I'm going to double major in Creation Science and Holocaust Denying. Possibly minor in Modern Geocentricism.

Capitalizing "Nonsense" gives way too much credit to the intelligent design nonsense...

Approves.

All of the science classes I took were nonsense. By nonsense I mean bored me to tears.

Proof of evolutionion has been found!



They are calling it Crocodylus Bevetus

/God Wills It!

State Sen. Bill Hardiman (R., Grand Rapids)

fark, that's where I went to college

and State Rep. John Moolenaar (R., Midland)

and double fark, that's where I grew up!

god damn Christian Reformed Church Dutch ignorant shiatheads.

And people are already penciling in Michigan for Obama. Hmmm?

You know what? Let them teach intelligent design. Let a bunch of counties decide to do this, and then let the NCACS run their accreditation through the paper shredder. When they find out their precious little snowflakes can't get into college because they wanted junk science taught, it will serve them right.

Dirtball: god damn Christian Reformed Church Dutch ignorant shiatheads.


That may be the funniest thing I've read all day.

UNC_Samurai: You know what? Let them teach intelligent design. Let a bunch of counties decide to do this, and then let the NCACS run their accreditation through the paper shredder. When they find out their precious little snowflakes can't get into college because they wanted junk science taught, it will serve them right.


Please add me to your mailing list, sir.

UNC_Samurai: You know what? Let them teach intelligent design. Let a bunch of counties decide to do this, and then let the NCACS run their accreditation through the paper shredder. When they find out their precious little snowflakes can't get into college because they wanted junk science taught, it will serve them right.

This is the only acceptable reason for teaching intelligent design in schools.

lunchinlewis: And people are already penciling in Michigan for Obama. Hmmm?

Huh?

UNC_Samurai: You know what? Let them teach intelligent design. Let a bunch of counties decide to do this, and then let the NCACS run their accreditation through the paper shredder. When they find out their precious little snowflakes can't get into college because they wanted junk science taught, it will serve them right.

Wouldn't this just be punishing the sons for the sins of the father?

Dirtball: god damn Christian Reformed Church Dutch ignorant shiatheads.

Aren't you Dutch?

UNC_Samurai: You know what? Let them teach intelligent design. Let a bunch of counties decide to do this, and then let the NCACS run their accreditation through the paper shredder. When they find out their precious little snowflakes can't get into college because they wanted junk science taught, it will serve them right.

The only problem with this theory is that the NCACS would probably cave to political pressure.

BlueMustangGrrrl: Dirtball: god damn Christian Reformed Church Dutch ignorant shiatheads.

Aren't you Dutch?

I know my people's, and I know both these Reps. They are just pandering to the CRC and RCA churches in West MI and Central MI, their districts, and both of them can take a leap.

Moolenarr better watch what he says, his district is the world headquarters of Dow Chemical, a company that wouldn't exist if it weren't for proper scientific theory.

sigdiamond2000: lunchinlewis: And people are already penciling in Michigan for Obama. Hmmm?

Huh?

Thread from a few days ago Link (new window)

Two points:

1. Creationism isn't scientific. It doesn't even need to be. God being real, won't be bruised by scientific study.
2. Evolution is science. That doesn't mean I have to accept every aspect of it. Science isn't perfect. Just ask my cholesterol level. Trans-fat my ass...

lunchinlewis: And people are already penciling in Michigan for Obama. Hmmm?

it doesn't take much to propose something like that. Just a congressman from an area that supports the. Which is exactly what you get from Bill Hardiman and West Michigan.

Michigan really ought to be divided into two sections. Either north and south or east and west. If Michigan were as borderline red as you seem to think, DeVos would have beaten Granholm in '06.

lunchinlewis: Thread from a few days ago Link (new window)

I'm not trying to be obtuse, but I'm still not following you.

sigdiamond2000: lunchinlewis: Thread from a few days ago Link (new window)

I'm not trying to be obtuse, but I'm still not following you.

there was a debate in that thread as to which non-traditional states were in play for both sides. Michigan was assumed to be going Red by the linked author. A few of us Michiganders disputed that notion.

Tax the damn Churches, Mosques, and Temples.

/... intolerant stupid farking morons. If you want to prove you're as smart as a bag of hammers, I'll no longer stand in your way.

EvilEgg: The only problem with this theory hypothesis is that the NCACS would probably cave to political pressure.

FTFY. =)

UNC_Samurai When they find out their precious little snowflakes can't get into college because they wanted junk science taught, it will serve them right.

