"...support the ticket, whether Clinton is on it or not."

I hope we all do. Enough with the GOP already.

Obama's support has grown in Hollywood throughout the campaign (recent numbers showed him exceeding Clinton in dollars raised, albeit by a slim margin), and Democratic Hollywood plans to support the ticket, whether Clinton is on it or not. The days of wooing McCain because they saw him as an independent maverick are over.

Whatever. As if liberal Hollywood was going to back the Republican candidate.

This can only hurt Obama even more than he is already hurt. Liberal Hollywood values do not reflect the values of Middle America. Liberal Hollywood is seen as elitist and pontificating and he has nothing to gain by voluntarily associating with Hollywood stars.

For some reason, these rules don't apply to Hollywood actors that are Republicans. The patron saint of the Republican Party is a former B-list actor. It's a double standard.

Suicidal Writer: Whatever. As if liberal Hollywood was going to back the Republican candidate.

If Ahhnold could run I bet they'd back him. OTOH, many Repubs considering him a RINO.

Boogity boogity boo! Hollywood liberals are coming to turn your sons gay and surrender your daughters to Muslim terrorists.

Can subby come up with a lame wannabe trolltastic headline full of FAIL?

Yes, he can.

Suicidal Writer: Whatever. As if liberal Hollywood was going to back the Republican candidate.

Is it the fault of liberals that many Republicans are backwards, cowardly and willfully ignorant? Or is "Hollywood" unfair in not supporting gay-hating, fear-mongering, bigoted, war-obsessed lunatics?

Which is it?

Me, I think McCain's a decent fellow and a genuine America-loving hero of the best sense. I think he wants the best for the country, but the positions he takes (or is forced to take, to placate the GOP's base) do not reflect my worldview as much as Obama's do.

Would you consider that a failing of mine, too?

haha

So like, Hollywood is gonna have a special effect on Obama's campaign?

Suicidal Writer: This can only hurt Obama even more than he is already hurt. Liberal Hollywood values do not reflect the values of Middle America. Liberal Hollywood is seen as elitist and pontificating and he has nothing to gain by voluntarily associating with Hollywood stars.

Zombie Jack Kennedy could dig himself out of his grave, lurch to a podium, and empatically endorse Obama - as emphatically as a zombie can muster, at least - and you'd find a reason why it's a setback for Obama.

"Middle America isn't going to stand for the corpse of a philandering Presidential Martyr telling them who to vote for."

John McCain or Barak Obama... it doesn't matter in the end who they fark at night, only if they can balance the budget and stop the downward economical spiral the country is locked in.

Both guys realize this... and both of these guys are closer to the middle than the wings anyway. Just as a hardcore republican can't be elected, a pussy liberal can't either. In the end you need someone to clean up the government and fix the economy.

I'm pretty sure McCain has the know-how to do that. I'm not sure Obama does. Sure he's the easy and safe choice but in the end, I'm not convinced he's the right choice.

Liberal policies are not going to save the country... tax increases and a slowdown on government spending will.

/Yeah I'm from Canada
//We have a vested interest in your election
///If I could vote, I'd vote for McCain.
////Centrist.

Tr0mBoNe: If I could vote, I'd vote for McCain.

Really? You would vote for a man who is unclear on the concept about preventing HIV through condoms?^

My apologies to those of you who have seen this already.

Reporter: "Should U.S. taxpayer money go to places like Africa to fund contraception to prevent AIDS?"

Mr. McCain: "Well I think it's a combination. The guy I really respect on this is Dr. Coburn. He believes - and I was just reading the thing he wrote- that you should do what you can to encourage abstinence where there is going to be sexual activity. Where that doesn't succeed, than he thinks that we should employ contraceptives as well. But I agree with him that the first priority is on abstinence. I look to people like Dr. Coburn. I'm not very wise on it."

(Mr. McCain turns to take a question on Iraq, but a moment later looks back to the reporter who asked him about AIDS.)

Mr. McCain: "I haven't thought about it. Before I give you an answer, let me think about. Let me think about it a little bit because I never got a question about it before. I don't know if I would use taxpayers' money for it."

Q: "What about grants for sex education in the United States? Should they include instructions about using contraceptives? Or should it be Bush's policy, which is just abstinence?"

