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(MSNBC) Dumbass When John McCain is asked how he feels about Bush breaking the law with wiretapping, he says "it's ambiguous." Wrong answer McSame   (firstread.msnbc.msn.com) divider line 150
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quickdraw [TotalFark] 2008-06-07 02:14:08 PM  
No no - he was saying "I'm amphibious"

 
HansensDisease [TotalFark] 2008-06-07 02:32:30 PM  
quickdraw: No no - he was saying "I'm amphibious"

That's silly! He was saying "pancakes are delicious"

 
burndtdan 2008-06-07 02:42:47 PM  
no, he was listening to the cure and commented "they're androgynous"

 
quickdraw [TotalFark] 2008-06-07 02:44:37 PM  
HansensDisease: That's silly! He was saying "pancakes are delicious"

They certainly are. You know if Mccain's handlers were smart they would pick up on this whole Mccain internet meme and he could run on a platform of pancakes for all.

 
panfried [TotalFark] 2008-06-07 02:50:24 PM  
No, he said it was "Damned big of us." As to allowing citizens to have conversations to wiretap in the first place.

/Step in line, citizen!

 
HulkHands [TotalFark] 2008-06-07 02:54:34 PM  
"That's spondifericus!"

media.southparkstudios.com

 
Lionel Mandrake [TotalFark] 2008-06-07 03:15:06 PM  
Well, the President surely has had his hands tied by that pesky Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court. I mean, they only give him three days to retroactively apply for a warrant and only approve a meager - what? - 99.9% of requests(p) without modification?

Clearly the President needs to be able to do whatever the fark he wants whenever the fark he wants to and for whatever farking reason...

/why do so many "conservatives" want a king?

 
McStinky 2008-06-07 03:18:37 PM  
Lionel Mandrake: Well, the President surely has had his hands tied by that pesky Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court. I mean, they only give him three days to retroactively apply for a warrant and only approve a meager - what? - 99.9% of requests(p) without modification?

Clearly the President needs to be able to do whatever the fark he wants whenever the fark he wants to and for whatever farking reason...

/why do so many "conservatives" want a king?



i277.photobucket.com
/obligatory

 
Tabatha Static 2008-06-07 03:19:06 PM  
Typical liberal MSM lies and distortions.

What he actually said was "I'm ambivalent."

i27.photobucket.com

 
wejash [TotalFark] 2008-06-07 03:34:37 PM  
McCain's standard approach:

Do whatever the hell the right wing lobbyists tell him is a good thing.

Eventually get nailed to the flag pole over it.

Make a speech where he "finds Jebus" and admits he was completely wrong and not only opposes the thing he used to endorse but wants to be in the forefront of the reform movement.

Mesmerized media says, "He's a maverick!"

Rinse, repeat.

 
Stinky McButt 2008-06-07 03:39:38 PM  
media.darkparlor.com

 
House of Tards [TotalFark] 2008-06-07 04:08:08 PM  
That's not change we can believe in.

*creepy smile*

 
Weaver95 [TotalFark] 2008-06-07 04:30:38 PM  
"It's ambiguous as to whether the president acted within his authority or not," McCain told reporters at a press conference in the Florida Everglades yesterday.



And that right there is why Obama is gonna kick your ass.

 
GAT_00 [TotalFark] 2008-06-07 05:02:47 PM  
How to fail at running for President of the United States: Say you agree with the most hated and unconstitutional policies of one of the most hated Presidents in US history.

 
robsul82 [TotalFark] 2008-06-07 05:24:17 PM  
Weaver95: "It's ambiguous as to whether the president acted within his authority or not," McCain told reporters at a press conference in the Florida Everglades yesterday.



And that right there is why Obama is gonna kick your ass.


This.

All Obama needs to say after his relaxing weekend o' victory is "meet John McCain, another douchebag who thinks Article II makes the president an elected king."

 
Thomas Jefferson Snodgrass 2008-06-07 05:52:12 PM  
You know, I was a McCain supporter from way, way back. And I liked that he won the Republican nomination, because I thought he was still the maverick of old. But now, with all this stuff about him embracing the religious right, and continuing deficit spending, and being "ambiguous" about warrantless wiretapping, and being so wrong about who the enemies are in the Middle East, (not to mention really too old to be electable) I can't in good conscience vote for him anymore.

I guess I'll be voting Obama (ick!) or staying home. :(

 
Cat With Two Heads 2008-06-07 05:53:19 PM  
I wonder if some of this goose-stepping is McCain's military urge to avoid questioning the Commander during war.

 
Jubeebee 2008-06-07 05:55:16 PM  
The question of whether or not President Bush overstepped his constitutional power by authorizing warrantless checks of Americans' international communications after 9/11 is "ambiguous," McCain said yesterday. But, he added, he hopes not to dwell on the issue.

Of course he doesn't want to dwell on it. Because that'll give time for people to realize what he's actually saying.

He's saying: "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized," does not apply if the President says it doesn't.

And THAT'S not change we can believe in. *awkward smile* Heh heh.

