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The idea that someone could despise Hillary for her horrific personality and terrible decisions just never occured to these people, did it?

There it is America - pure evil, straight from the 8th dimension.

The Democrat Party is an architect of racism. Reverse racism isn't surprising. Hillary's campaign had support, but the Clintons, being Democrats, couldn't resist the urge to inject race into the campaign, which turned off black voters. It's hard to claim too much reverse racism when Bill Clinton was popularly considered the first black president. Obama didn't get black support until after New Hampshire.

The Democrat party is the party of identity politics and many of the identities are in direct opposition to each other. Republicans put forth a flawed, warmongering, somewhat off-balance candidate because he was their best option by consensus, and he will be our next president. Democrats can't get it together. This is what happens when identity politics is the core platform.

They don't identify with a Harvard graduate? What school did Obama go to, Black-Harvard?

For those of you who have Suicidal Writer on their ignore list, I'd just like to let you all know that, yes, he's here, and he's as crazy as ever.

Suicidal Writer: The Democrat Party is an architect of racism.

Do you want to be taken seriously? If so, here is some advice. Do not cite Ronald Kessler, the chief Washington correspondent of Newsmax.com as an authoritative source.

Weaver95: The idea that someone could despise Hillary for her horrific personality and terrible decisions just never occured to these people, did it?

That's where the racism and sexism are. If she was not a she then they would be seen as positive traits. Only because she is a woman are they negative

Or so the story goes.

Suicidal Writer: The Democrat Party is an architect of racism. Reverse racism isn't surprising. Hillary's campaign had support, but the Clintons, being Democrats, couldn't resist the urge to inject race into the campaign, which turned off black voters. It's hard to claim too much reverse racism when Bill Clinton was popularly considered the first black president. Obama didn't get black support until after New Hampshire.

The Democrat party is the party of identity politics and many of the identities are in direct opposition to each other. Republicans put forth a flawed, warmongering, somewhat off-balance candidate because he was their best option by consensus, and he will be our next president. Democrats can't get it together. This is what happens when identity politics is the core platform.

1/10, dude. Everyone knows who you are at this point:

I give you a one for sticking to your guns.

BritneysSpeculum: Do you want to be taken seriously? If so, here is some advice. Do not cite Ronald Kessler, the chief Washington correspondent of Newsmax.com as an authoritative source.

Thank you, I just read that article and couldn't decide if it was just me who thought it was full of shiat. In addition, NewsMax shouldn't be quoted as an authoritative source, either.

Weaver95: The idea that someone could despise Hillary for her horrific personality and terrible decisions just never occured to these people, did it?

I get what you're saying, and I loathe Hillary as much as the next guy, but I have to admit that a lot of the hostility does seem to have gender elements to it. That is, a lot of the qualities that people are pointing out and calling her out on are things that I suspect would not be quite so decried if they were coming from a male candidate. And you have to admit that there are certainly a lot of criticisms and bashing that focus on her physical appearance.

Suicidal Writer: The Democrat Party is an architect of racism.

From the article you linked...

"The Democrats fight every effort of Republicans to get blacks out of poverty because they know that once blacks become prosperous, the Democratic Party will lose its power base."

This is tin-foil caliber conspiracy theory.

Weaver95: The idea that someone could despise Hillary for her horrific personality and terrible decisions just never occured to these people, did it?

kronicfeld: Weaver95: The idea that someone could despise Hillary for her horrific personality and terrible decisions just never occured to these people, did it?

I get what you're saying, and I loathe Hillary as much as the next guy, but I have to admit that a lot of the hostility does seem to have gender elements to it. That is, a lot of the qualities that people are pointing out and calling her out on are things that I suspect would not be quite so decried if they were coming from a male candidate. And you have to admit that there are certainly a lot of criticisms and bashing that focus on her physical appearance.

You're certainly right on your last point.. bashings like that, in my opinion, pretty much destroy the credibility of the person making those claims-at least in my eyes. Too bad it's still celebrated :(

kronicfeld: And you have to admit that there are certainly a lot of criticisms and bashing that focus on her physical appearance.

Dennis Kucinich feels her pain.

