I'd fall for it in an unjust world.

/Being that we do live in an unjust world, and nobody gives a shiat... I'd ask for 27-32 pieces of photo ID, then taser and waterboard the biatch, just to be sure before i farked her!

Presuming facts stated are correct and were known at trial, this guy's lawyer FAILED.

How about the girls get in trouble for lying about their age, not the guys for not knowing the girl's age?

Clbe: Presuming facts stated are correct and were known at trial, this guy's lawyer FAILED.

I wouldn't say so. Justice prevailed for all the reasons that were set out for to begin with. The sad part is that there are no harsh punishments for this little sushi-bar's actions.

entrapment.

the guy who falls for it is guilty of a crime,

but so too is the entrapper.

she should be sent to juvy, or house arrest with an ankle bracelet tag, and that myspace page deleted.

a hot legal and willing woman is going to draw guys in, like yelling fire in a theater will draw guys out...

/betcha when she legal age she claims rape on guys to extort money.
//im only mad cause id fall for it too.
///mental note to ask for id first.

I knew a girl who when we were 13 could easily be mistaken for 19. She was a brickhouse then and I've heard through the grapevine she still has good genes.

what a coont

she really doesn't look 13 in that pic.

also, a coont.

WHOOOOOOOORE!!!!

She's going to get killed. And I don't mind.

I also want to say to submitter...

DO NOT WANT.

Sometimes there's no justice in the law. This law was based on the assumption young girls are seduced into sex by older men. Sometimes the young girls are just sluts and look like they're of age.

/Always ask for ID before insertion.

WFTv , shouldn't that be WTFtv.

Yes, because in this case it is clearly the men at fault.

(To be fair, of course -- were there really NO warning signs? This is also a case of willful ignorance.)

That's a hard 13.

This is why I always, ALWAYS take my younger dates to a bar, music club, or other establishment which requires ID, usually ones in a casino. That way if it does turn out I've been defiling a 16-year-old with a fake ID I can not only say "I thought she was 18", I can also say "and so did the guy who ID'd her at the club we went to." If it's a casino club I can even subpoena the security tapes. Ignorance is no excuse, but if it's shown that you made a good-faith effort to determine if she was of legal age and had good reason to believe she was, you can't (at least in this state) be convicted of a crime. Shouldn't be anyway; "won't someone think of the children" can throw a monkey wrench in just about anything if the circumstances are right.

FTA:
Williams said he never did it again, but Dean has done it before with 24-year-old Darwin Mills. Mills was sentenced to five years in prison.

Dean's father wanted Williams to join Mills there.

Her AND her father need a serious beat-down!!! What a colossal prick! His whore of a daughter lied to these guys, and he's pissed at them???

Oh, and she still has her Myspace page. Nice parenting there, dickhead.

yukichigai

You are one sick bastard.

9/10

FredaDeStilleto: yukichigai

You are one sick bastard.

well... he has a point

A Father of the Year nomination for this guy:

"One of the reasons for the law is the fact that minors have poor judgment," said Jerry Dean, the girl's father.

FTA: Morris Williams...found out Tuesday that ignorance is not a defense.... her pictures are all over her MySpace page and they portray a sexy, 19-year-old divorced woman.

Call me confused. The guy wasn't 'ignorant' - he was deliberately misled. There is a difference.


Oh, and the trollop's father needs a really big dicksmack. Maybe if he disciplined his daughter... you know, like make her take down her slutty myspace page, or made sure she was in the house at a decent hour... this all wouldn't happen againt.

"One of the reasons for the law is the fact that minors have poor judgment," said Jerry Dean, the girl's father.

And it looks like at least one of them has a stunningly shiatty, lazy, worthless, dumbass father.

Wow I cant believe he actually called the police after the guy found out about her being so young and went to her father. Can this father be put in prison for raising a whore? I'd be beating my daughters' about the head with something heavy not calling the police on the guys she lied to.

/actually has two daughters about that age.

Since this guy has to go to jail for this, the twat should have to wear a chastity belt until she's 18. Solves all the problems. She can't ruin another guy's life until she's an adult.

Gwendolyn: Can this father be put in prison for raising a whore?

He should be charged with child endangerment (letting the little whore be a whore) and contributing to the delinquency of a minor (knowing letting her whore herself out) to start with. I'm sure there are other things the parents should be charged with.

ok, first- no sympathy for the assholes for sleeping with a 13 year old. If you can't tell the difference between 19 and 13, you really need help.

That said, this girl needs some serious punishment as well. This is, in a very real sense, predatory. She sought out these assholes and preyed on their stupidity.

Why is it only entrapment when it's a cop?

She lied to him persistently for weeks. There's not even a remote intent. In fact, he reflected integrity by talking to the father and ceased all contact with the daughter.

We shouldn't even have to mention that she's done this before, and has not changed or deleted the entrapping page.

When I was bartending, I'd only be handcuffed if I served the same kid twice after I knew his ID was fake. It was legal for me to serve someone if I did not have intent to serve a minor. It wasn't my job to be a pro at spotting fake IDs. I only needed a moderate common sense. It was a judgment call if they wanted to hammer me, such as I should know a toddler isnt legal to drink, regardless of ID, etc.