 
Sharkface217 2008-06-07 05:59:16 PM  
Can somebody please tell me where the Pancakes! meme came from?

/thanks

 
icy_one 2008-06-07 06:00:37 PM  
Thomas Jefferson Snodgrass: You know, I was a McCain supporter from way, way back. And I liked that he won the Republican nomination, because I thought he was still the maverick of old. But now, with all this stuff about him embracing the religious right, and continuing deficit spending, and being "ambiguous" about warrantless wiretapping, and being so wrong about who the enemies are in the Middle East, (not to mention really too old to be electable) I can't in good conscience vote for him anymore.

I guess I'll be voting Obama (ick!) or staying home. :(


Wait. Concern trolling for John McCain?

 
Osvcat [TotalFark] 2008-06-07 06:00:58 PM  
"So, there's ambiguity about it," he later added. "Let's move forward."

No, a**hole. That's not the way this country works. If it's ambiguous, or a gray area, promote legislation explaining whether it's right or wrong. You don't put your head down and steam forward under the assumption that it might be legal. I genuinely believe that McCain's a good guy. But if he continues to tread the same path Bush has... I won't be voting for him.

 
Mastervader 2008-06-07 06:02:17 PM  
I can't believe there are still people willing to vote for this man.

Then I remember that this is America, where 25 % of people think W is doing a good job.

 
Tor_Eckman [TotalFark] 2008-06-07 06:02:34 PM  
FTFA:

But about on the matter of the president's past actions in the wake of the 2001 attacks, he urged a look to the future. "I'm not interested in going back," he said.

Yeah, I guess you aren't interested in anything that happened over the last 7 years. I am sure that will work out just fine for you between now until November.

 
peachpicker [TotalFark] 2008-06-07 06:04:15 PM  
Look jokers, he said "It embiggens us". Get it right.

 
Hobodeluxe [TotalFark] 2008-06-07 06:04:21 PM  
so he decides to punt that one? straddle the fence? sidestep it? forgot where he stood this week?

 
DoWhatNowToWhat 2008-06-07 06:06:33 PM  
GAT_00: How to fail at running for President of the United States: Say you agree with the most hated and unconstitutional policies of one of the most hated Presidents in US history.

The turn around and say your policies are completely different. Link (new window)

 
Rascal King 2008-06-07 06:07:19 PM  
wejash: McCain's standard approach:

Do whatever the hell the right wing lobbyists tell him is a good thing.

Eventually get nailed to the flag pole over it.

Make a speech where he "finds Jebus" and admits he was completely wrong and not only opposes the thing he used to endorse but wants to be in the forefront of the reform movement.

Mesmerized media says, "He's a maverick!"

Rinse, repeat.


This

 
InferiousX [recently expired TotalFark] 2008-06-07 06:08:09 PM  
Uhm. No. It's not ambigious. It's very straightforward that Bush violated the law on wiretaps. McCain is trying to promote change while covering his party's ass at the same time. It is a formula which will fail this election.

 
burndtdan 2008-06-07 06:08:53 PM  
actually, he said "what a cunning linguist"

 
culebra 2008-06-07 06:12:13 PM  
Sharkface217

Link (new window)

 
19 2008-06-07 06:12:41 PM  
Uh, it's not ambiguous.

It's evil. It's anathema to the idea of what America is supposed to be--which I'm increasingly convinced was a pretty fairy tale to cram down our throats every single year in public school.

The fact that you find it ambiguous is why I wish you would accidentally wander into a sunbeam and crumble into angry dust.

Though I am pretty impressed you used such a big word. Shame you had to use it for evil.

(I just want to NOT have someone old, white, "connected" and frighteningly VISIBLY not-quite-right in the head who spends more on pool maintenance in a week than I make in a GOOD year as the leader of the world. Because I'm tired of that movie.)


/Please?
//Just for variety?
///Perhaps someone who BELIEVED that fairy tale and wants to make it true, because that would serve you biatches utterly right?
//no, I'm not sure Obama is that someone, but I hope he is
//And I'm SURE McCain is NOT.
//Slashies--not $140 a barrel!

 
culebra 2008-06-07 06:13:54 PM  
House of Tards: That's not change we can believe in.

*creepy smile*


You forgot *nervous, high pitched chuckling*.

 
Thomas Jefferson Snodgrass 2008-06-07 06:14:56 PM  
Mastervader: I can't believe there are still people willing to vote for this man.

He was an honorable man who has been a leader in the senate for a very long time.

 
BKITU [TotalFark] 2008-06-07 06:16:14 PM  
culebra: You forgot *nervous, high pitched chuckling*.

"... my friends...." %^D

 
Selector 2008-06-07 06:17:16 PM  
Thomas Jefferson Snodgrass: Mastervader: I can't believe there are still people willing to vote for this man.

He was an honorable man who has been a leader in the senate for a very long time.



See what I did there??

 
nogames2k4 2008-06-07 06:18:03 PM  
He actually said..."anything Georgie wishes" and then hugged and tongued him.

