Go Hildabeast, don't quit, you CAN WIN!!!

It takes balls, BALLS I say, to project ANYTHING with 0% of the votes in. Poll all you like, but it's the voters who actually GO VOTE that end up making the decisions.

Somehow, nobody remembers Dewey-Truman...or Gore-Bush....

aw, this is a stupid, farked up election system anyway. The entire party system just doesn't make SENSE anymore, not in a world where you can plot every politician on a contiuum from liberal to conservtive and find a pretty good bell curve, not actual polarization. The electoral college made sense when we didn't have instantaneous communications across the continent. But we do, now, and we need to dismantle the portions of the election system that keep the people's voices from actually being heard. At this point in time, it should easily be possible to log on and vote from home. But no...we can't even get reliable electronic polling machines.

xlbrooklyn: It takes balls, BALLS I say, to project ANYTHING with 0% of the votes in. Poll all you like, but it's the voters who actually GO VOTE that end up making the decisions.

Somehow, nobody remembers Dewey-Truman...or Gore-Bush....

aw, this is a stupid, farked up election system anyway. The entire party system just doesn't make SENSE anymore, not in a world where you can plot every politician on a contiuum from liberal to conservtive and find a pretty good bell curve, not actual polarization. The electoral college made sense when we didn't have instantaneous communications across the continent. But we do, now, and we need to dismantle the portions of the election system that keep the people's voices from actually being heard. At this point in time, it should easily be possible to log on and vote from home. But no...we can't even get reliable electronic polling machines.

that's a lot of rage wasted over what they projected might be as low as 400,000 votes, in a place that can't actually vote in the general election.

xlbrooklyn: Poll all you like, but it's the voters who actually GO VOTE that end up making the decisions.

.. that's why they ask the people who actually go vote. You do know they're called "exit polls" because they are done as people exit the voting location, right?

Great jeorb, PR. Thanks for extending out this little frakking drama a few more days.

A shame we can't put her on a Cylon basestar that jumps into unknown space because a hybrid has a shiat-fit... Then have her blown out of an airlock. I can dream.

/Her and Baltar both
//Obama-Adama '08
///Too much BSG

Joe Six-Keg: Great jeorb, PR. Thanks for extending out this little frakking drama a few more days.

What? Because you are sick and tired of the Dem nomination process, you think that we should end the race early, declare Obama the winner and deny people a vote?

I can't stand Hillary's actions either, but I'm not for chucking the democratic process out the window for the sake of expediency. This isn't Peurto Rico's fault, so don't take it out on them.

rcain:
What? Because you are sick and tired of the Dem nomination process, you think that we should end the race early, declare Obama the winner and deny people a vote?

I can't stand Hillary's actions either, but I'm not for chucking the democratic process out the window for the sake of expediency. This isn't Peurto Rico's fault, so don't take it out on them.

Sorry if it came across as anti-democratic, but I am getting tired of the "flexible rules" that seem to be in play. Whoever called this Calvinball was on the money. I also am against the blatant flaunting and ethical violations we're seeing from her. She is demonstrating the worst qualities in a leader. We've had seven years of bad leadership already. I do not want any more.

rcain: I can't stand Hillary's actions either, but I'm not for chucking the democratic process out the window for the sake of expediency. This isn't Peurto Rico's fault, so don't take it out on them.

After all this, I am all for chucking the democratic process in the primary.

A chicken drop would be a better method of picking a candidate than this fiasco has turned out to be, and would be just as legitimate.

gilgigamesh: rcain: I can't stand Hillary's actions either, but I'm not for chucking the democratic process out the window for the sake of expediency. This isn't Peurto Rico's fault, so don't take it out on them.

After all this, I am all for chucking the democratic process in the primary.

A chicken drop would be a better method of picking a candidate than this fiasco has turned out to be, and would be just as legitimate.

Mmmm... Chicken.

/Hungry now.

Just one little problem with the headline...Puerto Rico isn't a state, it's a U.S. Territory. They can't vote in the general elections in November either.

