors? Surely you jest.

Unless you mean to go way back beyond the founding of America, and are discussing all time. There, I'll give you the win.

/contrary to what some think, most people in America a few centuries ago didn't actually own slaves

 
Tacoby Bellisbury 2008-06-07 05:40:24 PM  
I can't believe you support a candidate who entertains the idea of negotiating reparations. Pathetic!

 
Darwin's Prophet 2008-06-07 05:41:50 PM  
HagarTheHorrible: So let him cut a check to himself for reparations and be done with it.

Since his father's side is actually from Africa and were never slaves here in America, I don't think he qualifies.

 
legion_of_doo 2008-06-07 05:43:46 PM  
Brettster808: I'm sure McCain's family history would never reveal such a thing.

He's Panamanian, silly!
His real name is Juan!

/Panamaniac?

 
Whatsleft 2008-06-07 05:45:09 PM  
WOW that's an old article.

 
JQPublic [TotalFark] 2008-06-07 05:46:26 PM  
b-b-b-but Arnold Schwarzenegger's father....
b-b-b-but Bush's grandfather.....

It's only important if it's a Republican.

 
Flying Jester 2008-06-07 05:46:28 PM  
Barack Obama doesn't care about black people.

/lolwut?

 
RyanWillia 2008-06-07 05:48:09 PM  
Don't mom's typically keep their kids on a short leash?
/What?

 
Nemo's Brother 2008-06-07 05:52:24 PM  
keiverarrow: Hmmmm....go back 20 generations and every living person has 1,000,000 ancestors. I'm pretty sure at least one of EVERYONE's ancestors owned a slave at some point. Historically, it's been pretty popular with the ruling classes.

Go past America's history and you will find many Africans and Middle Easterners owning slave. Essentially everyone one of us has ancestors who were slavers and who were enslaved. That is why this whole reparation argument is ridiculous. Where do you stop? I still want an apology from North Africa for invading my people.

/not really. I'm not a liberal.

 
legion_of_doo 2008-06-07 05:52:43 PM  
The Beacon Man: Since slavery is still practiced in Kenya, Barack Hussein Obama no doubt has living relatives who own human property.

Like racism, slavery only matters if it's White people who do it.

/Because all of you Whiteys are guilty!
/I meant to say "Why'd he"!
/Not a Why'd he

 
bartink 2008-06-07 05:55:28 PM  
JQPublic: b-b-b-but Arnold Schwarzenegger's father....
b-b-b-but Bush's grandfather.....

It's only important if it's a Republican.


So Obama's father or grandfather owned slaves? Hmmmm, interesting.

 
NYZooMan 2008-06-07 05:55:58 PM  
It's okay as they were all non-muslim infidels so enslavement is proper and good and shows great mercy as they werre free to slaughter them.

 
FlyingJ 2008-06-07 05:56:30 PM  
Slaveowner? That sound you heard was Obama losing his die-hard Seattle voting base...
Link (new window)

 
Tacoby Bellisbury 2008-06-07 05:57:01 PM  
bartink: JQPublic: b-b-b-but Arnold Schwarzenegger's father....
b-b-b-but Bush's grandfather.....

It's only important if it's a Republican.

So Obama's father or grandfather owned slaves? Hmmmm, interesting.


Way to

farm1.static.flickr.com


Try pulling your head out of your ass

 
Sharkface217 2008-06-07 05:57:59 PM  
keiverarrow
Hmmmm....go back 20 generations and every living person has 1,000,000 ancestors. I'm pretty sure at least one of EVERYONE's ancestors owned a slave at some point. Historically, it's been pretty popular with the ruling classes.

/thread
//and in the second post, too

 
bartink 2008-06-07 05:58:32 PM  
Tacoby Bellisbury: bartink: JQPublic: b-b-b-but Arnold Schwarzenegger's father....
b-b-b-but Bush's grandfather.....

It's only important if it's a Republican.

So Obama's father or grandfather owned slaves? Hmmmm, interesting.

Way to
Try pulling your head out of your ass


Try understanding my point. Perhaps college would be helpful...or high school?

 
PATS0707 2008-06-07 06:00:27 PM  
LOL!!! Who the hell names a child Barack? Imagine the hospital room and a little boy squeezes out. WE'LL NAME HIM BARACK

 
elmatt 2008-06-07 06:01:59 PM  
A white family in America once owned slaves. Since when was this news?

 
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