What about not being around for your daughter's childhood Ravi?

Suck it, Ravi.

NittLion78: Suck it, Ravi.

I never agree with you but, THIS.

Gunny Highway: What about not being around for your daughter's childhood Ravi?

Ouch. But accurate.

To watch the performance in its entirety and listen to Jimi explain what he was about to do, it was a spiritual experience for him. Granted, he was trippin' purple ballz, all in his brain.

Ravi Shankar had a sh*tfit if someone lit up during one of his performances.

Great story. I love the culture clash, followed by "The organisers' solution was to give Shankar his own stage for an altogether more civilised afternoon performance of assorted ragas, during which Hendrix sat quietly in the front row."

Shankar? I always thought his last name was O'Lee.

I thought having sex with your own children was the greatest sacrilege possible

whidbey: Ravi Shankar had a sh*tfit if someone lit up during one of his performances.

So farking what?

Can you not smoke drugs for just an hour or two, or is that too much to ask?

Who said drugs? I paid for the tickets. If it didn't say NO SMOKING, I get to smoke a cig if I want.

King Crimson was indoors, no snoking allowed, on the ticket, no sweat.

Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: Who said drugs? I paid for the tickets. If it didn't say NO SMOKING, I get to smoke a cig if I want.

King Crimson was indoors, no snoking allowed, on the ticket, no sweat.

You paid for the tickets, but you didn't spend a lifetime mastering a very difficult instrument in a nearly inscrutable style, along the way reinventing it.

Have a little respect. You'll live through your nic fit.

No respect for the masters. But then, Americans wouldn't know a master of anything if it bit them in the ass. I guess that's what comes from a culture built on lowest-common-denominator radio-friendly unit shifters.

Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: Who said drugs? I paid for the tickets. If it didn't say NO SMOKING, I get to smoke a cig if I want.

King Crimson was indoors, no snoking allowed, on the ticket, no sweat.

"Hey, I paid for the ticket. If I want to bring an airhorn in or crap my pants or hump my girlfriend, that's my right. I'm an American consumer, GOD DAMN IT, and I should be allowed to do whatever I want, because I am the only important conscious being in the concert hall"

This thread is useless without pics of Ravi's two OMG HIT IT HIT IT HIT IT daughters.

What a pussy.

dude makes me want to burn all my george harrison albums.

With all due respect to Mr. Shankar, people will be listening to Jimi Hendrix long after Ravi is forgotten.

Kurmudgeon: With all due respect to Mr. Shankar, people will be listening to Jimi Hendrix long after Ravi is forgotten.

With all due respect, Ravi Shankar won't be forgotten.

Maybe in the States, he will. But he did for the sitar and Indian music as much (or more) than Hendrix did for the guitar.

/Hendrix fan
//Shankar fan

...after Ravi is forgotten.

Highly unlikely. The man took sitar playing to a new level and introduced the world to the classical music of the Indian sub-continent. I don't think he will ever be forgotten in India; but that doesn't matter 'cause they're them little brown people.

DslainteC: Shankar? I always thought his last name was O'Lee.

I see what you did there.

im with ravi. ravi OWNED monterey and hendrix was f*cking terrible like he always was live.

Will you still love me when I'm in my hanging out with Ravi Shankar phase?

shankar had sex with his daughters?

i must be missing some bit of knowledge here...not that i was looking.

as someone who loves guitars i can't understand destroying them (like jimi and townsend). unless they were esteban's of course.

/they are smokin btw...the daughters

"It was a hodgepodge of Kama Sutra, Tantra, yoga, hash and LSD, while the true spiritual quality of our music was almost completely lost."

5 out of 6 ain't bad
/Ravi and Jimi are both great, and Ravi is excellent live

Kurmudgeon: With all due respect to Mr. Shankar, people will be listening to Jimi Hendrix long after Ravi is forgotten.

Um, you do know that there are a few people in India and Asia, right?

Just....a....few.

/Viva Jimi and Ravi 4-eva

carmody: No respect for the masters. But then, Americans wouldn't know a master of anything if it bit them in the ass. I guess that's what comes from a culture built on lowest-common-denominator radio-friendly unit shifters.

What comes from a myopic view of American culture based entirely on stereotypes?

DIAF.

BRENDAN-FACE:

What comes from a myopic view of American culture based entirely on stereotypes?

DIAF.

Republicans?

Marla Singer's Laundry: Can you not smoke drugs for just an hour or two, or is that too much to ask?

What are you, a puritan?