Mr. McCain: (Long pause) "Ahhh. I think I support the president's policy."

Q: "So no contraception, no counseling on contraception. Just abstinence. Do you think contraceptives help stop the spread of HIV?"

Mr. McCain: (Long pause) "You've stumped me."

Q: "I mean, I think you'd probably agree it probably does help stop it?"

Mr. McCain: (Laughs) "Are we on the Straight Talk express? I'm not informed enough on it. Let me find out. You know, I'm sure I've taken a position on it on the past. I have to find out what my position was. Brian, would you find out what my position is on contraception - I'm sure I'm opposed to government spending on it, I'm sure I support the president's policies on it."

Q: "But you would agree that condoms do stop the spread of sexually transmitted diseases. Would you say: 'No, we're not going to distribute them,' knowing that?"

Mr. McCain: (Twelve-second pause) "Get me Coburn's thing, ask Weaver to get me Coburn's paper that he just gave me in the last couple of days. I've never gotten into these issues before."

This went on for a few more moments until a reporter from the Chicago Tribune broke in and asked Mr. McCain about the weight of a pig that he saw at the Iowa State Fair last year.

GWShenlong05: Suicidal Writer: This can only hurt Obama even more than he is already hurt. Liberal Hollywood values do not reflect the values of Middle America. Liberal Hollywood is seen as elitist and pontificating and he has nothing to gain by voluntarily associating with Hollywood stars.

Zombie Jack Kennedy could dig himself out of his grave, lurch to a podium, and empatically endorse Obama - as emphatically as a zombie can muster, at least - and you'd find a reason why it's a setback for Obama.


Or Obama could unify The Democrat Party and stop the trend of WWCV's going for the Republican candidate. That'd work in his favor.

GWShenlong05: Zombie Jack Kennedy could dig himself out of his grave, lurch to a podium, and empatically endorse Obama - as emphatically as a zombie can muster, at least - and you'd find a reason why it's a setback for Obama.

If he then goes on a brain-feasting rampage on live TV, I can see how that might be a net negative for Obama.

quickdraw:

That was quick. But I'm sure you could find equally retarded things said by anyone to make them look insane. I know a politician will say whatever it takes to keep that fan base that thinks Bush isn't terrible and (more importantly) will vote for him in November.

People are still going to vote republican. A woman or a black man is going to inspire a lot of (hardly) hidden prejudice in America. What it all comes down to is a lot of social issues that aren't going to be addressed, no matter who is in office. Whoever gets elected has one heck of a bill to deal with not to mention two wars and a terrible international image. Actions speak louder than words but debt screams really, really loudly.

Unless you want China to keep lending you guys money so your interest rates stay low and your economy keeps moving. Because if it weren't for them, you'd be in a depression.

Niven's Law #16: There is no cause so right you cannot find a fool following it.

Boojum2k: Niven's Law #16: There is no cause so right you cannot find a fool following it.

Actually, all of the causes on the far right are followed by fools.

/far left too...
//GOBAMA

Suicidal Writer: GWShenlong05: Suicidal Writer: This can only hurt Obama even more than he is already hurt. Liberal Hollywood values do not reflect the values of Middle America. Liberal Hollywood is seen as elitist and pontificating and he has nothing to gain by voluntarily associating with Hollywood stars.

Zombie Jack Kennedy could dig himself out of his grave, lurch to a podium, and empatically endorse Obama - as emphatically as a zombie can muster, at least - and you'd find a reason why it's a setback for Obama.


Or Obama could unify The Democrat Party and stop the trend of WWCV's going for the Republican candidate. That'd work in his favor.

Thank you for your concern.

Lionel Mandrake: GWShenlong05: Zombie Jack Kennedy could dig himself out of his grave, lurch to a podium, and empatically endorse Obama - as emphatically as a zombie can muster, at least - and you'd find a reason why it's a setback for Obama.

If he then goes on a brain-feasting rampage on live TV, I can see how that might be a net negative for Obama.

Or a huge boost, given how fast the zombie thing spreads once someone is infected.

Wait wait...back up. Hollywood has liberals?

You have something against eating brains? What's this world coming to?

I stand up for my brain eating zombie bretheren.

Suicidal Writer: Or Obama could unify The Democrat Party

Democraticilicious Party.