 
KramericaWallet 2008-06-07 06:18:26 PM  
Tabasha
Ambivalent would've been the right word if it was a matter of how he feels about it. But from the article it's clear that not what he meant (fark headline was misleading):

"It's ambiguous as to whether the president acted within his authority or not," McCain told reporters at a press conference in the Florida Everglades yesterday.

That said, ambiguous is still the wrong word. Maybe what he meant to say was "unclear".

But about on the matter of the president's past actions in the wake of the 2001 attacks, he urged a look to the future. "I'm not interested in going back," he said. "I'm interested in addressing the challenge we face today of trying to everything we can to counter organizations and individuals that want to destroy this country."

"So, there's ambiguity about it," he later added. "Let's move forward."


Here he probably should've said "ambivalence", since it looks like he is saying how he feels about it... Maybe you were referring to this one...

English---worth learning, even if you're American.

 
culebra 2008-06-07 06:23:06 PM  
fark I hope McCain makes it to the general!

 
DoWhatNowToWhat 2008-06-07 06:27:45 PM  
KramericaWallet: Here he probably should've said "ambivalence", since it looks like he is saying how he feels about it... Maybe you were referring to this one...

He probably should have us ambivalence, but then he would have to admit that he doesn't agree with the president. I'm sure Rove advised him to be as general as possible on The Striaght
Talk Express.

FTFA "I'm not interested in going back," he said. "I'm interested in addressing the challenge we face today of trying to everything we can to counter organizations and individuals that want to destroy this country."

Nothing like looking into the future and providing retroactive immunity.

 
Mastervader 2008-06-07 06:28:18 PM  
Thomas Jefferson Snodgrass: Mastervader: I can't believe there are still people willing to vote for this man.

He was an honorable man who has been a leader in the senate for a very long time.


Yea, McCain of 2000 was an honorable, honest moderate.

McCain of 2008 is a senile warmonger who can't even remember how many troops are in Iraq.

Eight years have corrupted him, making him a partisan hack and Bush lapdog.

 
The First 2008-06-07 06:31:17 PM  
Haha, typical Republican answer. Now ask him how we feels about Obama being against a GI bill (a bill which McBush didn't even bother to vote on)...

 
The First 2008-06-07 06:33:59 PM  
FTFA: But about on the matter of the president's past actions in the wake of the 2001 attacks, he urged a look to the future. "I'm not interested in going back," he said. "I'm interested in addressing the challenge we face today of trying to everything we can to counter organizations and individuals that want to destroy this country."

WTF does that mean?? If you don't fix yesterday's mistakes how do you expect to address tomorrow's challenges?

 
Raiden333 [TotalFark] 2008-06-07 06:36:23 PM  
Wonder what the over/under is on seeing "independants" like GaryPDX and Nabb1 weigh in their opinions on this...

 
Mastervader 2008-06-07 06:36:43 PM  
The First: FTFA: But about on the matter of the president's past actions in the wake of the 2001 attacks, he urged a look to the future. "I'm not interested in going back," he said. "I'm interested in addressing the challenge we face today of trying to everything we can to counter organizations and individuals that want to destroy this country."

WTF does that mean?? If you don't fix yesterday's mistakes how do you expect to address tomorrow's challenges?


He means addressing whether he's going to Waffle House or Ihop tomorrow for pancakes.

/PANCAKES!!!11!

 
KeatingFive 2008-06-07 06:37:52 PM  
Mastervader: I can't believe there are still people willing to vote for this man.

Then I remember that this is America, where 25 % of people think W is doing a good job.


I know LOTS of people who are voting McCain. They have a few things in common: Racist and stupid.

Now, I want you to know that seriously, I would have said that about them if Obama was named John Smith and was an irridescent Irish white.

 
rburp 2008-06-07 06:38:11 PM  
Anybody know when the first debate between these two will be? I will be sure to catch it so I can see McCain get hammered over statements like this XD.

 
Zelmo Swift 2008-06-07 06:40:02 PM  
The "where did the pancakes meme come from" question is quickly becoming a meme of its own.

It's from an old Onion piece or so I hear.

 
LurvMachine 2008-06-07 06:42:03 PM  
He's a good man.
And an actual war veteran.
He knows the importance of standing by your commander.

If you do any less,
Failure is inevitable.

/God bless him.

 
testaclese [TotalFark] 2008-06-07 06:44:00 PM  
I almost want him to win in Nov so that we can completely fall apart as a country, be plunged into Depression (mental, economical) and there won't be any (rational) way the NeoCons will be able to blame it on the Dems. Because you *know* that if/when Obama wins, and can't make the U.S. a Garden of Eden in 4 years, they'll be saying it's all his fault.

/I'm sure he's a nice guy deep down, but can McCain just drop out of the race and endorse Obama too?

 
Thomas Jefferson Snodgrass 2008-06-07 06:44:01 PM  
LurvMachine: He's a good man.
And an actual war veteran.
He knows the importance of standing by your commander.

If you do any less,
Failure is inevitable.

/God bless him.


True, but I'm still not voting for him anymore. I can't do it.

 
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