This. THIS. A hundred times this.

KaponoFor3

Wouldn't this just be punishing the sons for the sins of the father?

Yes it would. Whether that is wrong, or just punishment for the rotting limbs of the human genetic tree, I leave as an exercise for those of you that still pretend morality means anything.

McStinky: 1. Creationism isn't scientific.
2. Evolution is science.

Ah, but what about this "Intelligent Design" they're trying to push under the cover of "Strengths and Weaknesses"?

Oh, and for good measure:

baorao: there was a debate in that thread as to which non-traditional states were in play for both sides. Michigan was assumed to be going Red by the linked author. A few of us Michiganders disputed that notion.

Gotcha.

What exactly is it these people expect will be accomplished with the introduction of intelligent design/creationism in science classes? Have any of them reasoned it out that far? Seriously. Let's assume that science classes are forced to teach intelligent design. Then what? What's the benefit?

Doctor Funkenstein: What exactly is it these people expect will be accomplished with the introduction of intelligent design/creationism in science classes? Have any of them reasoned it out that far? Seriously. Let's assume that science classes are forced to teach intelligent design. Then what? What's the benefit?

Then we will have insightful "science" papers such as this:

The book of Genesis provides an outlook on the way that dinosaurs lived. In Genesis 1:30, God says, "I give every green plant for food" (Youth Walk Devotional Bible). This verse implies that every living organism was a herbivore. Originally, no animal was killed and eaten by man or other animals.

Paul Taylor disagrees with a perspective many humans have concerning the dinosaurs. They "were certainly not vicious or troublesome" ("Dinosaurs: Before..." Internet). Because all living organisms ate plants, dinosaurs did not go around tearing off the arms and legs of animals for food.

God also says that everything was "very good" after each day something new was created (Youth Walk Devotional Bible Genesis 1). This verse implies that humans and dinosaurs co-existed. Most everyone will agree that death is bad. If dinosaurs died before humans were created, sin would have entered the world. Also, dinosaurs and man were created on the same day.

God plainly says after every day that everything was "very good." Death is therefore sin, so the dinosaurs could not have died before the existence of humans (Liebert Interview).

This explanation supports the fact that dinosaurs were among those animals taken on board the ark. So, as Ken Ham plainly says, "Dinosaurs did not live millions of years ago; they did live beside people; they did go on Noah's ark; they are mentioned in the Bible; they did live after the Flood" ("Dinosaurmania..." Internet).

No longer do scientists have to research this controversial issue; it is already written down in the book of Genesis with the story of the Flood.i>
Link (new window)

Before we all start labeling Michigan as Northern Florida, it does sound like this bill is the product of a couple of nutty state reps from fundy-leaning districts. It's a long way from actually getting through the state Congress.

Jubeebee: Before we all start labeling Michigan as Northern Florida, it does sound like this bill is the product of a couple of nutty state reps from fundy-leaning districts. It's a long way from actually getting through the state Congress.

I live in West Michigan, just outside Hardiman's district. North Florida is not too far off. Thankfully this bill has little chance of passing, as you and TFA stated.

Doctor Funkenstein: What exactly is it these people expect will be accomplished with the introduction of intelligent design/creationism in science classes? Have any of them reasoned it out that far?

It will bring THIS GREAT NATION back to the path of HIS true Righteousness, and thus will the LORD restore the blessings of peace, prosperity, undisputed nuclear superiority, and an abundant market for American-built trucks and SUVs.

...using the word "reason" rather loosely.

CDP: Then we will have insightful "science" papers such as this:

Oh, man. Wow. The guy in your link is very...sciencey. Check out the "Getting All Those Animals on Noah's Ark" piece. The author even provides us with a helpful chart, borrowed from another academic juggernaut in the field, to drive his point home.


John Woodmorappe has done some excellent work in a technical book titled "Noah's Ark; A Feasibility Study" that explains this issue. Here is a table from his book that itemizes the animals that would go on the Ark.


Mammals 7,428
Birds 4,602
Reptiles 3,724
Total 15,754
Animals in Ark 31,508
Arks Capacity 125,280

I declare that this tanscends the technical, and traverses into the technoriffic. A techtacular display of Jesulistic technitude!

EvilEgg: UNC_Samurai: You know what? Let them teach intelligent design. Let a bunch of counties decide to do this, and then let the NCACS run their accreditation through the paper shredder. When they find out their precious little snowflakes can't get into college because they wanted junk science taught, it will serve them right.