/Learn it.
//Live it.
///Love it.
////Troll

Tr0mBoNe: I'm pretty sure McCain has the know-how to do that. I'm not sure Obama does.

You think McCain knows how to fix the economy?

The guy HIMSELF has said he doesn't know d*ck about economics.

Someone ask Barbara Streisand what she thinks!

puffy999:
The guy HIMSELF has said he doesn't know d*ck about economics.

Neither does Obama. When Chucky Gibson asked him about raising the cap.gains tax, Obama said he'd do it because he felt it was more "fair". That's the reasoning I like to hear. If only Dubya had admitted he was a farking nimrod about economics 8 years ago.

I'm not saying Obama is going to fix everything, nor that he's even close to an expert on economic policy (hell, on some stances, I completely disagree with the guy).

However, he gets at LEAST a push with McCain.

/note: most theories pushed for by both sides of the aisle are doomed to fail in one way or another
//even if people touting them THINK their way is the "right" way

Awesome, they can make it look like he's been on the moon and shore up his foreign policy cred.

/Snark
//gObama

Mr. McCain: "...You know, I'm sure I've taken a position on it on the past. I have to find out what my position was. Brian, would you find out what my position is on contraception... "

Holy shiat. Should you really have to ask someone else what your own position on an issue is?

Tr0mBoNe:
/Yeah I'm from Canada
///If I could vote, I'd vote for McCain.

First, you can't be centrist and vote McCain. Maybe for a GOP senator or something, but not for McCain.

Second, what are you, Albertan? Yeesh! I challenge you Canadianhood!

SubmitterCan Hollywood unite to sink Obama's chances in November? Yes it can

When you hold stereotypes of a person's supporters against him, you are part of the problem. fark you, submitter, burn in hell you moronic sack of shiat.

hyperspacemonkey:

Second, what are you, Albertan? Yeesh! I challenge your Canadianhood!

Darn it. There goes my credibility once again.

quickdraw: Really? You would vote for a man who is unclear on the concept about preventing HIV through condoms?^
"Q...Do you think contraceptives help stop the spread of HIV?"
Mr. McCain: (Long pause) "You've stumped me."
Q: "I mean, I think you'd probably agree it probably does help stop it?"......

Q: "But you would agree that condoms do STOP the spread of sexually transmitted diseases.

Who's the idiot here quickdraw...

con·tra·cep·tive - n. - A device, drug, or chemical agent that prevents conception.

So an open-ended question like the one that you quote should imply that McCain is an idiot because he doesn't just spout out what a Democratic candidate would automatically answer, because the "Clinton" in you wants the sound-bite response that you have come to expect? Are condoms 100% effective at the spread of diseases like HIV? NO!

Furthermore, other things that are also contraceptives don't help prevent the spread of HIV such as birth control pills, IUDs, NuvaRing, etc. Damm (sic) McCain for saying that he needs to check on it before he answers, rather than just blowing smoke out his @$$ like you have come to expect. And if you think condoms are a sure thing, then you are an idiot.
It's people like you who kill people by their ignorance...

/Obama is OK...but I can smell a Hillary idiot a mile off....

El_Dan: When you hold stereotypes of a person's supporters against him, you are part of the problem. fark you, submitter, burn in hell you moronic sack of shiat.

Ron Paul would like to have a word with you.

Hollywood can eat it either way, but remember that the vast, VAST majority of mouth breathers our country is made up of cannot think for themselves, and will happily and blindly do whatever they're told by famous people 'cuz they's on the TV Box and the movin' pitchers.

/see what I did there

sarcastrophe: El_Dan: When you hold stereotypes of a person's supporters against him, you are part of the problem. fark you, submitter, burn in hell you moronic sack of shiat.

Ron Paul would like to have a word with you.

Ron Paul says all sorts of crazy stuff, and his supporters reflect that.

Right wing attacks against Obama for being supported by "Hollywood liberals" are not the same thing. Instead of being based on actual, in-context statements by the candidate, they're based on negative cultural stereotypes. "This candidate is crazy, and so are his supporters" is not the same thing as "this candidate is crazy because I believe stereotypes that some of his supporters are crazy."

steelpeg: So an open-ended question like the one that you quote should imply that McCain is an idiot because he doesn't just spout out what a Democratic candidate would automatically answer, because the "Clinton" in you wants the sound-bite response that you have come to expect?