Joe Six-Keg: Sorry if it came across as anti-democratic, but I am getting tired of the "flexible rules" that seem to be in play. Whoever called this Calvinball was on the money. I also am against the blatant flaunting and ethical violations we're seeing from her. She is demonstrating the worst qualities in a leader. We've had seven years of bad leadership already. I do not want any more.

that's why I'm pro-Obama. Hillary has exceeded the worst expectations I had of her.
Her actions and the words from her staunchest supporters sicken me to no level.
I'm to the point of not seeing any difference between her and the Bush Administration.
Do anything, say anything, lie cheat and steal, whatever it takes to get your way.

Obama has taken the high road all along here. And his candidacy contrasts Hillary's in almost every way.

gilgigamesh: A chicken drop would be a better method of picking a candidate than this fiasco has turned out to be, and would be just as legitimate.

Well, blame Hillary and the HillaryNation for that. I watched CSPAN all afternoon yesterday while they debated this fiasco they created. And hearing the Hillary supporters heckle the speakers when they talked about anything BUT handing over the 2 states to Hillary showed just what sort of culture has been bred by Hillary and her campaign. These people actually think that changing the rules mid-game and pulling hat tricks is a legitimate method of conducting an election.

It's unfortunate that Obama is implicated in this mess. And I understand why. He is after all a part of it by being in the race and succeeding. But he is not the instigator here, Hillary is. He hasn't done anything to obstruct or draw the process out. No threats of lawsuits or splitting the party, in fact he offered up a compromise plan that gave Hillary the majority share in both states. He could not afford to sit on the sidelines during this process, but he has only tried to aid in getting the problems resolved. Hillary is the one driving these issues and making the scene.

If the roles were reversed with the circumstances in MI and FL the same, I highly doubt Obama would have stooped to the levels Hillary has.

Bathia_Mapes: Just one little problem with the headline...Puerto Rico isn't a state, it's a U.S. Territory. They can't vote in the general elections in November either.

Unfortunately, in Hillary's mind, it's a state. It's a swing state! It matters!(tm)

/Gods, I hate that woman.

Joe Six-Keg: Mmmm... Chicken.

/Hungry now.

You, uh, might want to think twice about that meal.

Chicken drop

Bathia_Mapes: Just one little problem with the headline...Puerto Rico isn't a state, it's a U.S. Territory. They can't vote in the general elections in November either.

True that, but as US Citizens they can vote via an absentee ballot from their last State of residence.
So their votes still count, but not as a vote from Peurto Rico.

From the US Expatriate Handbook. (new window)

gilgigamesh: Joe Six-Keg: Mmmm... Chicken.

/Hungry now.

You, uh, might want to think twice about that meal.

Chicken drop

That's why I just said chicken.

/Crazy and hungry, not stupid.

Bathia_Mapes: Just one little problem with the headline...Puerto Rico isn't a state, it's a U.S. Territory. They can't vote in the general elections in November either.

I think that's part of the joke.

Does this mean Puerto Ricans really AREN'T black after all?

Saw a video on CNN.com asking if Puerto Rico was a "game changer."

/It kind of made me sick to my stomach.

Puerto Rico proving once again in this election that Mexicans Hate Black People.


Oh get over it, your Mexicans as far as everybody else is concerned.

/when this is over the Democrats will be so farked that Karl Rove will die laughing and come back as a Lich.

Bathia_Mapes: Just one little problem with the headline...Puerto Rico isn't a state, it's a U.S. Territory

It's not a "U.S. Territory" either.

RichieLaw: Saw a video on CNN.com asking if Puerto Rico was a "game changer."

/It kind of made me sick to my stomach.

Jesus Christ! Does the media have a huge stake in her staying in this crap??? SHE'S DONE!!! fark. I hate these ratings-whores. I can't wait for Obama to seal the deal...gonna throw a big party (or just drink half a bottle of tequila alone)...but it's gonna be a great day.

Bathia_Mapes: Just one little problem with the headline...Puerto Rico isn't a state, it's a U.S. Territory. They can't vote in the general elections in November either.

Hush you. Don't let facts get in the way of a troll.

Strange how the so called presumptive nominee has now lost more contests than he has won in the last three months.

