Golf clap for the headline.

MorrisBird: Golf clap for the headline.

No kidding ;)

So they convert Euros to Kelven, then, right?

My car gets 4 rods to the hogshead and that's the way I likes it.

I'm still having trouble converting tads to smidgens ;)

I get 6 furlongs to the cord.

higher higher
burning fire
making music
like a choir

SpinStopper: I'm still having trouble converting tads to smidgens ;)

3 whole tads and a gnats whisker to each smidgen.

Submitter, I worked in a couple of libraries and this headline makes me want to punch you in the stomach.

So basically, commodity speculation is going to end civilization as we know it.

Great.

After the Great Depression 2.0 hits, i'm gonna start a cult and go around cannabalizing all those dickwad investment bankers.

Weaver95: So basically, commodity speculation is going to end civilization as we know it.

Great.

After the Great Depression 2.0 hits, i'm gonna start a cult and go around cannabalizing all those dickwad investment bankers.

A lot of them are foreign traders too. They threatened to pick up their marbles and go home the other day. How's this globalization working out? I'd say..not so much.

Weaver95: i'm gonna start a cult and go around cannabalizing all those dickwad investment bankers.

You know, I thought you were cool. Seriously. I was all like, if society went to hell and the zombies came, I'd want to be with Weaver95. Now I'm not so sure. Seriously! You would eat a business major? No way. Even if I were starving, there is no way I'd eat an MBA because they are just evil. Conservatism in it's worst way possible.

eddyatwork: Weaver95: i'm gonna start a cult and go around cannabalizing all those dickwad investment bankers.

You know, I thought you were cool. Seriously. I was all like, if society went to hell and the zombies came, I'd want to be with Weaver95. Now I'm not so sure. Seriously! You would eat a business major? No way. Even if I were starving, there is no way I'd eat an MBA because they are just evil. Conservatism in it's worst way possible.

I think PETA will be the most pissed off first..Dog is a fine meal..arrrh!

/baby steps

They don't call it 'gas' either. It's Pétrõléûm Ðïstîllåtè

eddyatwork: Weaver95: i'm gonna start a cult and go around cannabalizing all those dickwad investment bankers.

You know, I thought you were cool. Seriously. I was all like, if society went to hell and the zombies came, I'd want to be with Weaver95. Now I'm not so sure. Seriously! You would eat a business major? No way. Even if I were starving, there is no way I'd eat an MBA because they are just evil. Conservatism in it's worst way possible.

well ok, how about we just enslave them and use them to grow corn for us....?

Or better yet - once the Great Depression 2.0 hits, we all storm the halls of Congress and enshrine the concept of InfoSocialism into law?

If we're going under, then so is every last nation on the damn planet....

Weaver95: how about we just enslave them and use them to grow corn for us....?

Oh for god's sake! These are MBA types. They are lucky to even use a toilet correctly. When the zombies come, I'm sure as hell not wiping some MBA's butt!

Please. It's not like there's more than an SBPH of difference between metric and imperial anyway.

/might actually be obscure

Bob Down: They don't call it 'gas' either. It's Pétrõléûm Ðïstîllåtè

coke, keyboard, compensation, etc.

Got a call girl in Europe once. She said she only weighed 100, but the biatch was farking huge.

TMBGfreak Got a call girl in Europe once. She said she only weighed 100, but the biatch was farking huge.

100 Stone?!

eddyatwork: Weaver95: how about we just enslave them and use them to grow corn for us....?

Oh for god's sake! These are MBA types. They are lucky to even use a toilet correctly. When the zombies come, I'm sure as hell not wiping some MBA's butt!

Well, we can used them a meat shields againts the zombies.

/It's not like the don't have brains
//We need a brain to move about and make chirping and squeaking noises
///Right?

I lol'd, subby

well done!

Yakk: TMBGfreak Got a call girl in Europe once. She said she only weighed 100, but the biatch was farking huge.

100 Stone?!

She needed LOTS of cheesecake.

Weaver95: So basically, commodity speculation is going to end civilization as we know it.

Great.

After the Great Depression 2.0 hits, i'm gonna start a cult and go around cannabalizing all those dickwad investment bankers.

Sign me up.

helix400: Don't you know the Dewey Decimal System?

this thread is now officially awesome!

/yes, i get the reference
//hotdog in twinkie with ez cheese in milk for me!

TFA: French president Nicolas Sarkozy has called for European Union (EU) cuts in fuel sales taxes to help consumers, noting that as fuel prices have shot up, so has the tax take. But the EU objects. It argues this would drain public coffers and merely benefit oil producers.