Raga music is perfect for getting high. I enjoy the act of smoking while I'm hearing the music.

I don't smoke cigarettes, and I can (almost) understand the concern.

This is why man invented ventilation systems.

Kurmudgeon: With all due respect to Mr. Shankar, people will be listening to Jimi Hendrix long after Ravi is forgotten.

Um, no.

BRENDAN-FACE: What comes from a myopic view of American culture based entirely on stereotypes?

He's not really wrong, though. I'm born and raised American (daughter of immigrants) and the level of narrow-mindedness and self-centeredness here is staggering.

"Myopic" better describes the American public than his view of it.

Sitar is a nice instrument for a background ambiance, atmosphere effect, but listening to that droning tinny crap by itself for more than a couple minutes is torture.

Might as well be bagpipes.

AdolfOliverPanties: Sitar is a nice instrument for a background ambiance, atmosphere effect, but listening to that droning tinny crap by itself for more than a couple minutes is torture.

Might as well be bagpipes.

That's probably because you're equating Indian music with the alap section of a raga. It's not all like that--although the common misconception is that it is.

Check out the last couple of minutes of Shankar's performance in the Monterey Pop film. Shankar and his tabla player, Alla Rakha, trade riffs at extremely high speed: Shankar plays something fast, and Alla Rakha plays it back in the same rhythm and with the pitch approximated on the bayan ("bass") drum. They trade back and forth for a while before Shankar revs it up and ends the piece.

That particular piece isn't a raga; it's a dhun, although it's based on a raga. For the uninitiated, that gat section of the raga is the fun stuff, where the tabla is playing and the speed usually keeps accelerating. You have to get through the alap (free) and jor sections of the raga to get to the more-familiar territory of the gat. Make no mistake--these guys can shred like anything. You just have to wait for it. There are also melodic motifs that show up in the gat, like the lead line in a jazz blowout. (They sometimes begin in the jor section, if the musician plays one.)

\love the user name, BTW

I have The Concert For Bangladesh on record and I love to put on side 1, which is nothing but Shankar's opening Bangla Dhun.

Also, despite Ravi's concern prior to playing the song, it's quite enjoyable to light a doobie while listening to it. I also get a kick out of when he and his group are tuning their instruments, which the crowd thinks was a complete piece of music.

And to think, I found a great-shape copy of Bangladesh off eBay for 5 bucks. It came with the 50 page booklet full of pictures from the concert too.

/loves and collects records

GypsyJoker: Check out the last couple of minutes of Shankar's performance in the Monterey Pop film. Shankar and his tabla player, Alla Rakha, trade riffs at extremely high speed: Shankar plays something fast, and Alla Rakha plays it back in the same rhythm and with the pitch approximated on the bayan ("bass") drum. They trade back and forth for a while before Shankar revs it up and ends the piece.

Meh. Saw the same thing with a retarded kid on banjo and a yuppie on guitar in Deliverance.

I bet he knows Benny Lava.

/got a bun to bite.

HeatherPK: BRENDAN-FACE: What comes from a myopic view of American culture based entirely on stereotypes?

He's not really wrong, though. I'm born and raised American (daughter of immigrants) and the level of narrow-mindedness and self-centeredness here is staggering.

"Myopic" better describes the American public than his view of it.

it's sad that you come to an article about music and boil it down to the broad, dull cultural generalizations. unless you have lived a significant amount of time in another country to accurately assess the true views of people and not what you read on the internet and see on TV you are not myopic but blind.

Marla Singer's Laundry: Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: Who said drugs? I paid for the tickets. If it didn't say NO SMOKING, I get to smoke a cig if I want.

King Crimson was indoors, no snoking allowed, on the ticket, no sweat.

You paid for the tickets, but you didn't spend a lifetime mastering a very difficult instrument in a nearly inscrutable style, along the way reinventing it.

Have a little respect. You'll live through your nic fit.

Marla Singer's Laundry: Dubya's_Coke_Dealer: Who said drugs? I paid for the tickets. If it didn't say NO SMOKING, I get to smoke a cig if I want.

King Crimson was indoors, no snoking allowed, on the ticket, no sweat.

"Hey, I paid for the ticket. If I want to bring an airhorn in or crap my pants or hump my girlfriend, that's my right. I'm an American consumer, GOD DAMN IT, and I should be allowed to do whatever I want, because I am the only important conscious being in the concert hall"


Holy twisted panties Batman!!!

No Flash Photography

Is that so hard?