He does seem to take a lighter attitude to the subject than one would expect, but his point has merit. Of course, that was a highly edited piece, so I don't know if he was glossing over the actual torture to make the point that "panties on the head" doesn't count as such, but I'll break it down for him:

Panties on head - Not torture
Waterboarding - Torture
Calling someone's mother names - Not Torture
Electroshock - Torture

See? Wasn't that easy?

an evil, evil man - who was a good friend to the taliban, as i recall.

The surviving heirs of the Japanese soldiers who were executed for war crimes (aka: waterboarding caputured soldiers) should sue the USA for their losses, since what they were accused of doing was clearly nothing more than just frat boy hijinx.

I hate to say it, but he headline, the video introduction doesn't exactly reflect Dana's lust for violence. He doesn't see what the big deal about putting panties on the head.

Its demeaning for sure, but is it tourcher?

Darth_Lukecash: Its demeaning for sure, but is it tourcher?

If you focus on the most minor aspects of the abuse, then sure it's no big deal. Of course in order to do so you have to deliberately ignore the actual abuses.

Laughing about "panties on the head" is a great way of avoiding the subject of "waterboarding" or "beatings" or "handing people over to the Egyptians or the Syrians with a go-ahead-and-do-what-you-want nod and wink" or "that guy at Abu Ghriab who got beat to death and put on-ice for a few days until they could figure out what to do with him" or Maher Arar or child soldiers captured and held in violation of international law or....

Oh, you silly libtards, don't you see?
It's all just consensual fun at Guantanamo and in Iraq.
Here's proof:

Bill_Wick's_Friend: The surviving heirs of the Japanese soldiers who were executed for war crimes (aka: waterboarding caputured soldiers) should sue the USA for their losses, since what they were accused of doing was clearly nothing more than just frat boy hijinx.

Come on, we're the God blessin' US of A. It's not torture when we do it.

Anyone that really believes torture is legal should have it done to them.

I say panties more frequently than that. It's in me name!

Hmm. A dude named "Dana" gets panties put on his head. Who'd have guessed?

"Son, this world is rough
And if a man's gonna make it, he's gotta be tough
And I knew I wouldn't be there to help ya along.
So I give ya that name and I said goodbye
I knew you'd have to get tough or die
And it's the name that helped to make you strong."

He said: "Now you just fought one hell of a fight
And I know you hate me, and you got the right
To kill me now, and I wouldn't blame you if you wanna.
But ya ought to thank me, before I die,
For the gravel in ya guts and the spit in ya eye
Cause I'm the son-of-a-biatch that named you "Dana.'"

FlashHarry: an evil, evil man - who was a good friend to the taliban, as i recall.

Yup, not to mention a good friend of Abramoff and a classy guy who wishes his opponents' families to die in a terrorist attack.

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/24/rohrabacher-terrorists/

/used to be in this a-hole's district

Didn't Professor Bobo use panties as his defense of Mike Nelson for planetcide?

Panties, panties, panties!

Nestea Plunge: Even better was Anal Farkfest Night at Dana's frat sorority: he she supplied the sawhorses and floor sawdust to catch the blood.

I read it like that with a raised eyebrow.

Was thinking of a different Dana.

/no streaming allowed...

whidbey: Anyone that really believes torture is legal should have it done to them.

If Bush is willing to go through the worst interrogation method they have, I'll let him say it isn't torture.

If he survives of course...

Panties?

They are using panties for torture? Whose panties?

Here's a tip for the farkettes: Macy's is giving away panties. Print a coupon at bargainist.com

USA throws cold water on terrorist suspects: "OMFG!!! Torture!!!" Exclusively featured on Amnesty International's website.

Al-Qaeda-in-Iraq torture murders two U.S. soldiers: *crickets chirping* Not even mentioned on Amnesty International's website.

Dear Jerk: Here's a tip for the farkettes: Macy's is giving away panties. Print a coupon at bargainist.com

I'm giving away panties at my apartment. Email for directions :)

Not as nice as Macy's, but I'll get you stoned, let you play my Wii, and drool over you incessantly.

Fart_Machine: FlashHarry: an evil, evil man - who was a good friend to the taliban, as i recall.

