He should check with Saint Ronnie about that.

Have Nancy check with her astrologer.

I like Libertarianism and I don't like Ron Paul or Hucakbee.

In an effort to make the internets explode, Hucakbee decries libertarianism as "heartless, callous, soulless type of economic conservatism" that neo-conservatism and the injection of religion into politics poses "the greatest threat to classic Republicanism"

FTFY, Huck.

This certainly isn't a bookmark post to enjoy the thread later with pretzels in hand (I don't like popcorn.

Considering that Huckabee is a moron, this is a pretty good endorsement of Libertarianism...

libertarianismRepublicanism as "heartless, callous, soulless type of economic conservatism" that poses "the greatest threat to classic Republicanismlibertarianism"

FTFY

That's funny. I feel the same way about Mike Huckabee.

Huckabee can go take a flying fark at a rolling donut.

You really don't *want* to be VP, do you?

Thank you, Mike. I'm glad someone finally said it.

Direct link to interview: Here (new window)

that's because huckabee is an idiot when it comes to politics.

stick to the pulpit, mike.

Libertarianism needs to do more to separate itself from the Objectivist crazies.

Hucakbee decries libertarianism as "heartless, callous, soulless type of economic conservatism" that poses "the greatest threat to classic Republicanism enjoying the privileges of being powerful in Washington"

Think about 1994 and 2006 for a minute, Huck.

Why are people so obsessed with parties? With information for the masses at the fingertips, I don't see the need anymore.

Libertarianism is at its heart a political theory based on the philosophy of Objectivism. Both of which are nothing but invalid justifications for selfish behavior.

While we're on the subject of Objectivism, I'd just like to state that everyone who's ever read Atlas Shrugged and agrees with any part of it should read Upton Sinclair's The Jungle.

Holy crap! Doesn't he know he'll invoke Ron Paul? Why doesn't he just say, "Bloody Mary" in front of a mirror three times?

TheCid: I'd just like to state that everyone who's ever read Atlas Shrugged and agrees with any part of it should read Upton Sinclair's The Jungle.

Mmmmmm...hot dogs

It's a weird thing where the Republicans are obsessed with undoing everything FDR did just to prove it was untenable to begin with.

/not saying it's logical, it's just their strategy

Diogenes: Holy crap! Doesn't he know he'll invoke Ron Paul? Why doesn't he just say, "Bloody MaryBiggie Smalls" in front of a mirror three times?

Yeah, because "compassionate conservatism" really served the country well.

Code_Archeologist: Libertarianism is at its heart a political theory based on the philosophy of Objectivism. Both of which are nothing but invalid justifications for selfish behavior.



American libertarian thinkers such as Lysander Spooner and Albert Jay Nock predate Rand by at least 80 years, more if you go back to the "classical liberalism" roots of the libertarian tree (John Locke and Adam Smith).

/Rand had some good ideas, but she was also nuttier than a constipated chipmunk

Code_Archeologist: Libertarianism is at its heart a political theory based on the philosophy of Objectivism. Both of which are nothing but invalid justifications for selfish behavior.

Of all the definitions of Libertarianism that have been thrown out on the Internets. That has got to be the one that I most agree with.

I find that people who describe themselves as Libertarians are often just greedy self-interested douchebags.

/most certainly not a Libertarian

Nabb1: Huckabee can go take a flying fark at a rolling donut.

mmm, donuts.

TheCid: While we're on the subject of Objectivism, I'd just like to state that everyone who's ever read Atlas Shrugged and agrees with any part of it should read Upton Sinclair's The Jungle.

I think they should read Henry George's Progress and Poverty.

_{/Even if they aren't objectivists.}

Is there an actual Objectivist in the house?

Snarfangel: TheCid: While we're on the subject of Objectivism, I'd just like to state that everyone who's ever read Atlas Shrugged and agrees with any part of it should read Upton Sinclair's The Jungle.

I think they should read Henry George's Progress and Poverty.

i think they should read the bible

/farking heathens

MasterThief: Yeah, because "compassionate conservatism" really served the country well.

Uh.. Depends. Describe how Bush acted either compassionate or conservative.

/Pardonning Thanksgiving Turkey doesn't count.

Not pleased:

Code_Archeologist: Libertarianism is at its heart a political theory based on the philosophy of Objectivism. Both of which are nothing but invalid justifications for selfish behavior.

If you call pacifism, non-coersion, letting adults make any kind of agreements they like as long as no one is coerced an invalid justification for selfish behavior, I'm all for it.

