More lies by the left.

No?

Well, then. He's just a disgruntled employee saying bad things to get back.

This will never stick.

So... how long does impeachment take again?

McClellan said Bush authorized leaking of declassified information -- information in the National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq, that Bush himself declassified so it could be leaked -- not Plame's identity.

Unless I'm reading it wrong.

Not that this is a good thing. Just never assume the Fark headline represents what's actually in the linked story.

"I have a higher loyalty than my loyalty necessarily to my past work," McClellan explained. "That's a loyalty to the truth and it's a loyalty to the values I was raised on. I talk about my upbringing in a political family that talked about the nobility of public service and the importance of speaking up and talking about making a positive difference. I hope that this book will help do that."


i wish more dittoheads would remember that.

tallguywithglasseson: McClellan said Bush authorized leaking of declassified information -- information in the National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq, that Bush himself declassified so it could be leaked -- not Plame's identity.

Unless I'm reading it wrong.

If you do a little reading into the matter there is a case to be made that this is what he did, in fact, do.

Gee, he wouldn't be trying to sell books or anything, would he??
Good job at selling out, douchebag.
But, he wouldn't be the first McClellan to try (and fail) at back-stabbing a President.

I wonder if he's related to George.

Skleenar: If you do a little reading into the matter there is a case to be made that this is what he did, in fact, do.

Not a very good case, IMO. I don't doubt Bush would do it. I wouldn't be surprised if Bush did do it. But I don't think McClellan has said he did, and I don't think there's any other compelling evidence that he did. This (from your link):

Now, though Scottie refers, obliquely, to "this information," he explicitly refers only to the NIE. But as I've described over and over again, it's not just the NIE Bush authorized Dick to order Libby to leak

...

In short, Libby is almost certainly lying about what he was authorized to leak to Judy on July 8, 2003, in a meeting where Judy Miller admits he talked about Valerie Plame, and where Libby tried to get her to falsely attribute the story

...

At this point, Scottie McC is still accepting Scooter Libby's lies, though I suspect he sees the dangerous frailty of them.

from the blogger "emptywheel", doesn't even really back up said blogger's headline of "George Bush Authorized the Leak of Valerie Wilson's Identity". It's only slightly more than bare assertion.

And emptywheel's blog really doesn't back up that McClellan is claiming Bush authorized the Plame leak at all. The blogger is basically taking a premise they were already running with and trying to somehow use this to add weight to it, and not very well IMO.

ndotseth: Gee, he wouldn't be trying to sell books or anything, would he??
Good job at selling out, douchebag.

It is entirely possible that this man is both being a douchebag and being largely truthful in these revelations.

tallguywithglasseson: Not a very good case, IMO.

I would concur that it seems to hinge upon what is likely to have been approved leaked in that meeting about the NIE.

But the history of the events indicate that these two pieces of information were tied closely in the WH's response to the Wilson allegations. This indicates to me that this is a reasonable question to investigate.

Skleenar: It is entirely possible that this man is both being a douchebag and being largely truthful in these revelations.

Dr Ray Stantz: Everything was fine with our system until the power grid was shut off by dickless here.
Walter Peck: They caused an explosion!
Mayor: Is this true?
Dr. Peter Venkman: Yes it's true.
[pause]
Dr. Peter Venkman: This man has no dick.

I'm kinda surprised that the Administration's staff members don't have to sign some kind of confidentiality agreement to prevent this type of thing.

Skleenar: ndotseth: Gee, he wouldn't be trying to sell books or anything, would he??
Good job at selling out, douchebag.

It is entirely possible that this man is both being a douchebag and being largely truthful in these revelations.

I agree, but unless I badly misunderstand how the Press Secretary's job works, I think it would be unlikely for him to know what he is claiming to know, unless he came by the info second hand. I'd bet on him being right, but my understanding is that he would have been excluded from some of the meetings at which these decisions would have been made.

Also, I find his appeal to the political virtues of his family pretty amusing. His mom is not exactly well regarded on that issue.

He had his chance to make a difference when he was The Face of Lies for five years. Coming forward after he's no longer involved and claiming he's doing it out of some "greater loyalty to the truth" is a huge farking cop-out. He's as guilty as the rest of those traitors.

/hang em high
//all of em

Skleenar: ndotseth: Gee, he wouldn't be trying to sell books or anything, would he??
Good job at selling out, douchebag.

