But Obama is unelectable!!!

"There is a large block of Republicans, particularly economic conservatives, who just feel that the Republican Party in Washington completely let them down" by failing to control spending and address other problems, Corrado said.

That's because the last fluttery pulse beat of economic conservatism left within the almost-dead shell of the Republican Party expired the moment George W. Bush slouched into office.

as nice as this is, its probably more a calculated move to get in on the ground floor than anything else.

flavor of the month: as nice as this is, its probably more a calculated move to get in on the ground floor than anything else.

Well so much for the electability argument, then. If Republican donors think Obama is a likely winner, and act with cash, it kind of cuts the legs out from under the Clinton people.

He should reject and denounce these contributions as he does with those from lobbyists.

Cyborg77: He should reject and denounce these contributions as he does with those from lobbyists.

Being a major financial donor to the Bush campaign(s) or the RNC does not inherently make one evil or corrupt.

/srsly

Closing tags is for suckers.

Cyborg77: He should reject and denounce these contributions as he does with those from lobbyists.

Yes, because the best way to unify the nation and show broad electability is to pull blatant partisan moves like saying "EW! NO! NOT FROM STINKY CONSERVATIVES!".

All those people who donated money into Bush the last 2 elections. I wonder how they feel about the way their past investments now.

Is the amount of money commiserate with what they were giving to Bush?

Many of the donors are likely "moderate Republicans or independents who are dissatisfied with the direction of the country now and are looking for change," said Anthony Corrado, a government professor at Colby College in Maine who specializes in campaign finance.

"There is a large block of Republicans, particularly economic conservatives, who just feel that the Republican Party in Washington completely let them down" by failing to control spending and address other problems, Corrado said. "The Republicans have really given these donors no reason to give."

That's like saying God has let you down so now you're going to give Satan a try.

Duh, he is working for the same people so of course the money comes from the same place.

Cyborg77: He should reject and denounce these contributions as he does with those from lobbyists.

Why?

Pocket Ninja: "There is a large block of Republicans, particularly economic conservatives, who just feel that the Republican Party in Washington completely let them down" by failing to control spending and address other problems, Corrado said.

That's because the last fluttery pulse beat of economic conservatism left within the almost-dead shell of the Republican Party expired the moment George W. Bush slouched into office.

Which is why they want Obama to win. They realize he'll be a disaster and make Bush look good. They hope that Obama's disasterous administration (and Democrat-controlled Congress) will be the spanking the Republicans need & maybe next time they'll run conservatives. That's the hope for 2012...decent candidates.

jjorsett: Many of the donors are likely "moderate Republicans or independents who are dissatisfied with the direction of the country now and are looking for change," said Anthony Corrado, a government professor at Colby College in Maine who specializes in campaign finance.

"There is a large block of Republicans, particularly economic conservatives, who just feel that the Republican Party in Washington completely let them down" by failing to control spending and address other problems, Corrado said. "The Republicans have really given these donors no reason to give."

That's like saying God has let you down so now you're going to give Satan a try.

I have to admit, that made me laugh.

jjorsett: Many of the donors are likely "moderate Republicans or independents who are dissatisfied with the direction of the country now and are looking for change," said Anthony Corrado, a government professor at Colby College in Maine who specializes in campaign finance.

"There is a large block of Republicans, particularly economic conservatives, who just feel that the Republican Party in Washington completely let them down" by failing to control spending and address other problems, Corrado said. "The Republicans have really given these donors no reason to give."

That's like saying God has let you down so now you're going to give Satan a try.

Not exactly. But if you want to give "God" a lesson to shape up, then yeah.

That's cool. But it's amazing how boring this whole thing has become.

Anyone But Hillary?

Once he wins the nomination he's about to get a shiat load more money as well.

pvd021: All those people who donated money into Bush the last 2 elections. I wonder how they feel about the way their past investments now.

If you can't afford the loss from the occasional bad investment, you shouldn't be investing.

Atillathepun: But Obama is unelectable!!!

He is unelectable

flavor of the month: as nice as this is, its probably more a calculated move to get in on the ground floor than anything else.

Bingo, its called playing both sides of the fence, problem is mccain is going to get more votes than people think from the hillary supporters and win this election big. Obama has gotten killed in most states that are must wins for dems and nothing has swayed those states to him yet, in fact hes losing ground in must win states.

But hey obama supporters can keep thinking hes going to win if they want to, canada better brace for an influx of citizenship papers.

glassa: That's the hope for 2012...decent candidates.

We can hope but we wont get it, both sides are corrupt and will do/say anything to stay in power, it still amazes me that people think democrats are any better than republicans.

Obama's a clean slate, and the powers that be have lots of chalk at the ready.