I don't often agree with Sarkozy, but seems to me that this runs on the principle of a little of something is better than a lot of nothing. Seriously EU, if no one can afford to buy gas, your taxes are all for naught anyway.

Weaver95 So basically, commodity speculation is going to end civilization as we know it.

Actually, if they accelerate research into and adoption of non-fossil alternatives, commodity speculation could well save civilization as we (almost) know it.

Weaver95: So basically, commodity speculation is going to end civilization as we know it.

Great.

After the Great Depression 2.0 hits, i'm gonna start a cult and go around cannabalizing all those dickwad investment bankers.

Hell yes.

exactly, I was just thinking that this morning when I filled up for $3.89/gallon.


They use liters...so it'd be x Euros to the litre of petrol ;-)

bravo subby.

I paid £1.17 per liter a couple of weeks ago. £25 got me barely a quarter tank. It was nasty. Some places are up to £1.27.

/I quit driving
//taking the train
///the protests could get interesting
////REAL interesting

eddyatwork: Weaver95: i'm gonna start a cult and go around cannabalizing all those dickwad investment bankers.

You know, I thought you were cool. Seriously. I was all like, if society went to hell and the zombies came, I'd want to be with Weaver95. Now I'm not so sure. Seriously! You would eat a business major? No way. Even if I were starving, there is no way I'd eat an MBA because they are just evil. Conservatism in it's worst way possible.

Lawyers taste that way too.

Weaver95: So basically, commodity speculation is going to end civilization as we know it.

Great.

After the Great Depression 2.0 hits, i'm gonna start a cult and go around cannabalizing all those dickwad investment bankers.

Make sure you do not leave out all the retirees living off pensions which are heavily invested in stocks like Exxon or any of the other evil oil companies. They are living off the destruction of society as well. Also all of the people who have a portfolio containing these stocks are also profiting off the suffering of the people. In fact everyone who owns any of this stock should be punished for not demanding less money so drivers can have cheaper gas. The fact that China and India, two huge population centers, are demanding more and more gas everyday and production has not risen to meet demand means nothing. It must just be a convenient excuse. What is really important here is that some people might have less disposable income, and car companies will make more fuel efficient vehicles to match consumer demand for such products. We cannot have that. That would be the downfall of society... Or maybe we encourage more drilling and make more refineries, then there would be an increase in oil supply which might be able to keep up with the demand. Even better maybe we become more environmentally conscious and drive smaller more efficient cars and ride our bikes or walk more which would be good for our bodies and their earth. Maybe a company will come along and sell us a viable alternative to the gas powered car and they will become very very rich in return for their contribution to society.

I guess it is a flip of the coin.

$8/gallon? How much is taxes, and how much is the cost of the product?

Weaver95: So basically, commodity speculation is going to end civilization as we know it.

Great.

After the Great Depression 2.0 hits, i'm gonna start a cult and go around cannabalizing all those dickwad investment bankers.

ICE ICE baby

Quit your biatching, gasoline in Europe costs the same or cheaper than in the USA. Do the math.

$8/gal minus $5.20/gal in taxes is $2.80.

In the USA, $4/gal minus $0.47/gal in taxes is $3.53.

If you want us to take you seriously, let's talk in more detail about your total tax burden (income, property, gas, whatever) compared to the USA, and the level of governmental services you get versus here.

Well played, Trebek.

jdmac: Make sure you do not leave out all the retirees living off pensions which are heavily invested in stocks like Exxon or any of the other evil oil companies. They are living off the destruction of society as well. Also all of the people who have a portfolio containing these stocks are also profiting off the suffering of the people. In fact everyone who owns any of this stock should be punished for not demanding less money so drivers can have cheaper gas. The fact that China and India, two huge population centers, are demanding more and more gas everyday and production has not risen to meet demand means nothing. It must just be a convenient excuse. What is really important here is that some people might have less disposable income, and car companies will make more fuel efficient vehicles to match consumer demand for such products. We cannot have that. That would be the downfall of society... Or maybe we encourage more drilling and make more refineries, then there would be an increase in oil supply which might be able to keep up with the demand. Even better maybe we become more environmentally conscious and drive smaller more efficient cars and ride our bikes or walk more which would be good for our bodies and their earth. Maybe a company will come along and sell us a viable alternative to the gas powered car and they will become very very rich in return for their contribution to society.

None of that has anything at all to do with ICE leveraged futures trading in London which accounts for as much as 60% of the cost of Petrol at the pumps in Europe.

We in the US have our own gravy sucking leveraged future pirates doing the same here. Theit standard bearer and ringleader is Sachs-Goldman. Not Exxon. The more you k=now.

Bbbbbut....Europeans LIKE their $8/gal gas!