Remember, only you can prevent narcissism....

Anyone who doesn't spend their money the way I think they should is selfish.

/and possibly evil.

Wait, who's "Hucakbee"?

I'm on a greenlight tear right now

Unright: Wait, who's "Hucakbee"?

Who indeed?

In an effort to make the Internets explode, Hucakbee decries libertarianism as "heartless, callous, soulless type of economic conservatism"

Because it doesn't give a flea's fart about abortion, drugs or gay marriage.

catfight!

I think we can all agree argue that Libertarianism is more or less crap and their party is full of crazy Objectivists these days. True. However I believe most of us can agree they're much better than the modern Republican party. First of all becuase they're just as idiotic about deregulation but nowhere near as concerned about what goes on in our bedrooms. Secondly becuase, as we've seen, nobody's going to vote for them anyways.

Let them raise the level of discourse a bit and weed out the crazy and maybe our country will be better off.

/What happened to you Huckabee?
//You used to be humorous in your crazy

Code_Archeologist: Libertarianism is at its heart a political theory based on the philosophy of Objectivism. Both of which are nothing but invalid justifications for selfish behavior.

as a small-l libertarian who agrees strongly with many of ayn rand's philosophical tenets and also co-founded a non-profit corporation with public charity status, I think maybe you don't fully understand either the definition of selfish behavior, objectivism, or libertarianism.

TheCid: While we're on the subject of Objectivism, I'd just like to state that everyone who's ever read Atlas Shrugged and agrees with any part of it should read Upton Sinclair's The Jungle.

Let's not forget Bob's input:
(^)

I'm no libertarian, but this is up there on the list of "Dumbest Shiat Huckabee Has Ever Said." Yes, stressing individual choice and a "get the government out of my life" mindset is really heartless, callous and soulless. Even moreso than attempting to throw the book at gay marriage and homosexuality in general, denying millions life-saving treatment through stem cell research, denying health insurance for children, etc, etc, etc.

Huckabee's Nanny Government: We Control Because We Care.

It's sort of interesting that some Republicans are feeling the need to attack libertarianism by name. Some other guy was doing it a couple of weeks ago. Rather stupid of them- they should be doing everything they can to convince Ron Paul not to help Barr.

I was fiddling around with an Electoral College calculator the other day and I found something interesting. In a perfectly plausible scenario for a close Obama/McCain race- same as 2004 except Obama wins Ohio and McCain wins New Hampshire- all Barr would have to do is win a single Bush 2004 state to cost McCain the Presidency by sending the election to the House. Which he might be able to do if he's smart and focuses heavily on the Mountain West (and Alaska)- states that have strong libertarian streaks and where third parties do well. The LP even got 11% once in Alaska.

I think in reality, Obama will be a lot farther ahead of McCain than that, but it's still a fun thought exercise.

TheCid: Upton Sinclair's The Jungle

There are a number of intelligent books that could be used as a counterpoint to Atlas Shrugged. You could do better than to suggest one that was a more or less admitted fraud.

Wow. Huckabee actually said something I agreed with.

The End of the World must be getting near.

RocketVat: as a small-l libertarian who agrees strongly with many of ayn rand's philosophical tenets and also co-founded a non-profit corporation with public charity status, I think maybe you don't fully understand either the definition of selfish behavior, objectivism, or libertarianism.

Ah; so, would you be inclined to expound your understanding of the Objectivist position?

Why does everyone always focus on the ecnomic part of libertarians and ignore that whole pesky personal freedom thingy?

No Huckabee, evangelical Republicanism that you constantly throw in our faces is "heartless, callous, soulless" and is "the greatest threat to classic Republicanism". If the Republican Party I belong to had to chose between the libertarian nutcases and the religious fundies, I'll take the former.

Lolz at every shiatty facet of your shiatty, shiatty party.

Churchill2004: There are a number of intelligent books that could be used as a counterpoint to Atlas Shrugged. You could do better than to suggest one that was a more or less admitted fraud.

Okay.

Fast Food Nation.

An extremely even-handed book.

You don't like Rand, right, Churchill?

helix400: No Huckabee, evangelical Republicanism that you constantly throw in our faces is "heartless, callous, soulless" and is "the greatest threat to classic Republicanism". If the Republican Party I belong to had to chose between the libertarian nutcases and the religious fundies, I'll take the former.

So long as those libertarian nutcases understand that the states need to provide social programs if the feds won't do it.

Obdicut: You don't like Rand, right, Churchill?

And the Pope is a Jew.