Your reference just chased me off your lawn, subby, and I'm old.

Hanna Barbera once planned on making a Dobie Gillis cartoon. The deal fell through and the character designs were used for Scooby Doo.

Maynard was a real cutie, didn't he grow up to be Gilligan?

It was on Nick at Nite, no lawn required.

Work!

Predictions:
Anticommie (R)s who will prematurely ejaculate on the way in here to bash teh FAILed commie system

Procommie (D and G)s who will rush in here to blame every president since Kennedy for not supporting the Little Workers Paradise That Could, and who will gush about Castro's splendid healthcare system.

And hopefully people posting pictures of Cuban hotties.

I hate to sound all "OMG CAPITALISAM IS TEH AWESOME! COMMIES SUX!", but this quote from the article,

``Don't you think people would prefer to have independence, to have something they can be proud of?'

makes it sound like the ordinary Cuban is ready for some free markets. It would be mutually beneficial for them and the US. Sad as it is, 50 years of economic stagnation has made their country a very desirable destination. Everything is still art deco, the cars are all classic Detroit metal...it really could be a resort paradise.

With awesome food.

This is why pure socialist systems will always fail. When you offer people the ability to sustain themselves indefinitely on government handouts, a lot of people are going to opt out of work. Does that mean that the government should never help the people? Absolutely not. The governments exist at the will of the people, and it should help its people. The line is drawn at indefinite help. Short-term help is and should always be acceptable, long-term help should not be acceptable, exempting of course cases of disabilites.

Now, the Portuguese, on the other hand...

/even had a couple of Japanese who worked out all right

Stupid American embargo keeping Cubans from working!!!!!

Maynard G. Who?

So Cubans are the new Puerto Ricans?

/Half-Puerto Rican
/Half-Iranian
/= too lazy to blow self up

Cubist Robot Party: With awesome food.

Pretty much beans and rice, according to friends who have visited.

If no one is working, why is it said they have such great medical care? :)

man, i had such a crush on maynard g. krebs when i was a kid.

/watched Dobie Gillis on nick at nite
//not old

Another country with citizens too lazy to do the lowpaying jobs? Someone tell Mexico!

Capitalism and socialism go hand in hand in rotating doses to make a functional society.

Communism is a failure beyond belief and was since ground zero.

No motivation, no economy. No social spending, no populace willing to support the capitalist infrastructure. Cuba's been a black market since Castro came ashore on Grandma. You can't expect people to work for a currency that's basically worth dried leaves. Somebody remind the fed of this.

'I am not going to tell you something different: there are jobs here in Cárdenas where I live. Doing what? Cleaning hospitals for 150 pesos ($7) a month,' said Loraicys, a single mom. ``For 150 pesos, I would rather stay home with my kid. I am willing to work really hard, but not for nothing in return.'

We should just hitch Cuba up to a pickup and drag it next to Mexico. Hell, they even speak Spanish!

umm . . .I don't know about the cubans, but I do know that the other guy mentioned in the headline bust his ass to make sure that every TOOL song is fantastic AND finds the time for side projects, most notably A Perfect Circle.

So let's hold off on the implications of laziness, okay?

0Icky0: Cubist Robot Party: With awesome food.

Pretty much beans and rice, according to friends who have visited.

Also, subsidized ice cream parlors.

Wow!

A reference for the Howdy Doody generation.

+1

NYZooMan: Wow!

A reference for the Howdy Doody generation.

+1

"WERerk!"

I Said: umm . . .I don't know about the cubans, but I do know that the other guy mentioned in the headline bust his ass to make sure that every TOOL song is fantastic AND finds the time for side projects, most notably A Perfect Circle.

So let's hold off on the implications of laziness, okay?



I don't see a resemblance.

:)

This is what always happens when you separate production from income.

Bermuda59: Another country with citizens too lazy to do the lowpaying jobs? Someone tell Mexico!

I came here to make a comment about sending them some Mexicans but I see you've got it under control.

/Nothing to see here. Move along.

I Said: umm . . .I don't know about the cubans, but I do know that the other guy mentioned in the headline bust his ass to make sure that every TOOL song is fantastic....

China has proved that a government can be communist while having a free market.

