50/50

muahahahahaha!

here we go again!

Hillary has a stupid face.

Damn. Got what I asked for, and it cost me my post.

*DAMN YOU, IRONY!!!*

It's not often we burn out a thread like that. Methinks this issue is near and dear to a lot of us.

Part Two: Electric Boogaloo

Murkanen

And yet, tossing out (il)logical arguments that even my 3 yea

Thats because, in your view simply applying the label of illogic without making any points or making the same points over and over
again is good enough.

The conversation had been going in circles. It is still my view that stripping a state of its delegates and participation rights is a nuclear option that should never be employed. Not now, not in the future. I would bet, regardless of the outcome of this committee, and the nomination - that the DNC will come up with a new method of enforcement as they should.

Sadly, the raving supporters would rather win the nomination without the voice of 2 nationally important swing states, and hope for the best or stake our chances in November by relying on so called roads to victory that have never actually been demonstrated.

They're going to come back with a decision, I know it

here's some meat for the obama cultists:

CSPAN now reminding us that no matter who the DNC nominates, it will still be better than Bush. Puts it in perspective.

captain_napalm: fair? HAHAHAHA. fair to whom and based on what? votes from other states? PC pandering?

Everybody's calling you a troll, but what the heck, I haven't tried talking to you yet.

Since you use the word fair, do you think you can honestly come up with a proposal that's fair? Not what you want, or what'll help Hillary, but would be objectively fair. What would someone who has absolutely no emotional, historial or political investment in this entire issue (say, an academic from another country who's studied our system) say would be actually fair?

Just a little experiment to see what you're response is. I'm expecting a baseless, crazy reaction with a "HAHAHAHAHA" thrown in their somewhere, but who knows, I might be surprised.

How long till the committee restarts?

whats this crap? closed doors meeting now?

I hate closed-door political meetings. I bet they're just doing that so Clinton can save face.

>:-(

Is this thread doing weird things, or is it just me?

Help, Captain Napalm! Where are you troll us when we need you?

Thank you, modmins.

this is bullshiat.

Cyborg77: CSPAN now reminding us that no matter who the DNC nominates, it will still be better than Bush. Puts it in perspective.

I'm no longer certain, in all honesty, that Hillary Clinton will be better than Bushiatruly mean that, it's not me trolling or just hating on Clinton. Everything I've seen her do lately makes me terribly frightened of the thought of her with Executive Authority.

captain_napalm: here's some meat for the obama cultists:

"Hillary Clinton Army"?

/stand down, troops

captain_napalm: here's some meat for the obama cultists:

El oh el MySpace troll.

My mother just informed me that if she had to vote today, she would vote for Obama. She is part of that twenty-something percent that still supports Bush. I'm in shock but it's a good kind of shock.

captain_napalm: here's some meat for the obama cultists:

Please stop shiatting all over the thread. You are amusing no one but yourself.

But that's probably all you care about.

Welp -- it is early (in the 2nd thread) and Rovian is already make a play to join Suicide Writer on my ignore list.

and to think ndotseth said in the Boobies on that thread everyone would go back to bed. shows how much he knows. I'm amazed at the interest myself. It's encouraging.

Barbara Boxer is the worst speaker I've ever heard.

DrowningLessons: Since you use the word fair, do you think you can honestly come up with a proposal that's fair? Not what you want, or what'll help Hillary, but would be objectively fair.

either:

(A) award them properly, according to the final vote and the "weighted" nonsense formula y'all use everywhere

-or-

(B) option (A) x 0.5/0.75/0.7, some sort of agreed-upon metric.

-or-

(C) toss them all

Rovian: The conversation had been going in circles. It is still my view that stripping a state of its delegates and participation rights is a nuclear option that should never be employed. Not now, not in the future. I would bet, regardless of the outcome of this committee, and the nomination - that the DNC will come up with a new method of enforcement as they should.

Probably true. Nobody ever expected a sociopath like Hillary to run for office. The DNC assumed that the insane people wouldn't actually GET this far and the rules reflected that bias.

Sadly, the raving supporters would rather win the nomination without the voice of 2 nationally important swing states, and hope for the best or stake our chances in November by relying on so called roads to victory that have never actually been demonstrated.

So if I stuff the ballot box in favor of my pet candidate, does that election still count?

Weaver95: It's not often we burn out a thread like that. Methinks this issue is near and dear to a lot of us.

Yes, we have quite a few unfortunate FAS windowlickers who are REALLY concerned that their votes are being stolen. "Rules? What rules? So she agreed to the rules, SOOOO? HE JUST DIDN'T WANT TO COMPETE." God I wish I could stomp my feet and leave the party and find one that doesn't depend on a base that doesn't understand how to follow directions. I had to push the button ALL THE WAY DOWN? Gore was the OTHER BUTTON? What do you mean this election doesn't count, YOU'RE STEALING MY VOTE!