And this long-time right wing Republican activist Farkette donated money to the Obama campaign. No conniving or anything, I just think he'll be the better president.

steamingpile:

~sigh~

Where to begin?

He is unelectable

Perhaps - in your CD.

As JAFO (an outsider at that), i am endlessly amazed how far today's Republicans have strayed from Lincoln's intent and ideals while shamelessly claiming to still be "The Party of Lincoln".

I mean... just... WOW.

Bingo, its called playing both sides of the fence, problem is mccain is going to get more votes than people think from the hillary supporters and win this election big. Obama has gotten killed in most states that are must wins for dems and nothing has swayed those states to him yet, in fact hes losing ground in must win states.
But hey obama supporters can keep thinking hes going to win if they want to, canada better brace for an influx of citizenship papers.

What's the problem - McCain should have money problems like this?

Yes, the soulless corporations can see The Text On The Screen, an are beginning to respond the only way they know how. What else can they do? It is far more impressive that money is coming from so many non-traditional supporters that The Candidate's Financial Disclosure Forms have literally chocked the system.

Again, McCain should have such problems, huh?

As vicious as the primary cycle can be (and i've been watchin' y'all, from a safe distance i might add, since JFK's funeral) hillary has nothing to gain (really) by dividing the party now and she's obviously smart enough to know it. The change in her tone this last week tends to verify that, donchathink?

BTW, our American Cousins are always welcome up here but you and like-mindeds may find our political spectrum beyond their comprehension. In fact, with any luck, we'll be tossin' out the current minority Conservatives soon enough over their attempts to influence your election process while being the moral arbiters for the nation.

Can you imagine the audacity that takes?

Oh, yah... nevermind.

Nonetheless, the "Sea-Change" metaphor may be appropriate for what is happening this year. While there will forever be an "Conservative/Faithist" element within both parties, its influence is already diminishing (remember the '06 midterms?).

I cannot presume to speak for all snowbacks (yah, i used the "S-Word" - get over it), i know many long for the return of sincere idealism to your public life, as opposed to the recent group of self-serving, lawless, hypocritical international criminals the entire world has had to tolerate these last eight sad years.

Now, i'm probably more cynical than most, but Barry O'Bama has some essential kernel of honesty that always shapes the man. It's truly regrettable you cannot see that, given your proximity and stakes in this election.

Barry... Barry O'Bama. I like it.

Anyhow, enjoy the show!

I guess that makes a lot of sense. The aim of political donations is to donate as much money as possible to the winner, and Obama will pretty much win this election.

I guess in a way Obama may well reach a tipping point where his campaign is making huge money and McCain is running out.

flavor of the month: as nice as this is, its probably more a calculated move to get in on the ground floor than anything else.

Why complain. Take their money now, and kick them in the ass later, I always say.

CanuckAmok: Perhaps - in your CD.

As JAFO (an outsider at that), i am endlessly amazed how far today's Republicans have strayed from Lincoln's intent and ideals while shamelessly claiming to still be "The Party of Lincoln".

I mean... just... WOW.

Yeah and you could say the same for democratic party leaders, whats your point?

Mccain is going to be elected and obama isnt going to come close to winning, hes going to lose quite a few democratic states that they have to win while losing every republican state.

CanuckAmok: Now, i'm probably more cynical than most, but Barry O'Bama has some essential kernel of honesty that always shapes the man. It's truly regrettable you cannot see that, given your proximity and stakes in this election.

What stakes? I thought the worlds main ideal was to get clinton or bush out this office if thats the case then it will happen since there isnt a bush running and hillary isnt going to get the nomination.

Gyrfalcon: Why complain. Take their money now, and kick them in the ass later, I always say.

Thats not how it works, they give money then get kickbacks later, obama is no different than any other nominee.

Is it just me, or did Fark get an infusion of (conservative) nutcases commenting in the politics threads over the last few days???

steamingpile: Mccain is going to be elected and obama isnt going to come close to winning, hes going to lose quite a few democratic states that they have to win while losing every republican state.

Your magic crystal ball, I'd like to see it.

steamingpile Mccain is going to be elected and obama isnt going to come close to winning, hes going to lose quite a few democratic states that they have to win while losing every republican state.

It amuses me that you state things like this with so much force and certainty, it is almost as if you didn't pay attention at all to either party's nomination process. I mean look at how many states were supposed to go one direction but ended up vastly different. Around Feb and March it was laughable, the networks would show a poll taken the day before a state primary, and then the next day it would be a shocking change. John McCain was dead in the water, remember ? Less than a year ago people would have laughed at the idea of John McCain as the republican nominee. Same thing on the other side as well. Obama? He was off the radar.