And how he has lost multiple primaries by a margin of 30 points or more.

You don't pick contestants for march madness based on how they do in December. You pick them on how they do in the clutch.

Clinton has prevailed in the clutch. Winning over and over.

Obama has continually fallen short.

Obama has had five opportunities to end this primary. He could have ended it in New Hampshire. He could have ended it on Super Tuesday. He could have ended it in Texas. He could have ended it in Pennsylvania. And he could have ended it in Indiana.

And every time, Obama has choked.

Obama doesn't have the ability to win the close ones.

Granted, McCain will make Obama into the Black McGovern by November. So McCain wins by 25.

I know technically they count, but it is BS that they do. Who gives a flip about this? Who cares if another nation/country votes for her stupid ass.

it figures they like her...
they are political capons

Before you know it, Hillary will be demanding that every state she won should be worth more delegates.

Hillary's tactic: If I go down, everyone's going down with me.

Churchill2004: Bathia_Mapes: Just one little problem with the headline...Puerto Rico isn't a state, it's a U.S. Territory

It's not a "U.S. Territory" either.

Wikipedia say:

Puerto Rico (IPA: /ˌpwertoˈriko/), officially the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico (Spanish: "Estado Libre Asociado de Puerto Rico" [literally, English: "Associated Free State of Puerto Rico"), is a semi-autonomous territory of the United States located in the northeastern Caribbean, east of the Dominican Republic and west of the Virgin Islands.

How about a "semi-autonomous territory"?

McCainDemocrat, give it up, we all know you're a republican pretending to be a concerned democrat trying to troll people into thinking Obama is weak. It's not working and your skeleton of a candidate has no chance, no matter how much you thrash and flail about like a meth'd out palsy tard.

Joe Six-Keg: Unfortunately, in Hillary's mind, it's a state. It's a swing state!

She'll probably pull out something like "No democratic nominee has lost the Puerto Rico primary and gone on to win the general election." Which her idiot supporters (the ones that will vote for McCain even though he supports the war, is anti-choice, anti-health care, etc) will repeat over and over while kicking and screaming when the superdels secure Obama the nom once the primaries are done.

rcain
What? Because you are sick and tired of the Dem nomination process, you think that we should end the race early, declare Obama the winner and deny people a vote?

I can't stand Hillary's actions either, but I'm not for chucking the democratic process out the window for the sake of expediency. This isn't Peurto Rico's fault, so don't take it out on them.

You mean that same democratic process that tells people to 'drop out' because there is 'no mathematical chance' they can win the last, oh, 40 years?

Any state that votes post super tuesday in the last 4 general election primaries I've been eligible to vote in the only time voting mattered was THIS year. Every other year, the fine month of May, means jack shiat because no matter what, some dick head (*cough* Kerry *cough*) has already been 'sainted' by a select few states well before I get a chance to exercise my right to vote.

So why is it any different now? Oh yeah, cuz it's Hillary and the biatch won't go shut up and go home. She's lost, but the psychotic left wing nutjobs are going to do their best to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Never mind the party they are running against has the lowest support rate of any president in history. Never mind they'd rather have their leader of the party stumping for the other team as it might make life easier for them.

This years election will be one massive EPIC FAIL and if the democrats win anything it will be in spite of themselves.

WizardofToast: Before you know it, Hillary will be demanding that every state she won should be worth more delegates.

Hillary's tactic: If I go down, everyone's going down with me.

Her goal is the presidency, either this election or next, but not in eight years. Everything she does makes perfect sense when viewed through that prism.

Hillary is a farce.

Shame on you, Subby.

Right now, it looks like Clinton holds a lead of around 250K

So, what excuse do you have to not nominate the popular vote victor?

If this is even half true, the lemmings will be jumping off the Obama failboat in 24 hours: http://207.114.86.27/poparticle.php?ID=240615&D=2008-06-01&SO=&HC=3

McCainDemocrat: Strange how the so called presumptive nominee has now lost more contests than he has won in the last three months.

And how he has lost multiple primaries by a margin of 30 points or more.

You don't pick contestants for march madness based on how they do in December. You pick them on how they do in the clutch.