The only problem with this theory is that the NCACS would probably cave to political pressure.

The trustees for accreditation boards are fairly numerous and spread out over several states, and school and university levels. If NCACS is anything like the one in the South (SACA), they don't pull punches. A school system in the Atlanta area is getting run through the ringer (for different reasons) right now.

Doctor Funkenstein: I declare that this tanscends the technical, and traverses into the technoriffic. A techtacular display of Jesulistic technitude!

you're just pissed that you can't prove him wrong

Jubeebee: Before we all start labeling Michigan as Northern Florida, it does sound like this bill is the product of a couple of nutty state reps from fundy-leaning districts. It's a long way from actually getting through the state Congress.

Even if it is just one fundy nut case, anti-rational twits in power need to be smacked down without mercy or hesitation. And grouping his entire state in with him is a pretty effective way of shaming them into action.

Doctor Funkenstein: CDP: Then we will have insightful "science" papers such as this:

Oh, man. Wow. The guy in your link is very...sciencey. Check out the "Getting All Those Animals on Noah's Ark" piece. The author even provides us with a helpful chart, borrowed from another academic juggernaut in the field, to drive his point home.


John Woodmorappe has done some excellent work in a technical book titled "Noah's Ark; A Feasibility Study" that explains this issue. Here is a table from his book that itemizes the animals that would go on the Ark.


Mammals 7,428
Birds 4,602
Reptiles 3,724
Total 15,754
Animals in Ark 31,508
Arks Capacity 125,280

I declare that this tanscends the technical, and traverses into the technoriffic. A techtacular display of Jesulistic technitude!

If there's ever a reason to say LOL WUT, that chart is it.

LOL WUT

Doctor Funkenstein: CDP: Then we will have insightful "science" papers such as this:

Oh, man. Wow. The guy in your link is very...sciencey. Check out the "Getting All Those Animals on Noah's Ark" piece. The author even provides us with a helpful chart, borrowed from another academic juggernaut in the field, to drive his point home.


John Woodmorappe has done some excellent work in a technical book titled "Noah's Ark; A Feasibility Study" that explains this issue. Here is a table from his book that itemizes the animals that would go on the Ark.


Mammals 7,428
Birds 4,602
Reptiles 3,724
Total 15,754
Animals in Ark 31,508
Arks Capacity 125,280

I declare that this tanscends the technical, and traverses into the technoriffic. A techtacular display of Jesulistic technitude!

Then you will just love this one

To summarize briefly: Dinosaurs were made the sixth day with the rest of the animals.

Noah took them on the ark (probably young ones). They have always lived with man. After the flood many died from the climate changes and from mans hunting.

They were called dragons for many centuries. (The word dinosaur was just invented in 1841) A few small dinosaurs may still be alive today in remote parts of the world.

There have been over 20,000 reported sightings of dinosaur like creatures in this century. Link (new window)

CDP: Then you will just love this one

To summarize briefly: Dinosaurs were made the sixth day with the rest of the animals.

If there was a God... then being that dumb would hurt.

CDP: There have been over 20,000 reported sightings of dinosaur like creatures in this century.

i saw one in orlando just last year

This is one of my favorites:

The authority of the Bible should never be compromised as mankind's "scientific" proposals. One little previously unknown fact, or one change in a starting assumption, can drastically alter the whole picture so that what was "fact" is no longer so.

This is worth remembering when dealing with those other areas of difficulty which, despite the substantial evidence for Genesis creation, still remain.

Only God possesses infinite knowledge. By basing our scientific research on the assumption that His Word is true (instead of the assumption that it is wrong or irrelevant) our scientific theories are much more likely, in the long run, to come to accurately represent reality.Link (new window)

So this is what it looks like when intelligence and common sense take a back seat to belief....

CDP: Only God possesses infinite knowledge. By basing our scientific research on the assumption that His Word is true (instead of the assumption that it is wrong or irrelevant) our scientific theories are much more likely, in the long run, to come to accurately represent reality.Link (new window)


Oh Lord, bless me with your circular logic, grant unto me the ability to answer life's questions by starting with the answer and only then trying to make a question fit it.

Trivia Jockey: Oh Lord, bless me with your circular logic, grant unto me the ability to answer life's questions by starting with the answer and only then trying to make a question fit it.


what a great idea!

How else can you justify sending high-tech jobs to cheaper labor markets if you don't keep our kids so friggin' dumb?

Looks like my home state is trying to edge out India and China for a large unskilled and uneducated labor force.

Truly a bold move.