Blues_X: kronicfeld: And you have to admit that there are certainly a lot of criticisms and bashing that focus on her physical appearance.

Dennis Kucinich feels her pain.

Yeah but have you seen that Redhead he's with? OMG, heh :)

I have to agree with Weaver95 here. If Hillary were a man, we'd be criticizing him for going negative 200+ times (versus under 20 for Obama). If Hillary were a man, we'd be criticizing him for trying to twist the rules in MI and FL. If Hillary were a man, we'd be criticizing him for making speeches that sound more like he's running for class treasurer than president of the US. We'd criticize him saying that "hard working white people" are behind him. Geraldine is on another farking planet.

POAC: For those of you who have Suicidal Writer on their ignore list, I'd just like to let you all know that, yes, he's here, and he's as crazy as ever.

Good to know!

/resumes keeping Afternoon_Delight and his bevy of alts on his ignore list.

First, there's no such thing as reverse racism. It's a null set. Racism against whites is still just racism.

Second, who cares what this batshiat crazy vagina-obsessed dried up old biddy thinks anyway? Wasn't she relevant for like 2 months in the 80's? Yeah, your day is done. Go watch some "Murder, She Wrote" and work on your next life goal... dying.

Third, the ONLY ones to inject racism into this campaign have been the Clintons. It's also noteworthy that Clinton is the only candidate to BENEFIT from racism in this election. Well, until McCain faces Obama in the general. He'll get ALL the votes of people who hate blacks... uppity ni... elitists.

kronicfeld: I get what you're saying, and I loathe Hillary as much as the next guy, but I have to admit that a lot of the hostility does seem to have gender elements to it. That is, a lot of the qualities that people are pointing out and calling her out on are things that I suspect would not be quite so decried if they were coming from a male candidate. And you have to admit that there are certainly a lot of criticisms and bashing that focus on her physical appearance.

I agree that a lot of the criticism of Hillary takes on a certain gynophobic flavor. But I also think it is, unfortunately, to be expected, and she is too thin-skinned about it.

Politics is rough, no one respects a whiner, and that's what she is.

Someone more eloquent than me pointed out the outrage coming from her campaign over Hillary nutcrackers being sold in airports. They contrasted that attitude with that of Golda Meir, who would have considered it such a fine tribute she'd have bought a case of them to pass out to her friends.

Also, the claim that Hillary is somehow the victim of racism is just plain silly.

POAC: For those of you who have Suicidal Writer on their ignore list, I'd just like to let you all know that, yes, he's here, and he's as crazy as ever.

And if anyone wasn't thoroughly convince that Suicidal Writer is just trolling, please check here (new window). The line about "ethereal beauty" not being appreciated in its time made me lol.

madmann: It's also noteworthy that Clinton is the only candidate to BENEFIT from racism in this election.

The Karl Rove school of politics:

1. Shamelessly exploit the baser elements of human nature for political gain;

2. Cyncially accuse your opponent -- who is trying to talk about issues -- of exploiting the baser elements of human nature for political gain;

3. Profit!

I think Ferraro needs to find herself a nice comfy room with mattress wallpaper and chill out for awhile.

And I really love how she won't hesitate to label anything and everything as sexist when it comes to Hillary, while claiming you can't even mention Obama's ethnicity for fear of being racist. That's just utter baloney.

She's played all the cards in the gender deck and now she's trying to take cards out of the race deck.

Diogenes: And I really love how she won't hesitate to label anything and everything as sexist when it comes to Hillary, while claiming you can't even mention Obama's ethnicity for fear of being racist. That's just utter baloney.

She's played all the cards in the gender deck and now she's trying to take cards out of the race deck.

Clearly you just hate all white women.

gilgigamesh: Clearly you just hate all white women.

Well, I AM teh ghey after all!

Hillary doesn't have a cankle to stand on.

Weaver95: The idea that someone could despise Hillary for her horrific personality and terrible decisions just never occured to these people, did it?

Reverse racist!

Reggaenomics:

That's not fair. He gets a card but I don't, and I've been on a lot longer.

/I want a Summon Snarfangel card.