Yup, not to mention a good friend of Abramoff and a classy guy who wishes his opponents' families to die in a terrorist attack.

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/24/rohrabacher-terrorists/

/used to be in this a-hole's district

Me too. I still check every now and again to make sure Dana hasn't followed me.

He looks like hell, though.

JQPublic: USA throws cold water on terrorist suspects: "OMFG!!! Torture!!!" Exclusively featured on Amnesty International's website.

Al-Qaeda-in-Iraq torture murders two U.S. soldiers: *crickets chirping* Not even mentioned on Amnesty International's website.

Strapping a victim down, sealing his mouth and nose with cellophane or, if he's lucky, a leather blanket, and pouring water on his face until his entire body clenches up with sheer terror because his body is losing oxygen and thinks it's drowning is not "pouring cold water on a terrorist," you worthless sack of flesh. It's torture.

And in case you didn't notice, Amnesty International is an NGO that focuses on abuse on the part of governments. What some worthless terrorists do isn't a concern to them unless they're backed by a government, like the Janjaweed in Sudan.

He's not exactly the pinnacle of reason, Captain...

captainktainer: JQPublic: USA throws cold water on terrorist suspects: "OMFG!!! Torture!!!" Exclusively featured on Amnesty International's website.

Al-Qaeda-in-Iraq torture murders two U.S. soldiers: *crickets chirping* Not even mentioned on Amnesty International's website.

Strapping a victim down, sealing his mouth and nose with cellophane or, if he's lucky, a leather blanket, and pouring water on his face until his entire body clenches up with sheer terror because his body is losing oxygen and thinks it's drowning is not "pouring cold water on a terrorist," you worthless sack of flesh. It's torture.

And in case you didn't notice, Amnesty International is an NGO that focuses on abuse on the part of governments. What some worthless terrorists do isn't a concern to them unless they're backed by a government, like the Janjaweed in Sudan.

Yeah, real sob story. AI certainly wouldn't want to offend any Muslims by suggesting that they NOT gouge out people's eyes and slit their throats.

whidbey: He's not exactly the pinnacle of reason, Captain...

Put me back on your "ignore" list. Thanks.

JQPublic: Put me back on your "ignore" list. Thanks.

No, I let all them f*ckers loose. You're either going to have to start making coherent arguments that aren't utterly full of FAIL, or face my unending dogged ridicule.

Darth_Lukecash: I hate to say it, but he headline, the video introduction doesn't exactly reflect Dana's lust for violence. He doesn't see what the big deal about putting panties on the head.

Its demeaning for sure, but is it tourcher?

This is called 'misdirection.' Panties crowning is not the issue.

JQPublic: Yeah, real sob story. AI certainly wouldn't want to offend any Muslims by suggesting that they NOT gouge out people's eyes and slit their throats.

They did precisely that with respect to Sudan. Difference? The Janjaweed are government-backed, and diplomatic measures can affect them. The more you know...

whidbey: He's not exactly the pinnacle of reason, Captain...

Clearly.

JQPublic:

Yeah, real sob story. AI certainly wouldn't want to offend any Muslims by suggesting that they NOT gouge out people's eyes and slit their throats. I have no idea what Amnesty International actually is or does, but I'll still run my wordhole.


FTFY

PascalsGhost: :

Yeah, real sob story. AI certainly wouldn't want to offend any Muslims by suggesting that they NOT gouge out people's eyes and slit their throats. I have no idea what Amnesty International actually is or does, but I'll still run my wordhole.


FTFY

fixed.

captainktainer:

They did precisely that with respect to Sudan. Difference? The Janjaweed are government-backed,[So is Hamas and Hezbollah] and diplomatic measures can affect them. The more you know...
.

Rohrabacher is an idiot.

But this video is pretty stupid.

JQPublic: captainktainer:

They did precisely that with respect to Sudan. Difference? The Janjaweed are government-backed,[So is Hamas and Hezbollah] and diplomatic measures can affect them. The more you know...
.

Wow. You are by far the stupidest politics troll I've ever seen. You're like the Statue of Liberty of stupidity. A clear and present beacon, ever-present, shining your stupidity over the unwashed masses.

i bet he was sodomized with a chemical light stick at the frat initiation

JQPublic: USA throws cold water on terrorist suspects: "OMFG!!! Torture!!!" Exclusively featured on Amnesty International's website.