It is entirely possible that this man is both being a douchebag and being largely truthful in these revelations.

oh, it's a given that he's a douchebag. we have it on tape.

burndtdan: "I have a higher loyalty than my loyalty necessarily to my past work," McClellan explained. "That's a loyalty to the truth and it's a loyalty to the values I was raised on. I talk about my upbringing in a political family that talked about the nobility of public service and the importance of speaking up and talking about making a positive difference. I hope that this book will help do that."


i wish more dittoheads would remember that.

I wish they would remember it in the first place.

A bush guy, Ari something or other actually made sense on Fox. "If you didn't believe in the job-if your heart wasn't behind the administration-then he should have never taken the job."

Notice there was no denial.

tallguywithglasseson: Not that this is a good thing. Just never assume the Fark headline represents what's actually in the linked story.

What? You mean there's more to the story than the headline?
Surely, sir, you must be either making a bad attempt at comedy or a very terrible liar.
Please, do not waste our valuable time with your petty indulgences.

*cough* AHEM *cough*

IMPEACH BUSH!!!! Drag him through the streets and BURRRRRRRN HIM!!!!!!

Scott McClellan continues dancing on Bush's political grave by reporting that the President authorized the leak of a covert CIA agent's identity

He's a lame duck. seriously. two term president.

don't be a dumbass, subby.

filth: Also, I find his appeal to the political virtues of his family pretty amusing. His mom is not exactly well regarded on that issue.

I think that the constant attacks against people who break with the administration is not giving the impression that the Bush defenders are trying to give.

What is happening is that we as a nation are beginning to get the idea that it isn't safe to trust anyone who was ever hired by GWB.

That is not something that reflects well upon the credibility or ethics of the people who hired them.

I'm sorry, but this is like finding a $10 bill in your couch cushions while your house is burning down around you.

So I guess that whole investigation by Patrick Fitzgerald that proved exactly who leaked what and when.. And it wasn't the Bush administration... meant nothing.

Of course it meant nothing, it didn't give liberals what they wanted.

The president has full authority to do this. If he hadn't retaliate against Plame's husband, there would have been more people trying to expose the WMD truth.

That's unacceptable

Skleenar: What is happening is that we as a nation are beginning to get the idea that it isn't safe to trust anyone who was ever hired by GWB is in the Government

FTFY

I used to work a pizza place. Don't go there. We spit in the food.

submitter is flat out, 100% wrong, and didn't read the article submitted.

This issue has been rehashed hundreds of times. There were two leaks. One was the National Intelligence Estimate. Another was Plame's identity getting leaked to the media. The Bush Administration has always acknowledged they "leaked" the first one. They used the argument that as the Executive Branch, they are entitled to declassify information. Some people complained, but the issue died very quickly.

The second leak has always been the scandal. This is where Plame's identity was leaked. Libby was rightly found guilty for being a lying turd and should have served prison time. (Though he wasn't convicted of leaking Plame's name, but rather for telling all sorts of lies about his recollection of events). Nobody else was prosecuted for leaking Plame's identity.

This whole two leak business is old news.

The headline doesn't match the story.

Keep that proud tradition alive, subby.

randomjsa: So I guess that whole investigation by Patrick Fitzgerald that proved exactly who leaked what and when.. And it wasn't the Bush administration... meant nothing.

Of course it meant nothing, it didn't give liberals what they wanted.

What Fitzpatrick's investigation showed is that Scooter impeded justice. It came to no conclusions at all about who authorized the leaks. Only who lied about it.

/ Please try again.

McClellan on Countdown tonight will be a must see...

PC LOAD LETTER: More lies by the left.

No?

Well, then. He's just a disgruntled employee saying bad things to get back.

He's an opportunistic scumbag getting his truckload of cash and 15 mins in the spotlight

Rent Party: It came to no conclusions at all about who authorized the leaks.

It came to no conclusions that the Plame leak was even authorized. We do know that Richard Armitage leaked first to Bob Woodward, and apparently did so accidentally. It seems by the time that lots of people in the Bush Administration were freely talking about Plame's identity sometimes without realizing her covert status. (Which seems to be how Armitage screwed up when he let it slip a bunch).

But a second unrelated leak occurred elsewhere. That's the unknown which Fitzgerald felt he couldn't conclude the investigation. Everything from here is speculation and guessing games.