(At least that's what I'm hearing in every thread complaining about the high cost of gas in the USA)

Why not just learn to live and be happy with less?

/it's a small world, after all.

Rootus is right about the math...

Something else to take into account is that public transportation is much more sophisticated and available in Europe (as in you can cross countries on public transportation); only the most remote areas have issues. Not only does local public transportation far outshine anything in the US, the mass rail system in Europe makes the US rail system look like it was just built.

In the US, unless you live in a large city on the scale of New York, Chicago, San Francisco, Washington DC (which has an awesome public transportation system), et al; public transportation is virtually non-existent. I know here in Illinois, that once you get South of Chicago, the only cities with 100% public transit systems (buses - not rail) are Champaign-Urbana, Kankakee, Springfield, Decatur, and Carbondale. All others are for senior/disabled citizens. The only rail service to areas outside of Chicago is Amtrak, and it has only 5 lines through IL, 3 of them going SW. Therefore, in almost all areas of the state of Illinois, a majority of the population relies on vehicles for 100% of their transportation needs. Even out here in the suburbs, you have to have a car to get to the METRA stations - since PACE bus service sucks, even in the 2nd largest city in Illinois, Aurora.

So, while owning and driving an automobile in Europe is considered a luxury for most of the people, here in the US it is a necessity.

FTFA:Ultimately, governments may prosper from sitting tight. Some analysts see oil prices falling in the next couple of years, easing conditions for consumers.

Cool! I have just enough money saved up to last that long.

jeffknight: Rootus is right about the math...

Something else to take into account is that public transportation is much more sophisticated and available in Europe (as in you can cross countries on public transportation); only the most remote areas have issues. Not only does local public transportation far outshine anything in the US, the mass rail system in Europe makes the US rail system look like it was just built.

In the US, unless you live in a large city on the scale of New York, Chicago, San Francisco, Washington DC (which has an awesome public transportation system), et al; public transportation is virtually non-existent. I know here in Illinois, that once you get South of Chicago, the only cities with 100% public transit systems (buses - not rail) are Champaign-Urbana, Kankakee, Springfield, Decatur, and Carbondale. All others are for senior/disabled citizens. The only rail service to areas outside of Chicago is Amtrak, and it has only 5 lines through IL, 3 of them going SW. Therefore, in almost all areas of the state of Illinois, a majority of the population relies on vehicles for 100% of their transportation needs. Even out here in the suburbs, you have to have a car to get to the METRA stations - since PACE bus service sucks, even in the 2nd largest city in Illinois, Aurora.

So, while owning and driving an automobile in Europe is considered a luxury for most of the people, here in the US it is a necessity.

I wont go to the rant that I did last week but we might have a better public transport system in Europe but certainly its not convient. For me to be content with public transport to get to me to and from work (if I had a choice - on provisional at the moment due to stupid examiners) I would have to be paying a heck of a lot more for petrol.

The only city that really has good enough public transport if you dont work right in the centre of the city and live near the public transport links is London. otherwise you spend at least twice or three times the time communiting to and from work. And thats if it turns up at all...

I am only talking about the UK here though. Not enough knowledge to comment on anywhere else.

Smidgen of Pidgeon?

$3.45? For a gallon of gas in the US?

The lowest I've seen is $3.89


Honestly, I left this country and gas was at $2.61. I come back four months later and it tops out at $4


I can't leave you farkers alone for a second

Model share for land passenger transport (% of passenger KM)

fernandez: $3.45? For a gallon of gas in the US?

The lowest I've seen is $3.89


Honestly, I left this country and gas was at $2.61. I come back four months later and it tops out at $4


I can't leave you farkers alone for a second

Don't look at me, I pay 3.00 a gallon for biodiesel and people look at me like I'm stupid. Go figger.

I like how the US is listed as #108. Paying about $4.80/gallon here in Ottawa, Canada.

Europe taxes the hell out of gas to pay for it's socialist programs.If Obama or Hillary gets universal heath care passed then the U.S. will also have $8 gas and a 50% rate on capital gains.

Rootus: Quit your biatching, gasoline in Europe costs the same or cheaper than in the USA. Do the math.

$8/gal minus $5.20/gal in taxes is $2.80.

In the USA, $4/gal minus $0.47/gal in taxes is $3.53.

If you want us to take you seriously, let's talk in more detail about your total tax burden (income, property, gas, whatever) compared to the USA, and the level of governmental services you get versus here.

Can't argue with that. Some government and local institutions here are pretty well thought out, some aren't. But on a whole, we're paying through the nose to have them.

32.75% tax on income (where I live, at my income level)
25% VAT on almost everything except services, books and food (which is 6-12%)
And about 85% of the gas price is tax. And VAT on tax.

/sucks