Clinton has prevailed in the clutch. Winning over and over.

Obama has continually fallen short.

Obama has had five opportunities to end this primary. He could have ended it in New Hampshire. He could have ended it on Super Tuesday. He could have ended it in Texas. He could have ended it in Pennsylvania. And he could have ended it in Indiana.

And every time, Obama has choked.

Obama doesn't have the ability to win the close ones.

Granted, McCain will make Obama into the Black McGovern by November. So McCain wins by 25.

LoL...sporting events and political primaries are not even remotely similar.

Let's see...Obama didn't win the racist redneck states that didn't have enough Black people to counter the racist Whites...but because a lot of those primaries came late in the season, somehow he's dropping the ball?

You must be at least slightly retarded...right?

As opposed to the two states that 1/2 matter? Why not 3/5?

McCainDemocrat: Right now, it looks like Clinton holds a lead of around 250K

So, what excuse do you have to not nominate the popular vote victor?

Because the sky is not green.

Well, at least now that Puerto Rico has voted we won't have to see the candidates dance any more.

Great outcomes for Democrats here:

1) Hillary manages to grab a super-delegate win making half her own party hate her
2) Obama limps into a Democratic nomination looking like a weakling with a friend problem

It amazes me that the Democrats have figured out a way to lose the post George W. Bush election to a temperamental old boring man. That is really a big, big, chore right there....but they've managed it.

Pribar: I'm voting for Obama, and I like Kennedy, but damn, that was funny.

McCainDemocrat

newsflash: P.R. doesn't count for anything. They can't vote in the general election, and in order for Hilldawg to reach the popular vote lead under any metric she needed 2 million Ricans to turn out for the vote.

That didn't happen.

She lost.

And your argument that he can't win those close ones is stupid. Under that metric Hillary should have dropped out after the string of 11 losses she suffered earlier in the primary.

trofl: Joe Six-Keg: Unfortunately, in Hillary's mind, it's a state. It's a swing state!

She'll probably pull out something like "No democratic nominee has lost the Puerto Rico primary and gone on to win the general election." Which her idiot supporters (the ones that will vote for McCain even though he supports the war, is anti-choice, anti-health care, etc) will repeat over and over while kicking and screaming when the superdels secure Obama the nom once the primaries are done.

hahahahah, anti-health care, nice.

orclover: Puerto Rico proving once again in this election that Mexicans Hate Black People.


Oh get over it, your Mexicans as far as everybody else is concerned.

/when this is over the Democrats will be so farked that Karl Rove will die laughing and come back as a Lich.

Where's his farking phylactery?

Since when was Puerto Rico a state and not just a tax-free leach on the country?

McCainDemocrat: Right now, it looks like Clinton holds a lead of around 250K

So, what excuse do you have to not nominate the popular vote victor?

Because Obama wasn't on the ballot in Michigan, and you're not counting caucus states, and...

bartink: How about a "semi-autonomous territory"?

"US Territory" has a specific meaning. That's what most US states used to be (or used to be part of). i.e., "Louisiana Territory", "Missouri Territory", "Oregon Territory", etc. Puerto Rico is not one of those.

knbber2: Go Hildabeast
Joe Six-Keg: A shame we can't put her on a Cylon basestar that jumps into unknown space because a hybrid has a shiat-fit... Then have her blown out of an airlock. I can dream.
seminole87: Amazing what a dried out whore of a coont can do if she sets her tiny little mind to it.

Stay classy, Obamacrats

Mart Laar's beard shaver: If this is even half true, the lemmings will be jumping off the Obama failboat in 24 hours: http://207.114.86.27/poparticle.php?ID=240615&D=2008-06-01&SO=&HC=3

Yeah, the Hillhags have been waiting for that video since October. I'm not too worried.

Oh, here's a question I've been meaning to ask. Since Clinton was elected to the Senate in 2000, that means she'll be up for reelection in 2012. So if you think she'll run for the presidency, do you think she'll simultaneously run for the Senate, or give that up?

I really doubt she would give up the Senate seat unless she was legally guaranteed the presidency. In general, it's way better to run for president as a senator when you're not up for reelection.