A poorly phrased question, sure, but the answer is still quite lacking.

The problem is largely with the selective emphasis you used when you included the quote.

"Q...Do you think contraceptives help stop the spread of HIV?"
Mr. McCain: (Long pause) "You've stumped me."
Q: "I mean, I think you'd probably agree it probably does help stop it?"......

Q: "But you would agree that condoms do STOP the spread of sexually transmitted diseases.

The questioner did use the phrase "help stop" twice before he used "stop" by itself, so that should have been enough to establish that the question wasn't about whether condoms completely stop the spread of STD's. Also, the questioner did mention condoms by name, so that should've removed any confusion as to what contraceptives were relevant to the discussion (something that should've never needed clarification to begin with, but there you go).

Face it; McCain did stumble on this question, and stumble badly.

Biological Ali: Face it; McCain did stumble on this question, and stumble badly.

That was weird. McCain had trouble answering a question the average 14 year old would have little problem with.

hyperspacemonkey: Tr0mBoNe:
/Yeah I'm from Canada
///If I could vote, I'd vote for McCain.

First, you can't be centrist and vote McCain. Maybe for a GOP senator or something, but not for McCain.

Second, what are you, Albertan? Yeesh! I challenge you Canadianhood!

oh, dat's a fightin word, bye - calling a 'scotian a 'bertan.

/'tarian.

krupintupple: oh, dat's a fightin word, bye - calling a 'scotian a 'bertan.

I think it's safe to assume that he's not his guy, buddy.

I've never cared which celebrities supported who, I'm gonna vote for who I agree. For that matter, I've never cared who supports the guy I've decided to vote for.

All the terrorists in the world could call in their support for Obama, and I'd still vote for him if I felt I agreed with his politics. And if all the Nazis in world came out and supported McCain, I'd still vote for him.

Actually, you know what, if that happened I think I'd sit this election out and work on my tinfoil suit...

As long as he doesn't call Hollywood our heart and soul, he should be ok.

Heeeey... that headline was misleading!

Neeek: Biological Ali: Face it; McCain did stumble on this question, and stumble badly.

That was weird. McCain had trouble answering a question the average 14 year old would have little problem with.

unless they were homeschooled by an evangelical

The attacks on the subby are puzzling. Headline contains too much truth for some people?

Yesdog: Is it the fault of liberals that many Republicans are backwards, cowardly and willfully ignorant? Or is "Hollywood" unfair in not supporting gay-hating, fear-mongering, bigoted, war-obsessed lunatics?

Wow. Is it the fault of the average voter that many in Hollywood would like to see all firearms taken away from citizens and redistributed to Mexicans as they cross the border? Does the average voter respect the fact that Hollywood wants 13 year old girls to have third trimester abortions without parental consent?


/willfully ignorant

FTA: At least one mega concert is already in the works. (Bruce Springsteen, anyone?)

Ugh.

/from Jersey
//hates Springsteen
///but not as much as Bon Jovi

quickdraw: Really? You would vote for a man who is unclear on the concept about preventing HIV through condoms?^

To be fair, McCain has to cozy up to the insane religious right that were handed the reigns of the Republican party by Reagan and Bush II.

Tr0mBoNe: John McCain or Barak Obama... it doesn't matter in the end who they fark at night, only if they can balance the budget and stop the downward economical spiral the country is locked in.

Both guys realize this... and both of these guys are closer to the middle than the wings anyway. Just as a hardcore republican can't be elected, a pussy liberal can't either. In the end you need someone to clean up the government and fix the economy.

I'm pretty sure McCain has the know-how to do that. I'm not sure Obama does. Sure he's the easy and safe choice but in the end, I'm not convinced he's the right choice.

Liberal policies are not going to save the country... tax increases and a slowdown on government spending will.

/Yeah I'm from Canada
//We have a vested interest in your election
///If I could vote, I'd vote for McCain.
////Centrist.

OmarBradley: /willfully ignorant

If you believe that then, yes, you are.

Suicidal Writer: Liberal Hollywood values do not reflect the values of Middle America.


... ya know, morons.

//Lifelong Midwesterner