Diogenes: Well, I AM teh ghey after all!

Oh fine, play the ghey card, you hater!

Wait, is that a card? I don't even know anymore.

Fritz & Tits in '86 - they were about as relevent then as the hair on my arse is now.

There is always an excuse with the Clintons. It's a conspiracy. It's Bush. It's the media. It's the party bosses. Blah Blah bLah... it just can't be that she sucks as a person and that people see through her coniving egotistical back-stabbing persona.

Then again I'm just the grumpy old man down the street.

/you there... GTFOff my lawn!

gilgigamesh: Diogenes: Well, I AM teh ghey after all!

Oh fine, play the ghey card, you hater!

Wait, is that a card? I don't even know anymore.

It's one of those big ornamental Halmark cards with the lace and ribbon along the boarders, and the inside reads Are you feeling fabulous today?
... or so I hear.

Man, when are whites finally going to get their chance in this country?

Also, I laugh whenever someone suggests I hate Hillary because she's a woman, since I was on staff for a Congresswoman's re-election campaign. As the saying goes, I have no problems with women in power, but I have a big problem with THAT woman in power.

kronicfeld:
I get what you're saying, and I loathe Hillary as much as the next guy, but I have to admit that a lot of the hostility does seem to have gender elements to it. That is, a lot of the qualities that people are pointing out and calling her out on are things that I suspect would not be quite so decried if they were coming from a male candidate. And you have to admit that there are certainly a lot of criticisms and bashing that focus on her physical appearance.

All these "gender elements" seem to be fabricated by the Clinton campaign and her rabid supporters (i.e. Geraldine Ferraro) as an excuse, and they are playing the female victim card for all it's worth in an effort to gain the votes of sympathetic women.

The fact of the matter is that the vast majority of people don't vote against Hillary because she's a woman, they vote against her because they don't trust her, she has an "truth allergy", or they don't agree with her stance on the issues. She has a pattern of lying and exaggerating for political gain and she doesn't think twice about doing it.

Furthermore, she has repeatedly told voters to vote for her simply because she's a woman, so "our daughters will know you can be anything you want to be". When was the last time you heard Obama say "vote for me because I'm black"?

The cold hard truth is that people do not like Hillary because of her actions and what she represents. People are simply sick of it. The problem isn't that she's a woman, the problem is her. There are plenty of woman who would make fantastic presidents. She is not one of them.

reverse racism? isn't that acceptance and equality?
racism is racism. No matter who is prejudicing who.

there are racists of all colors.

If you're white you can't open your mouth without being accused of being racist. They see Obama's playing the race card throughout the campaign and no one calling him for it as frightening.

Ya know, there's a certain amount of truth to that. Looks like some democrats are starting to figure it out.

Weaver95: The idea that someone could despise Hillary for her horrific personality and terrible decisions just never occured to these people, did it?

There it is America - pure evil, straight from the 8th dimension.

Hillary is a Red Lectroid?

Hmmm...

seminole87: But for sucking cock what purpose do Hillary and her Silly Women serve?

As a warning to men of which Women use their teeth.

Car_Ramrod: Also, I laugh whenever someone suggests I hate Hillary because she's a woman, since I was on staff for a Congresswoman's re-election campaign.

But do you see how that works? It's not enough to say you aren't sexist. You have to validate the claim, even though the accuser has no grounds to level such a charge at you. You don't see something wrong with that?

Car_Ramrod: Man, when are whites finally going to get their chance in this country?

Also, I laugh whenever someone suggests I hate Hillary because she's a woman, since I was on staff for a Congresswoman's re-election campaign. As the saying goes, I have no problems with women in power, but I have a big problem with THAT woman in power.

I agree. I have no qualms about voting for a woman. If she can do a better job than a man, I say go for it. However, just because she may be the first (or most well-known), that doesn't make her the best.


To pull a card of my own, I'm tired of the Homer Simpson stereotype: Take any commercial on TV for example: A middle-aged, stupid white man that can't don anything right is usually shown. If it was a bumbling black guy, they'd cry racist. If it was a ditzy blond, they'd cry sexist. Whena re white men going to be protected from ridicule?