/kind of like how the GOP is 'conservative'

The Billdozer: I Said: umm . . .I don't know about the cubans, but I do know that the other guy mentioned in the headline bust his ass to make sure that every TOOL song is fantastic....

The guy in Tool is named "Maynard."

Well, if Raul is going to sit there in that wheelbarrow, why shouldn't I?

I came in here for a picture of Maynard G. Krebs and the resulting confusion that ensued.

Definitely not disapointed.

/carry on.

TMBGfreak: China has proved that a government can be communist while having a free market./kind of like how the GOP is 'conservative'

They both like monitoring your internet use and phone calls and prosecuting fags too... They also like letting companies pollute and mistreat workers because it's good business.

Though I guess they differ on the value of "Christian" theocracy.

I think a political party in a democracy should aim higher than that, however.

I Said: umm . . .I don't know about the cubans, but I do know that the other guy mentioned in the headline bust his ass to make sure that every TOOL song is fantastic AND finds the time for side projects, most notably A Perfect Circle.

So let's hold off on the implications of laziness, okay?

Maynard's the man.

So why is cuba not being swarmed with illegal mexicans?

Warm climate year round, basics are covered by the Federales, and hot cuban ladies. Working your life away for things you don't really need or drinking on the beach; what is the problem exactly?

/unemployed

Polyhazard: The Billdozer: I Said: umm . . .I don't know about the cubans, but I do know that the other guy mentioned in the headline bust his ass to make sure that every TOOL song is fantastic....

The guy in Tool is named "Maynard."

No, its the fact that he said every Tool song was "Fantastic".

Ah, socialism.

Whatever.

I still prefer to go on vacation in Cuba over anywhere else in the world.

In fact, I'm going back in 2 weeks, so I'm getting a kick out of this thread.

The Krebs cycle????

Florida's future welfare recipients!

That article painted Cubans in a capitalistic light, showing that the faith they have in their government is increasing because it's shifting from everyone share everything to you get what you earn.
/just sayin'

CaptainWes: The Krebs cycle????

This is what I thought, too. I have no clue who Maynard G. Krebs is.

CaptainWes: The Krebs cycle???

I tried to think of a joke about that but didn't get anywhere.

Instead, here's a different tack: Carrying around those holy relics and that big book gives you quite a workout.

Best darn description for a story yet- loved the obscure reference to an old TV character. Laughed at both the reference and the fact that probably very few would get it.

Complete bullshait! Those cigars don't make themselves.

We need to keep up the pressure! The Castro regime will crumble ANY...MINUTE...NOW.

*more importantly* does this mean that about $5000 is enough savings to RETIRE in Cuba ? Is Raul going to open up the borders?

poor American = filthy rich Cuban?

/I'm rich, biatch!

Why should they work...they have the government taking "care" of them, giving them just enough to survive, but that's it.
That is the whole problem with socialism. Why should you bust your ass to make your life better, when it won't do you any good.

sneako: man, i had such a crush on maynard g. krebs when i was a kid.

/watched Dobie Gillis on nick at nite
//not old

Man, I had such a crush on Thalia Menninger when I was a kid.




/watched it on the network
//old
///OFF MY DAMN LAWN!

Dull Cow Eyes: Is Raul going to open up the borders?

The Cuban border is open to most countries. Apparently, if you are American, yr government would prefer that you didn't (and will prosecute you if you do) have dealings there.

PS. The food there really does suck, people are friendly, and support their president even though the system obviously doesn't work. Much like Ohio.

dahmers love zombie: Predictions:
Anticommie (R)s who will prematurely ejaculate on the way in here to bash teh FAILed commie system

We've known the Cuban system of socialism has been a complete failure for many decades. So I'm not sure why anyone would be in such a rush to bash just because of this one article. It's not like everyone thought Cuba was doing fabulous up until this article was written. The refugees coming here in bathtubs and rafts kinda tell the story. You know?

Here's another clue for you - you don't have to be a far right wing Bush worshiper to realize that Cuba's government is socially oppressive and an economic failure. A lot of democrats and centrists (at least the ones with a shred of common sense) realize it as well. It's kind of like observing that the sky is blue. Doesn't have to be a partisan thing. Except for complete wingnuts like Micheal Moore. And perhaps yourself.