With all that has happened, and all that potentially will happen for the next 6 months, how silly do you have to be to get up on a soapbox and declare with certainty how things will go, even to the detail of suggesting which way states will go.

Do you know with CERTAINTY that Virginia will go red? Or will it go blue? Or can you be honest with yourself and the rest of us for just one minute and admit that like almost everyone else, you really don't have a clue because this race has broken all expectations. I'm not saying that I know any more than the next person, but I am calling you out because neither do you.

As I said in another thread somewhere (perhaps not even on Fark)

Republicans would rather Mccain go against Obama rather than Hillary. Just a new page from Political Dirty Tricks 101.



/my opinion
//everyones entitled to it.

Gyrfalcon: flavor of the month: as nice as this is, its probably more a calculated move to get in on the ground floor than anything else.

Why complain. Take their money now, and kick them in the ass later, I always say.

What. Is. WRONG. With. You... PEOPLE?!?

Who is financing Barry O'Bama? (new window)

Krayon: Your magic crystal ball, I'd like to see it.

I dont need one all you need are statistics.

Theseus: Do you know with CERTAINTY that Virginia will go red? Or will it go blue? Or can you be honest with yourself and the rest of us for just one minute and admit that like almost everyone else, you really don't have a clue because this race has broken all expectations. I'm not saying that I know any more than the next person, but I am calling you out because neither do you.

Yes I do know that, have you not paid attention the past 30 years?
Obama will not win a single southern state no matter what people may think and he wont win most of the must win dem states, has anyone not been paying attention? Hillary won those states handily and most of her supporters want her and if they dont they wont vote or will got mccain since hes closest to her which is the main reason repubs dont like him. But they will vote since they dont have a choice.

CanuckAmok: Gyrfalcon: flavor of the month: as nice as this is, its probably more a calculated move to get in on the ground floor than anything else.

Why complain. Take their money now, and kick them in the ass later, I always say.

What. Is. WRONG. With. You... PEOPLE?!?

Who is financing Barry O'Bama? (new window)

Whats great is you actually believe that individuals are what is driving his campaign in this time of economic stress, Im sure that nobody is getting money to his campaign through his biggest donors which are lawyers.

Jesus just like people believed bush is still a great president the other side actually think obama isnt in the pockets of lobbyist groups. Even if you think hes not, he is still part of the bigger problem in that hes part of one of the two parties that have farked us for 40 years.

People are definitely sheep.

steamingpile:

...Whats great is you actually believe that individuals are what is driving his campaign in this time of economic stress, Im sure that nobody is getting money to his campaign through his biggest donors which are lawyers.

Jesus just like people believed bush is still a great president the other side actually think obama isnt in the pockets of lobbyist groups. Even if you think hes not, he is still part of the bigger problem in that hes part of one of the two parties that have farked us for 40 years.

People are definitely sheep.

...and you are living up to your handle there, steamingpile. You may want to look up cognitive dissonance, because you keep proving that you are embodying it.

No doubt even farkin' Lawyers yearn for the return of Rule of Law enough to vote with their bucks.

After all, isn't this how things are done in America?

Donor Demographics, Barry O'Bama (new window)

Patron List, John (Son of) Cain (new window)

Good Day, I say Good Day to you, troll.

CanuckAmok:

Have you considered that steamingpile might not be too fond of either camp? He did say "both sides are corrupt and will do/say anything to stay in power, it still amazes me that people think democrats are any better than republicans."

Sorry to both CanuckAmok and steamingpile if my assumption is wrong, or I've said something without knowing something I should know.

Wow. A couple of hundred Bush donors (out of tens of thousands) have contributed to the Obama campaign. That's real big news - or not.

steamingpile: Mccain is going to be elected and obama isnt going to come close to winning, hes going to lose quite a few democratic states that they have to win while losing every republican state.

"Well, my days of not taking you seriously are certainly comin' to a middle."

They are hedging their bet - that's what they ALWAYS do.

/farking duh!

CurvedGirdle: CanuckAmok:

Have you considered that steamingpile might not be too fond of either camp? He did say "both sides are corrupt and will do/say anything to stay in power, it still amazes me that people think democrats are any better than republicans."

Sorry to both CanuckAmok and steamingpile if my assumption is wrong, or I've said something without knowing something I should know.

It was steamingpile's monolithic cynicism i needed to dispute. Whatever his reasons are (and no doubt he has many), this cynicism has rendered him incapable of hope and it seems to have affected his ability to reason as well.

Isn't that sad?

jebusfreak: Is it just me, or did Fark get an infusion of (conservative) nutcases commenting in the politics threads over the last few days???

I honestly think Fark has been invaded by H44.

/great post admin!