I'd also like to complain that Suicidal Writer has left, though he didn't try very hard this time.

Weaver95: There it is America - pure evil, straight from the 8th dimension.

There is NO reason to bring Buckaroo Bonzai into this.

GoldSpider: Ya know, there's a certain amount of truth to that. Looks like some democrats are starting to figure it out.

and just in time for obama to sort of almost win the majority of delegates that kinda count!

drjekel_mrhyde: //Black

That explains why you misspelled "Jekyll".


"I'm SUCH a devil!"

The Democrat Party is an architect of broccoli. Reverse broccoli isn't surprising. Hillary's campaign had support, but the Clintons, being Democrats, couldn't resist the urge to inject broccoli into the campaign, which turned off broccoli voters. It's hard to claim too much reverse broccoli when Bill Clinton was popularly considered the first broccoli president. Obama didn't get broccoli support until after New Hampshire.

The Democrat party is the party of identity politics and many of the identities are in direct opposition to each other. Republicans put forth a flawed, warmongering, somewhat off-balance candidate because he was their best option by consensus, and he will be our next president. Democrats can't get it together. This is what happens when identity politics is the core platform.

drjekel_mrhyde: Racism? Blacks vote damn near 100% dem no matter who is running

well, why not? after all, the democrats have done so much for them.

/snarf

kronicfeld: I get what you're saying, and I loathe Hillary as much as the next guy, but I have to admit that a lot of the hostility does seem to have gender elements to it.

I completely agree. I have disliked Hillary for a long time, for reasons that have nothing to do with her plumbing, but too much of the opposition to her candidacy has been expressed in a misogynistic manner. Not only is that wrong, it's counterproductive.

A good friend of mine is a Hillary supporter. She's one of the most thoughtful, best educated, and least hysterical people I know. Her support for Hillary began as a purely policy-based decision, but has over time become more an emotional response. Every time she hears someone call Clinton a b***h, or comment on her fat ass, it reminds my friend of times that she has been similarly belittled. She recognizes that her response is purely emotional, and that it is unfair to allow it to reflect on Obama, but on some level she can't help herself.

The fact is, most people make political decisions at least in part on the basis of such emotional responses. Those of us who support Obama's candidacy and really want to see him win should be mindful of that fact.

Dear Geraldine,
Please just go away...
Please.

but wait! I thought Obama has this wrapped up, AND the general! what are you fanboys so afraid of?

/Sarcasim on
Geraldine Ferraro just needs a good man to bend her over and give her a good hard farking. Then she'll be all aglowin and satisfied.
/Sarcasim off


If you are a supporter of Hillary, the only explination can be that sexsim is reason. She's edjucated, tough and experienced. They can't understand why anyone wouldn't vote for her.

Same way with us Obama supporters. We minimise his faults. The apparent ignorance of his pastors message, and his inexperience playing the big time game have made some people think he's an well meaning idiot at best and a liar at worse. Some just see a well edjucated, self made, articulate man trying to bridge the gaps in America.

How often do my fellow Obama supports immediately jump on the "racism" bandwagon?

They see Obama's playing the race card throughout the campaign and no one calling him for it as frightening. They're not upset with Obama because he's black; they're upset because they don't expect to be treated fairly because they're white. It's not racism that is driving them, it's racial resentment. And that is enforced because they don't believe he understands them and their problems.

Racial resentment? WTF? If anyone should be resentful because of race issues, white people are at the very end of that list.

Either:

(a) She doesn't know what good for her or good for anyone,

or

(b) She's just setting herself up to make a lot of money selling a book to white people.

Every single one of these old crones can't get over the fundamental fact that maybe, just maybe, the electorate had other ideas regarding Hillary's coronation. If Hillary had run even a mediocre campaign, she'd be the nominee. As it is, Barack had to be near perfect and she had to be shiatty, and she obliged. All her supporters are like numbers be damned, they should give it to her anyways because it's her turn. They are amazed the media called her on her BS, and appalled that people dared not to vote for her. And apparently the states Obama won don't really matter. To Ferraro and her ilk, I say: DIAF

/kthxbai