I'm not against the guy carding any girl who claims to be "barely legal". It's just that he had no intent. This is a crime that requires intent.

Manslaughter is different. You fight someone with hate in your eyes and it's your damn fault if they die in the fight. Same goes for running them over while drunk. You did something you knew to be bad and should pay the consequences should anything occur from your actions.

However, this guy had no bad intentions. You can argue that we didn't get the whole story. It doesn't matter, because I can speculate from an article that someone did what they did possibly because of El Nino, and it doesn't matter. This article reflects nothing but good intentions from the guy to abide by the law, and even stepped up when he thought the law has been compromised.

Again, I ask, why is it only entrapment when there is a cop involved?

SilentStrider: ok, first- no sympathy for the assholes for sleeping with a 13 year old. If you can't tell the difference between 19 and 13, you really need help.

I'm sorry, but some 13 year old girls look 19 and some 19 year old girls look 13. It is very hard to tell at times. The reason he was caught was because when he found out she was 13 he went to the girls father to let him know what she was doing. Does this sound like he knew she was 13 when he slept with her?

Just look at her picture, she doesn't look 13.

Razorwolf: We shouldn't even have to mention that she's done this before, and has not changed or deleted the entrapping page.

Actually she changed her page to say she is 16 now.

Link (new window)

No, that isn't a link to her myspace page, just a link to a story with more information about this case.

this girl sounds like a farking attention-whore and probably laughs at the suffering of those whose lives she has (and has yet to ruin).

This sounds like it is nothing new to her parents and they are farking retards for allowing her out of their sight.

she's probably setting it up for another schmuck right now.

this second guy appeared to have been sincere about his discovery, but the damage is done at that point. He's screwed.

she's a farking toxic plague and should be removed from existence.

FTA: Dean's family admits Alisha still stays out late and has yet to delete her misleading MySpace page.


They allow her to stay out late, knowing she's a whore? And they didn't MAKE her delete the Myspace page? They suck as parents.

Is there something in Myspace's ToS that prohibits this? why not have THEM pull the page?

Wow. We have discovered the Ultraslut.

Lay off the poor girl you insensitive pricks. Do you realize how many episode of Tila Tequila and The Real World she probably missed because of all this annoying court stuff?

This girl and her so-called "parents" should have a nice long talk with Chris Hansen about the dangers of going online for sex.

Or, send them to Maury Povich, and let the kid go to jail for a little while while D West works on the parents.

Hey, thirteen year old boys are BAD AT EATING PUSSY, okay?

We need to bring back drawing and quartering. Father and daughter both.

Someone needs to beat the living shiat out of this little trampy whore and her farking idiot parents.

I just finished re-reading Snow Crash, and the first that comes to mind when reading crap like this is tattooing the wankers' foreheads. Mom(if she is in the picture) and dad should have tats that say 'We suck at parenting.' The girl should have a forehead tattoo that says, 'underage slut.'

Of course that would be considered cruel and unusual, but damn it, it would be awesome.

Ryan2065: ok, first- no sympathy for the assholes for sleeping with a 13 year old. If you can't tell the difference between 19 and 13, you really need help.

I'm with SilentStrider on this. Both my older sister and her female partner in crime looked 19 with they were 13. Easily. These girls went from looking like little kids to grown women in about a year once puberty hit. They'd get into bars without too much trouble, and yes, from what I hear they'd be sleeping with guys in their 30's who'd buy them stuff (aka clothes and drugs). Every time my parents tried even the slightest discipline she'd be on the phone with child protective services claiming abuse. Me and the siblings were very happy the day she got taken into foster care, that girl was totally uncontrollable and way too farking smart to ever get the help she needed.

He should be ablr to sue her parents for damages.

according to state statutes her parent gets 6 months in jail and she's to be placed in protective custody in a foster home.

that's the law.

BOTH MEN CAN SUE HER FAMILY.

If that were my daughter, it would be like on "Married with Children" when Kelly walks up the stairs with the sleazy boyfriend, and Al immediately comes back down with the boyfriend in a headlock, then he bangs the boyfriend's head against a wall and throws him out the front door.

How did this not get to jury??? What ghetto lawyer did he hire?

The one thing I can never understand is why a 13 year old wants to fark these men who are nearly ten years older than them.

They always say that guys their age are "immature," which means they just want to fark, which is the same thing at any god damn age.

Ron Paul Revere: Hope the next guy she does that to kills her.

That guy should get a (honorary) free year of TotalFark for doing it too. Stupid coont and her family deserve to DIAF.

How about this: no one gets any punishment because no one was harmed.

A MySpace page is not considered a legal form of ID in most places... Most penises on the other hand...

ah3133: If that were my daughter, it would be like on "Married with Children" when Kelly walks up the stairs with the sleazy boyfriend, and Al immediately comes back down with the boyfriend in a headlock, then he bangs the boyfriend's head against a wall and throws him out the front door.

Good idea, except this guy is her father:

"One of the reasons for the law is the fact that minors have poor judgment," said Jerry Dean, the girl's father.