Oh, I am so voting out Boxer now. WTF? Quoting the bible?

like I said earlier, if Obama was smart (and he's not), he'd give hillary everything she wants and remove her basis for further complaining. and if y'all were smart (and you're not), you'd champion that course of action.

as it stands, she won't get all she wants, and will use that as a rallying cry.

Clinton supporters: "Can we do this in secret? SHE'LL KILL US."

Result: a rational decision.

Please people, STOP quoting people who are obviously being ignored, it means we still get subjected to their comments.

WillyShwonka: Barbara Boxer is the worst speaker I've ever heard.

But but but they were just playing Bush's radio address on C-SPAN!

AgentTofu: Help, Captain Napalm! Where are you

I'm cooking meat over charcoal. you pantywaist libs wouldn't know much about that.

Did anyone notice that the speakers for Hillary's campaign were mostly senators while Obama's advocates were house reps?

Party Boy: whats this crap? closed doors meeting now?

well you didn't really think that they were going to discuss any of this in open view of us little people, did you?

They'll cut a deal, snort some coke, sacrifice Chelsea to a Greater Daemon of Khorne and split the delegates evenly between Obama and Hillary.

And on we go to the convention....

captain_napalm: like I said earlier, if Obama was smart (and he's not), he'd give hillary everything she wants and remove her basis for further complaining.

That is retarded as fark, since it leaves no precedent to discipline retarded states that pull this shiat in the future, farktard.

Either they're hammering out a deal or the committee all ordered some bad kimchi.

I say count em. Hillary is so close.

On Wed. 6 June 2007 23:35:23 - 0500 Colonel Harry Riley , USA , Ret. wrote:

Senators:
Your vote against an amendment to the Immigration Bill 1348....to make English America 's official language is astounding.

On D-Day, no less, when we honor those that sacrificed in order to secure the bedrock, character and principles of America , I can only surmise your vote reflects a loyalty to illegal aliens.

I don't much care where you come from. What your religion is. Whether you're black, white, or some other color...male or female...... Democrat, Republican or Independent. ...... But I do care when you are a United States Senator representing Citizens of America ....and Vote against English as the official language of the United States

Your vote reflects Betrayal.
Political Surrender. Violates Your Pledge of Allegiance. Dishonors historical principle. Rejects Patriotism. Borders on traitorous action and, in my opinion, makes you unfit to serve as a United States Senator... Impeachment... Recall... Or other appropriate action is warranted or worse.

Four of you voting against English as America 's Official Language are Presidential Candidates: Senator Biden,Senator Clinton,Senator Dodd, and Senator Obama.

Four Senators vying to lead America, but won't or Don't have t! he courage to cast a vote in favor of 'English' as A merica 's Official Language when 91% of American Citizens want English officially designated as our language.

This is the second time in the last several months this list of Senators have disgraced themselves as 'political Hacks'..... Unworthy as Senators and certainly unqualified to serve as President of the United States

If America is as angry as I am, you wil! l realize a backlash so stunning it will literally 'rock you out of your panties'.... ..... And preferably totally out of the United States Senate.

The entire immigration bill is a farce... Your action only confirms this really isn't about America ....it is about self-serving politics.... ..despicable at best.


It has been said:

'Never Argue with an Idiot....They' ll drag you down to their level!'



********************************
PRESIDENT ABRAHAM LINCOLN

'Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage morale and undermine the military are saboteurs and should be arrested,
exiled or Hanged!!!

Aaaaannnd we're back.

WEaver


So if I stuff the ballot box in favor of my pet candidate, does that election still count?

I hadn't heard any accusation of vote stuffing until now. It is pointless to over complicate an already complicated issue.

Nobody ever expected a sociopath like

Aren't you supposed to be a supporter of the candidate that says its ok to disagree without being disagreeable?

UNC_Samurai: Did anyone notice that the speakers for Hillary's campaign were mostly senators while Obama's advocates were house reps?

now that you mention it, I do.

what do you make of that?

gilgigamesh: captain_napalm: here's some meat for the obama cultists:

Please stop shiatting all over the thread. You are amusing no one but yourself.

But that's probably all you care about.

stop feeding

Shrugging Atlas:I'm lost on a 15 minute reflection of the sublime greatness that is Nina Hartley's ass.

And you're complaining?

UNC_Samurai: Did anyone notice that the speakers for Hillary's campaign were mostly senatorsasshats while Obama's advocates were house reps making logical statements?

ftfy

Tacoby Bellisbury: I say count em. Hillary is so close.

Only if every remaining uncommitted superdelegate goes to her.

And that won't happen.

AgentTofu: That is retarded as fark, since it leaves no precedent to discipline retarded states that pull this shiat in the future, farktard.

as if that would even matter? they're gonna change things anyway. oh and your mature candor is appreciated.