For anyone that thought for a second Bush or Cheney were not involved in the Plame incident is:
1. a moron
2. a loyalist who will serve their overlord no matter what
3. both a and 2

rcain: Skleenar: What is happening is that we as a nation are beginning to get the idea that it isn't safe to trust anyone who was ever hired by GWB is in the Government by Richard Nixon.

I think this would be a good place to start.

Yes, it was Richard Armitage who was the leaker and that was confirmed by the special council. Scott McClellan is a moron for not adjusting his book to reflect this. You can't leak something that has already been leaked.

Well, surely you agree that Iraq is better off with Saddam Hussein gone...

234 days to go until this popsicle stand that is the Bush Administration is gone forever.

I hope Obama wins, but I'd take anyone else at this point.

/sits down

soy_bomb: Yes, it was Richard Armitage who was the leaker and that was confirmed by the special council. Scott McClellan is a moron for not adjusting his book to reflect this. You can't leak something that has already been leaked.

And who told Armitage?

randomjsa: So I guess that whole investigation by Patrick Fitzgerald that proved exactly who leaked what and when.. And it wasn't the Bush administration... meant nothing.

Of course it meant nothing, it didn't give liberals what they wanted.

I believe Fitzgerald said we'd never really know since Libby derailed the investigation by, you know, perjury and finally gave up. Meh. Why bother with you...you're just a drive-by partisan hack from what I've seen.

A flame worth headline that Karl Rove would be proud of, on my Fark. No way.

soy_bomb: Yes, it was Richard Armitage who was the leaker and that was confirmed by the special council. Scott McClellan is a moron for not adjusting his book to reflect this. You can't leak something that has already been leaked.

Only the first leak... not the second.

I can't believe people don't bring up the fact there was likely a two-year gag order on him.

Also, just because a book is out two years later doesn't mean he should be discredited for it. Guilt can take some time to eat at you before you spill the beans.

/Good old Catholic guilt

As with anything, McCellan's info is food for thought.

But nothing will be done with it.
GW will go down in history as whatever, likely inconsequential.

If Obama wins, some things will change.
If McCain wins, not as much will change.

One thing I've seen, its rare to have change overnight,
it ususally takes years, if not decades.
Politicians lack of spine take care of that.

Only if the powers that be are aggressive, will actions be taken.
And I doubt to see that in a McCain administration.
And Democrats traditionally aren't that aggressive.

GW's adminstration was aggressive, and look where that got them.
Pushin' it just pushes back.
Slow and easy, that's how the govt works.

McClellan is just like Stephanopolis...disenchanted
and like most press secretaries...likes to expound after the fact.

I'm disgruntled with my job because my boss is a lying sack of poo, so I'm really getting a kick out of these replies.

soy_bomb: the leaker

I am amazed by this story everytime it rears its ugly head. Bush himself claiming that they will find the leak and deal with that person only to turn around later and say "oh it was me who declassified the NIE, just forgot to tell y'all!". How does Armitage get access to a covert CIA agent's identity in the first place?

So many wrongs by this administration and yet we can't get Congress to do anything. fark, they can't even make these schlubs testify in front of them. Spineless wonders all around D.C.

McClellan's book was ghost written by a George Soros stooge. McClellan was in it just for the money. What a lame-o!

what, the obvious tag out to dinner?

Did Fitzpatrick never subpoena McClellan?

Soup4Bonnie:

So many wrongs by this administration and yet we can't get Congress to do anything. fark, they can't even make these schlubs testify in front of them. Spineless wonders all around D.C.

But the real question is...

ARE THEY WEARING THEIR AMERICAN FLAG LAPEL PINS?!?!?!? If so, I'm confident that our economic, political, and social ills will all be taken care of in due time.

"I prefer magnetic "Support the Troops" ribbons on my Escalade. Real stickers drive down the value of the vehicle."

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Farque Ewe: McClellan's book was ghost written by a George Soros stooge. McClellan was in it just for the money. What a lame-o!

You got facts to back that up with, or is that just a load of crap-o you pulled out of your ass-o, dave-o?

/dave-o? u serious?

rcain: You got facts to back that up with, or is that just a load of crap-o you pulled out of your ass-o, dave-o?

He is just harping on the fact that George Soros owns the publisher, Perseus Books/PublicAffairs. The editor is Peter Osnos who has numerous anti-Bush publications published by Soros print houses. Nothing to see here.