Al-Qaeda-in-Iraq torture murders two U.S. soldiers: *crickets chirping* Not even mentioned on Amnesty International's website.

Well, to be honest Al Queda never signed an agreement with the international community swearing they'd never torture.. but hey, we're the good guys, we're supposed to do the same things the bad guys do AND not keep our promises.

After all, didn't Jesus once say "It's not a sin when I do it"?

Did someone say 'panties'??

JQPublic: USA throws cold water on terrorist suspects: "OMFG!!! Torture!!!" Exclusively featured on Amnesty International's website.

Al-Qaeda-in-Iraq torture murders two U.S. soldiers: *crickets chirping* Not even mentioned on Amnesty International's website.

You mean you didn't find this (new window) report from 2005?

you're lame even for a troll

Sounds like "Dana" the closet queer is wearing panties through this hearing. Every time "Dana" says "panties", "it moves".

Why do people assume that waterboarding is like some deffined limit to the crazy shiat that we do to detainees?

I would love to see this coont read up on some Enhanced-Level Human Resource Exploitation... like the stuff that doesn't get recorded or reported.

Repeted common peroneal strikes. Circulation discontinuation. Amputation and anethisia-less surgery.

Exposure to tear gas for 23 hour periods. LSD, exposure to mictrowaves.

Arse-farking a 14 years old boy in front of their parents then crushing his head with a brick. (this one WAS video-taped for later 'intimidation pourposes'.)

It's almost as like they take the border-line offencive stuff to focus on, to argue over the ethical aspects, as a means of distraction for the REAL torture that you don't know about.

/ If you think that I am making this up, you can eat a dick.
//Fark torture. Fark the lady in the article.
///Slashies for the human-spirit y'all.

Bucky Katt: You mean you didn't find this (new window) report from 2005?

Oooops. Guess he should have...y'know....CHECKED Amnesty International's website before spouting off, eh?

pwn3d.

People argue like morans on why torture doesn't work...

The reason that it doesn't work... here's a secret from Vietnam that the chickenhawks don't tell you about. They can't know about... cause they never did it themselves.

The ignorance of who you are questioning. That's all.

You can torture the fark out of someone that REALLY doesn't know anything... he won't be able to tell you anything.

Of course you assume that he's holding out intel, and you can torture some more. But that won't stop the fact that he may not know what your looking for to begin with.

How many people, unrelated to a terrorist organizations, were detained and tortured just on the assumtion that he was holding out info?

Then we shrug it off, like: "They are adapting to our techniques, I just spent 3 days kicking the shiat out of him and he still won't tell me where he's hidding his 9/11 machine."

frat boy my ass. the constitution forbids cruel and unusual punishment of people in detention.

LowbrowDeluxe: JQPublic: captainktainer:

They did precisely that with respect to Sudan. Difference? The Janjaweed are government-backed,[So is Hamas and Hezbollah] and diplomatic measures can affect them. The more you know...
.

Wow. You are by far the stupidest politics troll I've ever seen. You're like the Statue of Liberty of stupidity. A clear and present beacon, ever-present, shining your stupidity over the unwashed masses.

Waaaaah, I told the truth and you don't like it.

Falcc:

Well, to be honest Al Queda never signed an agreement with the international community swearing they'd never torture.. but hey, we're the good guys, we're supposed to do the same things the bad guys do AND not keep our promises.

After all, didn't Jesus once say "It's not a sin when I do it"?

What's the matter? Is it too much to ask for AI speak out against torture murdering American POWs? Seems if they really cared about "people" they wouldn't be so selective.

Bucky Katt:

You mean you didn't find this (new window) report from 2005?

you're lame even for a troll

Yeah, I'm the "troll". You posted a completely unrelated link. Way to fail there, guy. Seems AI can list incident after incident of select atrocities, but no mention of torture murdered American POWs.

Bill_Wick's_Friend:

Oooops. Guess he should have...y'know....CHECKED Amnesty International's website before spouting off, eh?

pwn3d.

Oooops. Guess you should have....y'know.....CHECKED Amnesty International's website before spouting off, eh?

pwn3d.


Four dickheads, all pwn3d at once. All too easy.